Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[mr woo]

I would be interested to know when is the right time to take a HUGE gamble? Because no time is the right time in truth....

When you've been relegated, or when you've been rubbing along mid-table for a few seasons. Not when you've just slipped from a good position and need to get back there ASAP.

Or perhaps when your previous manager has fucked off taking his entire coaching staff 5 days before the start of the season and there are no stand-out replacements available?

[The Situation]

Going by some people's logic in here we should appoint McLaren because he has a better CV than Martinez.

I'd rather McLaren than Martinez.

Go on then, we're still waiting to hear your arguments for why it'd be a good appointment ("we're not Man United" doesn't count, sadly).

I can think of a few reasons McLaren would be a better choice, but I can't see many in support of Martinez.

I can see even fewer reasons to shift Houllier for either of them,

I don't debate people who would rather have Steve McLaren than Roberto Martinez as Villa manager.

[Mazrim]

Totally underwhelming and quite honestly, frightening. I just refuse to believe this is what we are left with.

Mysteryman, in your own time please. Restore us to those Halcyon hours of 6 and 7 O'clock.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't debate people who would rather have Steve McLaren than Roberto Martinez as Villa manager.

Maybe you'd be taken more seriously if you actually backed up your stance with reasoned argument rather than posting funny animated gifs?

[timeoutbigbar]

Totally underwhelming and quite honestly, frightening. I just refuse to believe this is what we are left with.

Mysteryman, in your own time please. Restore us to those Halcyon hours of 6 and 7 O'clock.

*tumbleweed*

[Stu]

I'm not as horrified at the thought of Martinez as I rightly should be and I've no idea why.

Think of it this way: if Martinez does get the job, it shows the board up for lacking ambition. It shows that they're comfortable with Villa humming along nicely in mid-table, the occasional run in the cups and a season or two in the Europa league. It is not a statement of intent, it does not show a willingness to compete and it certainly does not show that the board have the capability for choosing the right manager.

Martinez may very well become a top manager one day, but for us, now, when we're at a crossroads over where our best players are going to be, a massive reorganisation of the defense and midfield due to AY and possibly Downing leaving (I imagine appointing Martinez would have Downing getting his agent on the phone to Liverpool ASAP), appointing someone like Martinez is madness. I can't believe that some of you think this is a sensible appointment in the current climate at Villa now. Its mental.

[TheSandman]

The Guardian reckon it's between Martinez and Coyle.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/08/aston-villa-roberto-martinez-owen-coyle

Not the greatest choice I'd have to say. Two premier league places between them though I guess Bolton have a bigger budget than Wigan.

I'd still have either ahead of McClaren.

[Risso]

I don't debate people who would rather have Steve McLaren than Roberto Martinez as Villa manager.

Maybe you'd be taken more seriously if you actually backed up your stance with reasoned argument rather than posting funny animated gifs?

I think you're wasting your breath, The Situation has clearly seen the Youtube video of Steve McClaren, and has decided that winning trophies comes a poor second to having a Spanish surname and avoiding relegation by the width of a gnat's cock.

[The Situation]

I don't debate people who would rather have Steve McLaren than Roberto Martinez as Villa manager.

Maybe you'd be taken more seriously if you actually backed up your stance with reasoned argument rather than posting funny animated gifs?

I think you're wasting your breath, The Situation has clearly seen the Youtube video of Steve McClaren, and has decided that winning trophies comes a poor second to having a Spanish surname and avoiding relegation by the width of a gnat's cock.

Sorry MR Misery, McLaren's 15 minutes of fame in Holland isn't enough to convince most Villa fans of him being Villa manager rather than Martinez. It doesn't really matter anyway because you'd be clinically depressed with whoever we appoint as manager.

Oh, just thought I'd let you Martinez is THIRTY SEVEN.

[pauliewalnuts]

So, still no arguments in favour other than pithy pictures?

[mr woo]

Totally underwhelming and quite honestly, frightening. I just refuse to believe this is what we are left with.

Mysteryman, in your own time please. Restore us to those Halcyon hours of 6 and 7 O'clock.

Sorry Maz, it appears MM was spot on as usual, but we misinterpreted the clues.

[Mazrim]

I doubt it.

[Karl Bridges]

The reasoned debate is that the board want somone with Prem experience, that is the number one condition that has been stated.

 If the stories so far are to be believed, we asked Ancellotti who said no. Benitez was ruled out because he asked for too much to spend. Moyes said he wasn't interested, Mclaren was ruled out despite being lined up for an interview because of fan's reactions. The list is getting smaller it now looks like a flat race between Coyle & Martinez.

My preference is Martinez. He turned Swansea into a fantastic footballing side and took them higher than they had been in a long time, the chairman even continued his footballing philosophy by emloying managers who would continue this system. I don't think Wigan are a Premiership team in any way and keeping them up despite being one of the favourites to go down is a decent job. I'd like to see what he can do with a bit more weight behind him.

[The Situation]

So, still no arguments in favour other than pithy pictures?

What did McLaren win at 37?

pls go.

[Eigentor]

Martinez may be the next Wenger, but some time ago someone suggested that Salifou was the new Zidane. I'd agree that Martinez is a better manager than Salifou is a football player, but the deficiencies in his Wigan side suggest that he lacks technical expertise and tactical knowledge. As I said, I fear he is more style than substance.

As for McClaren, he has a mixed record. The issue might not be his achievements, but that people don't want a man ridiculed for a strange Dutch accent, using an umbrella and failing with England as the face of our club. We might become a laughing stock.

Besides, assuming that Coyle and Martinez are the top targets, if we are looking for managers performing slightly better than expected with mediocre/poor PL teams, then Hughes would probably be my favourite after all.