Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[curiousorange]

When the board came in in 2006, they were talking about getting us back in the big competition. What makes you think Martinez's record suggests he could do that?

Lets be honest, people are chuckling at the misfortune of the fact that Spurzzzz aren't likely to be back in the CL at any point soon.  If they haven't got any realistic chance, then we're most certainly fucked.
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That ship long since sailed for us.

[pauliewalnuts]

you got Allardyce, Pullis and MON on one side of the footballing spectrum and Wenger, Roberto and maybe coyle on the other, loads inbetween obviously

would be great to have a manager at Villa with those football principles,
its a risk i agree, but one i would love to see us take

Romantically, it's a superb idea. Bright young manager, sound footballing principles, PL experience, an unknown quantity that might take the league by storm given a very decent squad and a big transfer pot to realise his ideas.

Logically, it's insane.

Spot on.

[caster troy]

What is this myth of Wigan and great football? They've been piss-poor EVERY single time I've seen them.

Would rather have kept Houllier or got o'Neill back in.

Hope the story's bullshit.

Agreed, I bet their fans weren't thinking 'great football' when they lost 9-0 to Spurs.

[marshall]

Why do people criticise a manager's ability without looking at what teams he has managed. Jose would struggle to win things with Wigan.

Martinez is never going to be able to see if he can be a top manager unless he goes to bigger clubs. Moyes when he went from Preston to Everton he has proved he is a great manager because he was given the chance

At least give him a chance

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Someone has to take a punt on a manager sometime. As has been mentioned, we've tried the 'proven' route with 2 guys (Mon in particular) as high profile and respected as we are likely to get. Why not try something a bit different? It just might work.

[curiousorange]

What is this myth of Wigan and great football? They've been piss-poor EVERY single time I've seen them.

Would rather have kept Houllier or got o'Neill back in.

Hope the story's bullshit.

Agreed, I bet their fans weren't thinking 'great football' when they lost 9-0 to Spurs.

I'm not going to damn the bloke on the back of one result. But I'll damn him on that one and the other 37.

[timeoutbigbar]

Such as losing 4-0 at home to Blackpool on the opening day of the season...

[Dan England]

He is not a manager who is the finished article like Benitez and ancelotti but he is ambitious and has talent. It is achievement in itself to keep Wigan in the Premier league amongst much bigger clubs who have gone down in recent years. He also did much to develop Swansea.

I think we may be pleasantly surprised if the fans give him the chance. I'd much rather have a manager like this than one who might just move on within 2 years

I agree. The logical step for Martinez now is a mid table team. Despite  a lot of posters on here seemingly being convinced we are Man Utd's equal have a world wide pull, we don't. We have finished outside of the top 5 for 13 years consecutively,as much as it pains me to say it we are a good mid-table team with ambition.

If we get a manager at the level of Benitez it will be because the money is right and we will be a project, where they may think that we should be grateful to have them as a manager. Or, we can get someone who will see Villa as the pinnacle of their career so far and be driven to prove they deserve the honour of managing our club and will strive to improve themselves and the team.

I can see the benefits of both the up and coming manager and also the experienced man. To write off Martinez because "he only just kept Wigan up" is a bit naive to say the least however to think Benitez or Ancelloti are automatically the answer to our problems is as well. Any appointment will be a gamble to a degree.

Oh and as a last point Martinez is currently employed, he is not the cheap option substantial compensation would have to be paid, Benitez comes for free.

[Clampy]

Someone has to take a punt on a manager sometime. As has been mentioned, we've tried the 'proven' route with 2 guys (Mon in particular) as high profile and respected as we are likely to get. Why not try something a bit different? It just might work.

In that case, why did'nt Fulham?

[curiousorange]

Someone has to take a punt on a manager sometime. As has been mentioned, we've tried the 'proven' route with 2 guys (Mon in particular) as high profile and respected as we are likely to get. Why not try something a bit different? It just might work.

No argument about Houllier from me, but it was working with O'Neill up to a point, even if we were ultimately disappointed.

[Fuse]

Can't believe the bollix being sprouted by The Situation. Sounds like you could get a job doing Spin in Lerner's PR machine to me.

Martinez is Graham Turner mark2 and I will be lumping money on us being relegated next season. It is going to be like the mid-80s all over again

[hilts_coolerking]

Someone has to take a punt on a manager sometime.

Agreed, but not us, not now, and not with Martinez.

[Greg N'Ash]

i don't know. I wasn't seriously expecting Ancellotti or any of the other stella names put forward, but i thought we'd be aiming a bit higher than Martinez. Not got anything against him really. tries to plays football, has potential, but as far as attracting or keeping players, it going to be a bit bleak until he can actually achieve something*


*like finishing mid-table

[curiousorange]

He is not a manager who is the finished article like Benitez and ancelotti but he is ambitious and has talent. It is achievement in itself to keep Wigan in the Premier league amongst much bigger clubs who have gone down in recent years. He also did much to develop Swansea.

I think we may be pleasantly surprised if the fans give him the chance. I'd much rather have a manager like this than one who might just move on within 2 years

I agree. The logical step for Martinez now is a mid table team. Despite  a lot of posters on here seemingly being convinced we are Man Utd's equal have a world wide pull, we don't. We have finished outside of the top 5 for 13 years consecutively,as much as it pains me to say it we are a good mid-table team with ambition.

If we get a manager at the level of Benitez it will be because the money is right and we will be a project, where they may think that we should be grateful to have them as a manager. Or, we can get someone who will see Villa as the pinnacle of their career so far and be driven to prove they deserve the honour of managing our club and will strive to improve themselves and the team.

I can see the benefits of both the up and coming manager and also the experienced man. To write off Martinez because "he only just kept Wigan up" is a bit naive to say the least however to think Benitez or Ancelloti are automatically the answer to our problems is as well. Any appointment will be a gamble to a degree.

Oh and as a last point Martinez is currently employed, he is not the cheap option substantial compensation would have to be paid, Benitez comes for free.

Surely the most agreeable solution for everyone involved would be for Moyes to take up the reins at Villa, Martinez moves to Goodison, and Wigan get Avram Grant

[pauliewalnuts]

I can see the benefits of both the up and coming manager and also the experienced man. To write off Martinez because "he only just kept Wigan up" is a bit naive to say the least however to think Benitez or Ancelloti are automatically the answer to our problems is as well. Any appointment will be a gamble to a degree.

So what are the reasons for taking Martinez, then?

I can think of one. Spots cheap players from abroad, who then go on and do well and are sold.

it's hard to spin that positively.

I appreciate he might like good football, but then again, so do I, so does almost everyone on here. Being able to actually make it happen is a totally different thing.