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Author Topic: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll  (Read 2146991 times)

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3330 on: June 09, 2011, 12:31:36 AM »
Well written article by the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2001191/Aston-Villa-close-Roberto-Martinez.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

How's this as an opener to an article?

"The rise and rise of Roberto Martinez has taken him to the brink of becoming the next Aston Villa manager"

Cracking stuff!

Did you read it?

Headline: "Aston Villa close in on Wigan boss Roberto Martinez to mind Randy Lerner's money"

Then: "Martinez, who was given permission by Wigan chairman Dave Whelan to talk to Villa, ticks all the boxes as far as owner Randy Lerner is concerned — especially when it comes to working on a tight budget."

Amazing stuff.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3331 on: June 09, 2011, 12:33:29 AM »
Of the two, I'd prefer Coyle but I doubt he'll leave Bolton. I think others are correct, it's not the time to gamble really. One poor season surrounded by three good ones and we are suddenly appointing lesser Managers. In time Martinez might be great but the longer that takes, the further the top four will move away from us. We'd need snookers to catch them. I'd rather have Moyes or Hughes but I'll support Martinez if he gets the job.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3332 on: June 09, 2011, 12:34:05 AM »
I'd prefer Hughes but Martinez fits - a manager ready for a step up, with some Premiership experience and a reputation for improving clubs, making good signings on a comparative shoestring and playing good football. Owen Coyle? We may as well get Holloway in.

Offline Karl Bridges

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3333 on: June 09, 2011, 12:34:28 AM »
Carlos Queiroz didn't do awfully well away from being under Fergie's wing.

Offline citizenDJ

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3334 on: June 09, 2011, 12:34:32 AM »
That all depends on whether we believe that we are operating on a tight budget, doesn't it? Last time we were being reported as broke, we bought Bent and Makoun. Maybe that was the last of it, but I think there will be still something left for a new manager.

re: the Mail article

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3335 on: June 09, 2011, 12:35:09 AM »
Well written article by the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2001191/Aston-Villa-close-Roberto-Martinez.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

How's this as an opener to an article?

"The rise and rise of Roberto Martinez has taken him to the brink of becoming the next Aston Villa manager"

Cracking stuff!

Did you read it?

Headline: "Aston Villa close in on Wigan boss Roberto Martinez to mind Randy Lerner's money"

Then: "Martinez, who was given permission by Wigan chairman Dave Whelan to talk to Villa, ticks all the boxes as far as owner Randy Lerner is concerned — especially when it comes to working on a tight budget."

Amazing stuff.

Would you prefer O'Neill managing our transfer budget?

Offline Stu

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3336 on: June 09, 2011, 12:36:05 AM »
Well written article by the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2001191/Aston-Villa-close-Roberto-Martinez.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

How's this as an opener to an article?

"The rise and rise of Roberto Martinez has taken him to the brink of becoming the next Aston Villa manager"

Cracking stuff!

And here's the closer:
Martinez is fresh, young, and knows about modest budgets after Swansea and Wigan. He and Villa could be a marriage made in heaven.

Doesn't sound that good to be honest. Essentially its saying 'because Martinez knows how to operate on a budget, he'll be perfect for Villa.'

Not really inspiring is it?

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3337 on: June 09, 2011, 12:38:24 AM »
Well written article by the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2001191/Aston-Villa-close-Roberto-Martinez.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

How's this as an opener to an article?

"The rise and rise of Roberto Martinez has taken him to the brink of becoming the next Aston Villa manager"

Cracking stuff!

Did you read it?

Headline: "Aston Villa close in on Wigan boss Roberto Martinez to mind Randy Lerner's money"

Then: "Martinez, who was given permission by Wigan chairman Dave Whelan to talk to Villa, ticks all the boxes as far as owner Randy Lerner is concerned — especially when it comes to working on a tight budget."

Amazing stuff.

Did you see who wrote the article?

Offline Stu

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3338 on: June 09, 2011, 12:38:32 AM »
Would you prefer O'Neill managing our transfer budget?

What's O'Neill got to do with it? Where has he been mentioned in this?
« Last Edit: June 09, 2011, 12:40:04 AM by Stu »

Offline The Situation

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3339 on: June 09, 2011, 12:41:48 AM »
Why are people looking at Martinez is such a rigid way?

Villa is a much bigger step up from Wigan and a challenge he'll relish, he'd be given a bigger budget and he'll have better players to work with... you're not even giving him a chance when we haven't even hired the man!

Don't you think the Everton fans had some reservations about Moyes? Of course they did, but looking back they're very happy that he was made manager back then. Oh and get this, Moyes was 39 back when he became Everton manager. 37-39... massive difference.

Offline Tokyo Sexwhale

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3340 on: June 09, 2011, 12:42:06 AM »
Pat Murphy again saying Benitez wanted £30m to spend.  But apparently we don't have/don't want to spend that much.

Offline The Situation

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3341 on: June 09, 2011, 12:44:28 AM »
Would you prefer O'Neill managing our transfer budget?

What's O'Neill got to do with it? Where has he been mentioned in this?
Well everything really.

Would you want someone like O'Neill as manager trying to do the role as chariman as well as manager going around thinking he owns the club or do you want someone like Martinez who know where stands and knows his role in the club... as manager.

Offline Risso

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3342 on: June 09, 2011, 12:45:22 AM »
Why are people looking at Martinez is such a rigid way?

Villa is a much bigger step up from Wigan and a challenge he'll relish, he'd be given a bigger budget and he'll have better players to work with... you're not even giving him a chance when we haven't even hired the man!

Don't you think the Everton fans had some reservations about Moyes? Of course they did, but looking back they're very happy that he was made manager back then. Oh and get this, Moyes was 39 back when he became Everton manager. 37-39... massive difference.

You haven't come up with a single positive argument in favour of Martinez.  Not one.  Of course he'll relish the challenge, but then so would Steve McClaren who you don't want, as would just about any other out of work manager out there.

Offline villapark1982

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3343 on: June 09, 2011, 12:45:57 AM »
Hi guys, I have just joined as I have been seeing some very childish messages and I felt I should contribute.

Well, after 7-8 days of speculation; we are no further from establishing who our manager will be. However, it does seem now that Martinez is the only manager thus far to progress to an interview process.

Is he the right man for Villa. Well, I do admire the guy as a young upcoming manager. I think he has a tremendous future ahead of him; he has a brilliant knowledge of the game for someone so young in terms of management exp; he has the right philosophy on how football should be played; and he conducts himself in the right way.

However, is it too early not just for Villa but for Martinez to be taking such a high profile job? Brushing Villa aside for a moment. I think that Martinez needs to be at a club where he has the support of the chairmen, the fans, and the players; with no pressure of instant success. Because if he fails, it could have a damaging effect on his progression as a manager. We all know he is one for the future. But, he has yet to prove he can meet such high expectations. Yes, people will argue that he is restrained through limited resources at Wigan, and that a step up with Villa would only fast track his status and progression. Im not so sure...

I do not believe that Villa would offer Martinez the stability he requires and what we require. It just seems a complete mis-match to me. Yes, he would no doubt have the support of our Chairmen; that goes without saying. But, would he be supported by the players and all fans?? I'm not so sure judging from the comments I have read. I for one, would support anyone who manages our great club. But, it just seems that this partnership could be damaging to both parties in the short-term. Mantinez needs stability to progress and enhance his reputation as manager, and Villa need a manager who can also offer stability and progression. Will this be a beneficial partnership worth taking a chance on; i would say no.

For me, if Villa were really interested in appointing Martinez which judging from reports, it would seem they are; It means one thing. Although Martinez will be at a much bigger club (no disrespect to Wigan), he will be working under the same restraints when it comes to transfer dealings. That would be a worry for me. I thought Villa had turned a corner and we were now a club who, although ,cannot compete with the big boys; we still had some financial clout when it came to transfers.

I would be very concerned that although we are all resigned to losing Young this summer, that Downing would also follow. Football is a fickle business as we all know. I think this appointment would send out the wrong message on the direction we are going. Yes, it would tell people we are looking to change our philosophy on how we like to play football. That trait of Martinez has to be commended. But what it would also state is that our club is entering another transitional period; and with players like A.Young (25), S.Downing (26), and D.Bent (27) all coming to the peak of their careers; it would send out the wrong message on where this Clubs direction is heading. I just feel an exodus is coming and that if this strategy doesn't work; we will see Randy Lerner moving on very quickly.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #3344 on: June 09, 2011, 12:50:44 AM »
Why are people looking at Martinez is such a rigid way?

Because he hasn't displayed anything that qualifies him for the job at Villa. He's done relatively ok at a side that just want to cling to the bottom of the Prem every season, he hasn't had Wigan punching above their weight and hasn't even shown flashes that he is able to coax them into doing so, considering the players he's got there.

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Villa is a much bigger step up from Wigan and a challenge he'll relish, he'd be given a bigger budget and he'll have better players to work with... you're not even giving him a chance when we haven't even hired the man!

I'm sorry, but I don't trust him with the money required to rebuild the squad. Again, where has he been succesful at this? Swansea is one thing, doing it with one of the top teams in the country is another. I think it's too much for him right now.

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Don't you think the Everton fans had some reservations about Moyes? Of course they did, but looking back they're very happy that he was made manager back then. Oh and get this, Moyes was 39 back when he became Everton manager. 37-39... massive difference.

Probably, I don't know. But then, I don't really care about what happens at Everton either. I know that this appointment will show that we're not trying to compete anymore though. I don't know what your infatuation with managers in their late 30's is either, what is your point?

 


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