Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[PeterWithesShin]

I may be a "pleb" to you, but I know the difference between there and their. And i've also never said I wanted Martinez. But carry on.

[dave.woodhall]

Can we please cut down on the insults. Thank you.

[Holy Trinity]

I may be a "pleb" to you, but I know the difference between there and their. And i've also never said I wanted Martinez. But carry on.

oh way to teach me to spell, if it makes you feel any bigger i also struggle with does and dose and which's and the english language in general, sometimes in my posts i have to change what im writingcus i cant spell what im trying to but hey whatever im coming 30 and have managed this far, if your not trying to defend martinez and are to stupid to see the comaprason between 2 2nd best teams then thats not my problem really, the point i made was about risk and reward and the risk far out wieghs the reward, 1 season in the bottom 5 and the squad would implode

[KevinGage]

He is not a manager who is the finished article like Benitez and ancelotti but he is ambitious and has talent. It is achievement in itself to keep Wigan in the Premier league amongst much bigger clubs who have gone down in recent years. He also did much to develop Swansea.

I think we may be pleasantly surprised if the fans give him the chance. I'd much rather have a manager like this than one who might just move on within 2 years

I agree. The logical step for Martinez now is a mid table team. Despite  a lot of posters on here seemingly being convinced we are Man Utd's equal have a world wide pull, we don't. We have finished outside of the top 5 for 13 years consecutively,as much as it pains me to say it we are a good mid-table team with ambition.

If we get a manager at the level of Benitez it will be because the money is right and we will be a project, where they may think that we should be grateful to have them as a manager. Or, we can get someone who will see Villa as the pinnacle of their career so far and be driven to prove they deserve the honour of managing our club and will strive to improve themselves and the team.

I can see the benefits of both the up and coming manager and also the experienced man. To write off Martinez because "he only just kept Wigan up" is a bit naive to say the least however to think Benitez or Ancelloti are automatically the answer to our problems is as well. Any appointment will be a gamble to a degree.

Oh and as a last point Martinez is currently employed, he is not the cheap option substantial compensation would have to be paid, Benitez comes for free.

Yes.



Was delighted this evening when I heard McLaren and Fat Benny were out of the running.   Wasn't quite expecting Martinez, but he's not as utterly detestable as the above and fits in with the idea that we should look for a bloke on the way up rather than on the way down.

In truth, I think it is perhaps a year or two too early. But he has shown an ability to spot and then convince talented young players to sign for Wigan, has his side playing decent football and -perhaps most tellingly- he might actually want the  job.  Sometimes you just have to take a chance and hope that it isn't actually too early.

If we've put feelers out and the usual suspects like Ancelotti, Moyes, Rafa and co aren't interested, what do you do?

[Holy Trinity]

Can we please cut down on the insults. Thank you.

whos insulted anyone

if im getting moaned at for saying pleb thats abit daft considering the things the others get away with

[hartman_1982]

For what it's worth, if you look at Betfair there is a considerable amount in the market for Martinez compared to any other candidate. There is also far more in the market for you to back (ie far more people are laying Martinez) which may suggest somebody somewhere knows it is not him.

[Louzie0]

How about renaming this thread as 'who should be Aston Villa Manager? Now with new, relaxed poll'

Because I've just spent the last 30 minutes going through the posts to find out what's been happening and there is way too much stress.

MM on my page 184 (at about 7pm) said that there was a 'meltdown' possibility as manager.  Now I like Martinez but...meltdown?  How on earth has he got to be the focus for so many pages of angst?

I just think we should surf the list on the combined betting page and laugh in the faces of Pat Murphy, Tom Ross and Matt Kendrick, none of whom have the first clue about what is actually happening.

And keep our fingers crossed!

[Stu]

I may be a "pleb" to you, but I know the difference between there and their. And i've also never said I wanted Martinez. But carry on.

Don't forget 'they're' either.

[Brazilian Villain]

elverton were a tin pot outfit at the time whos aspiration  were survival. we are the biggest club in the midlands by a mile everton are the birmingham city of the north,

Prior to Shankly's arrival Everton were often the biggest and most successful club in Liverpool. Blues have never been and never will be the biggest club in the Midlands.

Dave's right, Everton are similar to us in terms of size and history. We are however currently much better placed than them due to
- A stadium generating good commercial income and no need for a new stadium.
- Geographical location which means we have a wide catchment area.
- Not having the two most successful clubs in England and the richest club in the UK on our doorstep.
- An owner who is a billionaire rather than a millionaire.

[Holy Trinity]

elverton were a tin pot outfit at the time who's aspiration  were survival. we are the biggest club in the midlands by a mile everton are the birmingham city of the north,

Prior to Shankly's arrival Everton were often the biggest and most successful club in Liverpool. Blues have never been and never will be the biggest club in the Midlands.

Dave's right, Everton are similar to us in terms of size and history. We are however currently much better placed than them due to
- A stadium generating good commercial income and no need for a new stadium.
- Geographical location which means we have a wide catchment area.
- Not having the two most successful clubs in England and the richest club in the UK on our doorstep.
- An owner who is a billionaire rather than a millionaire.

Yes that's true but I was talking about a situation in 2002 where everton were relegation fodder, and they are still a small club compared to there closest neighbour. But I genuinely don't give a shite about everton the point was never about everton the club rather that them appointing moyes was no master stroke as they were in danger of drifting into obscurity, we simply cannot afford to take martinez and finish 15th which is where moyes finished his first season. The situation was posting that because everton appointed moyes we should appoint martinez. Anyway I'm going be now. Slightly depressed about the days conclusion hopefully tomorrow will be a better day.

[Dante Lavelli]

A quote from the Independent:

"But Martinez has indicated in the last 24 hours that he feels duty-bound to pursue the role he has been given for Whelan for at least another year."

It's bad enough choosing Martinez as da man, but getting rejected by him is not clever.

[eamonn]

Has Pat sodding Murphy had anything positive to say about us since his mate Martin buggered off last summer? I would be very surprised if the sticking point with Benitez was transfer funds after we've been led to believe that Rafa is dying to get a decent job in England where he can build something without undue interference from owners.

As to Bobby Martinez, I admire The Situation's stance on him and regular, sensible contributors like Messrs Bridges and Harper make good points about his talents and potential. He was clearly hamstrung by the type of players he could attract to Wigan. N'Zogbia aside, their wage-bill would make interesting reading, especially compared to West Ham (or even our beloved Blose brethren) for example. If it does happen, I would view it as a ballsy gamble rather than a weak decision to decide and settle for midtable. His record at Swansea suggests he's got something special about him. Must also be nice for Faulkner to interview someone close to his own age . Seriously though, I'd think it a risky appointment but more exciting and potentially more successful than someone like Hughes.

[N'Zimidy]

Long time reader, first time poster.

Surely a "Big name" manager that hasn't been mentioned much on here and is available is Quique Sanchez Flores. The former Valencia and Atletico Madrid boss. He left Atletico at the end of this season because he didn't secure fourth place and Champions League. However the year before he won the Europa League, then the Super Cup against Rafa's Inter Milan.

Guillem Balague has been making noises about him possibly coming to Villa lately and I think he definitely should be on our list of targets. 

[taylorsworkrate]

Pat Murphy again saying Benitez wanted £30m to spend.  But apparently we don't have/don't want to spend that much.

Surely we would have had that sort of budget after Young was sold (even bigger if downing went too)

[spangley1812]

Pat Murphy again saying Benitez wanted £30m to spend.  But apparently we don't have/don't want to spend that much.

Surely we would have had that sort of budget after Young was sold (even bigger if downing went too)

Where do you think this money is coming from.........Randys own pocket, the club is making huge losses every season, we wont get all the £15m from Young as Watford have a sell on clause