Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[Greg N'Ash]

they build their reputations at small clubs looking to survive, they make a success of it and join clubs like us. We don't skip that part and give them the job before they've done anything. Or we didn't/

[N'Zimidy]

The media and betting shops know nothing. They make things up, change the odds, people go wild, people bet and they buy papers. It's really, really disappointing to see people on here fall to believing this sort of drivel. McLeish and Grayson? You're having a laugh.

General's post has made it clear that we're not interested in hiring any old manager. We're interviewing and discussing with a range of managers over a period of time, then making decisions on who we should offer the job to.

This isn't a small, uninterested club like Fulham. Randy isn't going to pick any old name and have them in as manager two days later (like Fulham and Jol). He's got a range of names, no doubt Rafa, Moyes, Ancelotti, Van Gaal and many others have been contacted and told to release nothing to the media and they won't release anything to the media either.

Whelan has so far been the only person to blabber about Villa's dealings and it sent the media wild with claims of us hiring a small, cheap and inexperienced manager. It's blatantly clear that we're interviewing a range of candidates in the hope to bring the perfect manager to Villa.

I have complete faith in Randy and we will see a great manager come to Villa for next season, I'm sure of it.

[Toronto Villa]

they build their reputations at small clubs looking to survive, they make a success of it and join clubs like us. We don't skip that part and give them the job before they've done anything. Or we didn't/

people rave about David Moyes. What had he achieved at the top level when Everton gave him his big chance? What had Brian Little done at the top level before he got his big chance with us? What had Graham Taylor done at the top level when we came calling for him? Alex Ferguson had won less trophies in little old Scotland than MON when he joined Man U. Yes, having significant credentials helps a lot. Let's not be silly about this. But it needs to be mix of attributes that align also with the the status of the club at the time, what it can provide and achieve right now, and what it ultimately wants to achieve.

[Sexual Ealing]

they build their reputations at small clubs looking to survive, they make a success of it and join clubs like us. We don't skip that part and give them the job before they've done anything. Or we didn't/

 What had Graham Taylor done at the top level when we came calling for him?

Got Watford (WATFORD) to 2nd in the league and to an FA Cup final.

[Brian Taylor]

Nobody wants the job and that is what we'll get, a nobody, unless Randy proves us wrong next week!

[Stu]

they build their reputations at small clubs looking to survive, they make a success of it and join clubs like us. We don't skip that part and give them the job before they've done anything. Or we didn't/

 What had Graham Taylor done at the top level when we came calling for him?

Got Watford (WATFORD) to 2nd in the league and to an FA Cup final.

Yep. Promotions from the 4th division to the 1st in five seasons was pretty good as well I reckon.

[Stu]

Nobody wants the job and that is what we'll get, a nobody, unless Randy proves us wrong next week!

Don't believe what you read in the papers, they know fuck all and are proving it with one opinion based/speculative piece after another.

[Toronto Villa]

they build their reputations at small clubs looking to survive, they make a success of it and join clubs like us. We don't skip that part and give them the job before they've done anything. Or we didn't/

 What had Graham Taylor done at the top level when we came calling for him?

Got Watford (WATFORD) to 2nd in the league and to an FA Cup final.

what had he won at the top level? Yes, those achievements and his promotions are very impressive, and I'm not trying to downplay something like that, but his accomplishents weren't the only reason he got the job with us. He was seen as a very astute young manager in the game just waiting for a bigger opportunity that we provided.

[Greg N'Ash]

Seriously, Graham Taylor hadn't made a success of Watford??!! Ferguson had broken the old firm stranglehold during his time in scotland and won the UEFA cup. Moyes got preston promoted and lost in the championship play-offs - unproven, but some record behind him.  Little i'll give you.

[Toronto Villa]

Seriously, Graham Taylor hadn't made a success of Watford??!! Ferguson had broken the old firm stranglehold during his time in scotland and won the UEFA cup. Moyes got preston promoted and lost in the championship play-offs - unproven, but some record behind him.  Little i'll give you.

Off course Graham Taylor was a success, but everything was in the lower leagues. Does that qualify somebody automatically for top flight job? It does if someone thinks you could possibly transfer that ability. Alex Ferguson was a success, but did those two accomplishments qualify him automatically for arguably one of Britain's biggest club sides at the time. Man U thought so. I bet had the internet existed back then, there would have been lots of Man U supporters screaming that he wasn't big enough for them. How wrong they would have been.

[dave.woodhall]

Alex Ferguson had made Aberdeen one of the best teams in Europe.

[Greg N'Ash]

You misunderstand me Toronto, I've no problem with Villa employing a manager with no honours at the top level, but i'd ideally like them to have had some success at a reasonable level. The only guy we know we've approached is Martinez who hasn't even been a success at his current club

[Toronto Villa]

You misunderstand me Toronto, I've no problem with Villa employing a manager with no honours at the top level, but i'd ideally like them to have had some success at a reasonable level. The only guy we know we've approached is Martinez who hasn't even been a success at his current club

the only guy who we know that is currently employed who's chairman decided to reveal it the world for his won benefit you mean? As I've said already, it would be very much preferable that the new manager of Villa has actually won things in his career. But it is one important factor amongst many. If winning was important then Steve McClaren should be regarding much higher than Mark Hughes or Moyes, irrespective of whether he is a plonker or not.

[Toronto Villa]

Alex Ferguson had made Aberdeen one of the best teams in Europe.

I don't disagree Dave, but could that be done today when money has just gone mental, and smaller teams could hold their own and even overachieve. You'd be hard pressed to do that now. I'm not dismissing what Ferguson did up there, but it was a different era.

[Sexual Ealing]

they build their reputations at small clubs looking to survive, they make a success of it and join clubs like us. We don't skip that part and give them the job before they've done anything. Or we didn't/

 What had Graham Taylor done at the top level when we came calling for him?

Got Watford (WATFORD) to 2nd in the league and to an FA Cup final.

what had he won at the top level? Yes, those achievements and his promotions are very impressive, and I'm not trying to downplay something like that, but his accomplishents weren't the only reason he got the job with us. He was seen as a very astute young manager in the game just waiting for a bigger opportunity that we provided.

You've changed 'done' for 'won'.

Changing the proposition of an argument means that a new argument is needed because the proposer has accepted defeat in respect of the original proposition.

All the birds fancy me.