Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[PeterWithe]

Karl- he's done nothing of note in those years, if were a bit short why not give either of our own a shout. I stil reckon its a smokescreen and he's not in the frame

[hawkeye]

Some people have missed the point, we are not in the position where we can bring in a big name to spend a 100 million in the hope that it delivers the promissed land, we have to try to do this another way. Martinez does not have the best record but he is young bright and could build on what we have, its a gamble but a better and frsher approach to bringing in someone in to hold the fort whilst he works on his next appointment.

Well that depends on how you sell the Club and the position isn't it.

Big Club, strong fanbase, good players already here that have underperformed, great batch of young players coming through, great training set up, hugely supportive Chariman, some decent cash to spend.  In short, opportunity to build a legacy at a Club that has everything in place bar the leader.

You'd think these opportunities don't come around that often - It's certainly one i'd be selling to the Van Gaal's of thos world before I'd be speaking to the Martinez's.

So far we have discounted Ancelloti, Benitez and Hughes. What makes you think that the "giants" of the game think the way you do. It looks like we are struggling to attract our 4th placed target.

[Risso]

It's certainly one i'd be selling to the Van Gaal's of thos world before I'd be speaking to the Martinez's.

Prem experience is a pre-requisite, that is out there already. We have supposedly approached bigger names than Martinez and been knocked back, he is not the first fucking choice that lots of people keep making out.

Sounds like he's the highest placed manager who hasn't turned us down.  Great.

[Eigentor]

Some people have missed the point, we are not in the position where we can bring in a big name to spend a 100 million in the hope that it delivers the promissed land, we have to try to do this another way. Martinez does not have the best record but he is young bright and could build on what we have, its a gamble but a better and frsher approach to bringing in someone in to hold the fort whilst he works on his next appointment.

If Martinez is the excellent prospect that some claims that he is, how can we know that we're not just a stepping stone on his path to Chelsea, Inter or Real Madrid?

You couldnt appoint anyone based on thinking that. In fact we might as well all give up and let the top 4 compete in a mini league!

Sorry, the point I was trying to make was: is there any reason to believe that Martinez (if appointed) will be more loyal than Ancelotti, Benitez or Moyes would?

[holtepaul]

Well I am , and my first team I rememerb was Burridge, Phillips and co.

Which is why I am so utterly pissed off - coz apart from the appointment of Graham Turner (and we all know how that one turned out) I think this is the most uninspiring appointment in my lifetime.

When Randy took over, I didnt expect overnight success, I didn't think we would conquer the world, but I certainly thought the days of "I don't care where we finish as long as we stay in the top division and post a profit" were over.

And it seems to me (again, cover myself in case this is all bull) I was hoodwinked.

Shit - I hated Ellis but even I am starting to think we were better off with him.

Remember the outcry when Yorke left us for Man U - it was like the worst crime ever.

Now - it's a yearly occurance !

Imagine what would have been happening now if Ellis was here, our biggest player sold, our goalkeeper gone, our player of the season rumoured to be going, and our forward already making noises he will have to think about his future 6 months after joining - and then he hires a manager like we are thinking of.

There would have been mass protests in Aston Park !!

[mazrimsbruv]

By the way, is this not a record-breaking thread? More than 20 pages a day.

Record breaking?

This thread is fucking insane!!

Every time you log on it's like staring at a merry-go-round spinning at near light-speed.

You think: "Shall I get on? Shall I not? It could be mental fun or it could be fuck-off scary and I might not be able to get off until it spits me out sometime in October!"

[Karl Bridges]

Sounds like he's the highest placed manager who hasn't turned us down.

Yet.

[PeterWithe]

The thing is financially we are still on the top 20 clubs in europe, does that not make us attractive to managers who have done more than jammily keep wigan in the top flight?

[hawkeye]

Loyalty does not exist in football

[Karl Bridges]

Well I am , and my first team I rememerb was Burridge, Phillips and co.

Which is why I am so utterly pissed off - coz apart from the appointment of Graham Turner (and we all know how that one turned out) I think this is the most uninspiring appointment in my lifetime.

When Randy took over, I didnt expect overnight success, I didn't think we would conquer the world, but I certainly thought the days of "I don't care where we finish as long as we stay in the top division and post a profit" were over.

And it seems to me (again, cover myself in case this is all bull) I was hoodwinked.

Shit - I hated Ellis but even I am starting to think we were better off with him.

Remember the outcry when Yorke left us for Man U - it was like the worst crime ever.

Now - it's a yearly occurance !

Imagine what would have been happening now if Ellis was here, our biggest player sold, our goalkeeper gone, our player of the season rumoured to be going, and our forward already making noises he will have to think about his future 6 months after joining - and then he hires a manager like we are thinking of.

There would have been mass protests in Aston Park !!

I tell you what he's sunk a lot more money in than your season ticket was going to cost.

[Sexual Ealing]

The thing is financially we are still on the top 20 clubs in europe, does that not make us attractive to managers who have done more than jammily keep wigan in the top flight?

Not if all the money's been spent.

[Eigentor]

Loyalty does not exist in football

Yet you argue that we should go for Martinez because he'll stick around and build on what we have got, whereas other candidates may do the job half-heartedly while keeping an eye out for vacancies at supposedly bigger clubs.

[Jockey Randall]

Mat Kendrick just been on WM also seems pretty convinced that it is going to be Martinez.  Also claims that Martinez has cut short his carribean holiday to return to the UK to talk to villa which he used as more evidence to support his belief that its more than just a chat with Villa.  Whelan had earlier said that Martinez had returned from his holiday but not that he had cut short his holiday to return to the UK.

Kendrick is now saying that interview was a pre-record and has since heard Martinez still hangs in the balance.

[holtepaul]

hey, whilst on the bog I've just had a thought - maybe it is just false hope, but whilst there is some hope - I will believe.

MM said we were waiting for someone to get back from Holiday It now seems Martinez was that guy as he has flew back from the Caribbean.

However, he didn't say we were appointing the guy we were waiting for. Whelan said Villa contacted them 9 days ago and thats when he gave them permission. RM was on hols, but Villa said, don't worry, coz Randy isn;t coming in until Monday anyway , so we will interview when he returns.

in the meantime, we have already spoken to all the others, if we wrote to Whelan 9 days ago, surely we would be speaking to out of work managers then, and sending letters to employed managers.

So , by Tuesday, we'd interviewed all the rest, but quite rightly, won't make a decision until we give RM a chance in his interview.

Not that we will appoint him, he is just the last of the candidates and then we can make the decision.

False hope - maybe, but I'll cling to it.

[maidstonevillain]

As I said earlier, Roberto Martinez could easily be Graham Turner re-visited.

We're at a bit of a crossroads and gambles are the last thing we should be attempting.  That list aint great though!!

He is going to be himself, it is totally unfair to compare him with other managers who have failed.

I'm comparing the randam nature of taking a shock, largely unproven Manager into our Club when it's at a real crossroads - we've tried this before and we ended up getting relegated.

This appointment would remind me of that one.  That's the parrallel

We also tried it with Little and Gregory, and they did okay.

Different times. The teams were still largely British, and the leagues were not as polarised. Besides both had connections with the club.