Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[Redman]

Anyone know for sure if Benitez has kissed and made up with his former assistant Pako whatsisface? A lot of dippers suggest their falling-out was the start of their decline.

This is what it got heated about on VT.

Rafa and Pako were very close - they worked together for ten years. So it did hit him and Liverpool hard when Pako left because he was a brilliant fitness coach and a popular guy around Melwood, so I'm told.

But there's no correlation between Pako's departure and our downfall. I think there was a dip in 2008 and it could have been down to losing Pako but our best football and highest league finish came in 2009 long after he'd gone.

The one thing I remember Pako calling right was the Babel transfer. He was never convinced.

[Mazrim]

Summary of the last 5 hours? Anything to report? I've been out and about.

New X-Men film is very good.

[The Left Side]

Benitez or Rijkaard for me, they both have established records and could attract decent signings.

[Greg N'Ash]

Summary of the last 5 hours? Anything to report? I've been out and about.

New X-Men film is very good.

scary guardian piece about Mcclaren being favourite. Looks ill-informed at best  Well it better be.

[maidstonevillain]

The poll still worth a look. CA way out there and 20% want Moyes. The rest nowhere really.
If CA is having his year out and Moyes definitely not interested it suggests we ain't gonna be happy with anybody!

 i'd happily take rafa! carlo was simply first choice, id bet a fair percentage of those voting for carlo would now change to rafa in light of carlo's apparent year off

Come on admins, get your fingers out. Where's the alternative transferable vote option.

[PeterWithesShin]

Without following a club it is sometimes hard to judge a player or manager. The amount of people from outside Aston Villa only ever see the good things MON did and never the very odd things. Similar things happen with players, the press and non supporters will often think a player for that club is great but when you speak to a supporter their opinion is quite different.
So it's great to see your comments Redman, very interesting and insightful indeed. Very true about Nani and Anderson.

Agree with all that.

There must be loads of outsiders who see MON as the man who took you back into contention and Lerner as a fool for not backing him. And they must take the Bent signing as Lerner admitting his mistake. 

It's never that simple.

Loads. Oliver Holt, Paul Hayward, Rod Liddle, Henry Winter.....
 

... Patrick Barclay, Villadawg

... Martin O'Neill

[Redman]

Without following a club it is sometimes hard to judge a player or manager. The amount of people from outside Aston Villa only ever see the good things MON did and never the very odd things. Similar things happen with players, the press and non supporters will often think a player for that club is great but when you speak to a supporter their opinion is quite different.
So it's great to see your comments Redman, very interesting and insightful indeed. Very true about Nani and Anderson.

Agree with all that.

There must be loads of outsiders who see MON as the man who took you back into contention and Lerner as a fool for not backing him. And they must take the Bent signing as Lerner admitting his mistake. 

It's never that simple.

Loads. Oliver Holt, Paul Hayward, Rod Liddle, Henry Winter.....
 

... Patrick Barclay, Villadawg

... Martin O'Neill

Raphael Honigstein's twitter feed was interesting this morning.

He was comparing English and German football and how in Germany, the press have more access to players and open training sessions etc... This transparency allows the German press to get a real sense of what managers do and what they are like. In England, they can project any image of themselves they like in a press conference. For example, a pragmatic Northern Irish manager might project the image of a pensive amateur criminologist.

Honigstein was basically trying to prove what a poor manager Martin Jol is as Hamburg-based press would verify. Wonder what they would make of O'Neill?

[Irish villain]

Rafa all the way.
1. Rafa
2. Moyes
3. Hughes
4. Rijkaard
5. Martiez
6. Coyle
7. McClaren

I'm deliberately leaving Moyes in.

[Brazilian Villain]

Moyes and if he's not available, Coyle.

[tommy_boy]

Moyes is the best option but will not give up Everton for Aston Villa. Rijkaard is the last. I will kill myself if we give the job to Rijkaard. I think Hughes and McClaern are the most realistic targets.

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Never thought i would say this as i dont like him. But Rafa would be my first choice now as he has the contacts and would keep a high profile for the club. Just would be a bit worried about how much money he would expect to make the team CL contenders. Though he would be aware of up and coming young talent who he could attract at reasonable prices .......

[Irish villain]

I don't feel as optimisitc as I did a few days ago.

[eamonn]

Rijkaard is the last. I will kill myself if we give the job to Rijkaard.

That's a bit too frank.

[KevinGage]

Hang on...

This will be the Rijkaard that won the EC and La Liga twice at Barcelona after they'd have a long period (by their standards) of underachievement? The bloke that integrated a fair chunk of the current all conquering side from the youth team?

If some of our more excitable lot are creaming themselves over what Benny managed in the mid noughties (and are happy to gloss over everything since then) a bloke who has two league championships and a EC even more recently is possibly, maybe as an outside bet just about good enough for Aston Villa too.

If I wanted to be über petty and make light of Rafa's 2005 achievement -the one he's still dining out on despite the general shiteness his teams have become synonymous with after that-  I could say it's somewhat fortunate that he managed to bag the biggest pot of all by drawing with Chelsea over two legs in the SF (never a goal, that Garcia effort) and drawing with Meelan in the final.  But we know a wee bit about luck in big Euro finals, so probably best not to go there.

[Holy Trinity]

Rijkaard is the last. I will kill myself if we give the job to Rijkaard.

That's a bit too frank.

Everyone be very careful what you say here! Remember that guy in america who got sent to prison for encouraging a guy to commit suicide and the guy did.
So no go ahead's, please carry on's, don't let us stop you's and mr randy sir no appointing rijkaard just in case the police hold you accountable for this persons death :p lol