Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[philsheard]

Definitely approached them, quotes from Whelan:

‘I’d be surprised if he is Villa’s new manager,’ said Whelan. ‘I have made it clear to him that I will be extending his contract.
‘Villa have acted above board and in a totally professional manner throughout. They wrote to me asking for permission to speak to Roberto. He was on holiday at the time and I granted Villa permission.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2001191/Aston-Villa-close-Roberto-Martinez.html#ixzz1Oj2sCO8a

sounds like we approached them earlier this week whilst he was on holiday. he might have just been one of many lined up for interviews so not necessarily nailed on to be appointed. Still time for Van Gaal (please!!!!!)

[The Situation]

He is not a manager who is the finished article like Benitez and ancelotti but he is ambitious and has talent. It is achievement in itself to keep Wigan in the Premier league amongst much bigger clubs who have gone down in recent years. He also did much to develop Swansea.

I think we may be pleasantly surprised if the fans give him the chance. I'd much rather have a manager like this than one who might just move on within 2 years

I agree. The logical step for Martinez now is a mid table team. Despite  a lot of posters on here seemingly being convinced we are Man Utd's equal have a world wide pull, we don't. We have finished outside of the top 5 for 13 years consecutively,as much as it pains me to say it we are a good mid-table team with ambition.

If we get a manager at the level of Benitez it will be because the money is right and we will be a project, where they may think that we should be grateful to have them as a manager. Or, we can get someone who will see Villa as the pinnacle of their career so far and be driven to prove they deserve the honour of managing our club and will strive to improve themselves and the team.

I can see the benefits of both the up and coming manager and also the experienced man. To write off Martinez because "he only just kept Wigan up" is a bit naive to say the least however to think Benitez or Ancelloti are automatically the answer to our problems is as well. Any appointment will be a gamble to a degree.

Oh and as a last point Martinez is currently employed, he is not the cheap option substantial compensation would have to be paid, Benitez comes for free.

Stop right there!

You're not allowed to make rational posts, you've got to be saying "I will throw my season ticket at Martinez if we lose our first home game" or "I will never set foot inside Villa Park whilst Martinez is manager".

[curiousorange]

I kind of knew the meltdown thing wasn't going to be in a positive way. Lo and behold, it's true.

[Summers]

Why would Whelan be surprised if he is our new manager? Would be crazy to turn us down and stay at Wigan - no offence to Wigan.

Seeming more and more likely. I just hope people back him if he comes.

[wozwebs]

Bring back Houllier!

[dave.woodhall]

If we could afford a couple of years rebuilding as in 2006, or we'd just been relegated and had to gamble, Martinez would be a decent appointment, but this isn't one of those times. We have to have a manager who can get this squad back into top six contention immediately and then rebuild to aim higher. Martinez might prove to be the next Wenger and we could miss the biggest opportunity since Sheffield United turned down Maradona but this isn't the time to make that gamble.

[Risso]

I cannot believe, in such a time of transition and uncertainty, when we need experienced and strong leadership, that fans think hiring a rookie manager that has not even shone at his current club the opportunity to make all the footballing decisions here is a good idea.

I'm a gambler, I love taking risks and so on, but this is madness.
This is not the time for it and he is not the person for it. I dont seriously think Randy is going to employ him but if he did I would seriously question his judgement for the first time.
So I hope the info from MM comes through and we take this opportunity to start a bright new chapter with a top manager. An appointment that will put us back in the thoughts of the footballing community and inspire the players we have and the ones we need as well as the support. Because as long as Ive got a hole in my arse, Martinez is not that. Not yet.

Completely agree Maz.  I think he's a decent manager, nothing more.  Not at all what we need at the moment.

[curiousorange]

He is not a manager who is the finished article like Benitez and ancelotti but he is ambitious and has talent. It is achievement in itself to keep Wigan in the Premier league amongst much bigger clubs who have gone down in recent years. He also did much to develop Swansea.

I think we may be pleasantly surprised if the fans give him the chance. I'd much rather have a manager like this than one who might just move on within 2 years

I agree. The logical step for Martinez now is a mid table team. Despite  a lot of posters on here seemingly being convinced we are Man Utd's equal have a world wide pull, we don't. We have finished outside of the top 5 for 13 years consecutively,as much as it pains me to say it we are a good mid-table team with ambition.

If we get a manager at the level of Benitez it will be because the money is right and we will be a project, where they may think that we should be grateful to have them as a manager. Or, we can get someone who will see Villa as the pinnacle of their career so far and be driven to prove they deserve the honour of managing our club and will strive to improve themselves and the team.

I can see the benefits of both the up and coming manager and also the experienced man. To write off Martinez because "he only just kept Wigan up" is a bit naive to say the least however to think Benitez or Ancelloti are automatically the answer to our problems is as well. Any appointment will be a gamble to a degree.

Oh and as a last point Martinez is currently employed, he is not the cheap option substantial compensation would have to be paid, Benitez comes for free.

Stop right there!

You're not allowed to make rational posts, you've got to be saying "I will throw my season ticket at Martinez if we lose our first home game" or "I will never set foot inside Villa Park whilst Martinez is manager".

I don't think I've read a post on here this evening relating to Martinez that doesn't have reason at the heart of it. Whatever your opinion, the doubters about the potential appointment are looking at their argument rationally as well.

[Risso]

He is not a manager who is the finished article like Benitez and ancelotti but he is ambitious and has talent. It is achievement in itself to keep Wigan in the Premier league amongst much bigger clubs who have gone down in recent years. He also did much to develop Swansea.

I think we may be pleasantly surprised if the fans give him the chance. I'd much rather have a manager like this than one who might just move on within 2 years

I agree. The logical step for Martinez now is a mid table team. Despite  a lot of posters on here seemingly being convinced we are Man Utd's equal have a world wide pull, we don't. We have finished outside of the top 5 for 13 years consecutively,as much as it pains me to say it we are a good mid-table team with ambition.

If we get a manager at the level of Benitez it will be because the money is right and we will be a project, where they may think that we should be grateful to have them as a manager. Or, we can get someone who will see Villa as the pinnacle of their career so far and be driven to prove they deserve the honour of managing our club and will strive to improve themselves and the team.

I can see the benefits of both the up and coming manager and also the experienced man. To write off Martinez because "he only just kept Wigan up" is a bit naive to say the least however to think Benitez or Ancelloti are automatically the answer to our problems is as well. Any appointment will be a gamble to a degree.

Oh and as a last point Martinez is currently employed, he is not the cheap option substantial compensation would have to be paid, Benitez comes for free.

Stop right there!

You're not allowed to make rational posts, you've got to be saying "I will throw my season ticket at Martinez if we lose our first home game" or "I will never set foot inside Villa Park whilst Martinez is manager".

Since when does finishing out of the top 5 make a mid table side?  There's absolutely nothing rational about your post, it's as childish as the people saying they'll throw their season tickets away.

[PeterWithesShin]

Christ i'm getting depressed. If Martinez is the best option for where we are and where we want to get to, our stock as a club is a lot lower than I thought it was.

[pauliewalnuts]

He is not a manager who is the finished article like Benitez and ancelotti but he is ambitious and has talent. It is achievement in itself to keep Wigan in the Premier league amongst much bigger clubs who have gone down in recent years. He also did much to develop Swansea.

I think we may be pleasantly surprised if the fans give him the chance. I'd much rather have a manager like this than one who might just move on within 2 years

I agree. The logical step for Martinez now is a mid table team. Despite  a lot of posters on here seemingly being convinced we are Man Utd's equal have a world wide pull, we don't. We have finished outside of the top 5 for 13 years consecutively,as much as it pains me to say it we are a good mid-table team with ambition.

If we get a manager at the level of Benitez it will be because the money is right and we will be a project, where they may think that we should be grateful to have them as a manager. Or, we can get someone who will see Villa as the pinnacle of their career so far and be driven to prove they deserve the honour of managing our club and will strive to improve themselves and the team.

I can see the benefits of both the up and coming manager and also the experienced man. To write off Martinez because "he only just kept Wigan up" is a bit naive to say the least however to think Benitez or Ancelloti are automatically the answer to our problems is as well. Any appointment will be a gamble to a degree.

Oh and as a last point Martinez is currently employed, he is not the cheap option substantial compensation would have to be paid, Benitez comes for free.

Stop right there!

You're not allowed to make rational posts, you've got to be saying "I will throw my season ticket at Martinez if we lose our first home game" or "I will never set foot inside Villa Park whilst Martinez is manager".

I don't think I've read a post on here this evening relating to Martinez that doesn't have reason at the heart of it. Whatever your opinion, the doubters about the potential appointment are looking at their argument rationally as well.

And he seems unable to provide a compelling reason to appoint Martinez beyond "we're not Man United".

[JJ-AV]

Whelan's a loudmouth and maybe it's leaked from Wigan's end?

Maybe he's on a shortlist of three or four. Who knows?

It all adds up to be him though, Kendrick said two with Prem. experience interviewed this week - one is a primary target (Rafa).

Obviously an agreement with Rafa couldn't be reached so we've moved on.

I'd welcome him, but he wouldn't be my first choice.

[djtbc]

Maz and Dave W. talking total sense - really not the time to take a HUGE gamble. If they do go with him, it will probably time for Randy to step forward and explain the club's new strategy.

[pauliewalnuts]

Obviously an agreement with Rafa couldn't be reached so we've moved on.

To be honest, all we have on that is SSN saying it fell apart because of Benitez's spending requirements. I honestly can't see how they could possibly deduce that much information about what was said.

[richard moore]

Maz and Dave W. talking total sense - really not the time to take a HUGE gamble. If they do go with him, it will probably time for Randy to step forward and explain the club's new strategy.

I would be interested to know when is the right time to take a HUGE gamble? Because no time is the right time in truth....