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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2055 on: June 07, 2011, 09:04:48 AM »
or Brian Clough     as Tom Hanks has said ..

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2056 on: June 07, 2011, 09:05:47 AM »
I'd be underwhelmed by Jol. Benitez is of a much higher standard and its crazy to be miffed with him from a professional point of view. Where just not in that kind of position yet.
I understand those who think he can be a bit of a bell end. I think so too.

I still reckon we've approached at least one manager in a job and been granted permission.

Moyes is the only one in a job that I could see we could at a push get and then be happy that he would take us forward. But I think Everton will be able to fend us off for him, so Hughes or Coyle are the most likely.

Ranieiri is an interesting shout for one with prem experience, well respected and out of work.

I dont think it's a case of fending us off. I think it's a case of letting Moyes go somewhere he can push on a bit.
Everton haven't got a pot to piss in. In fact their pisspots are on lend-lease. He will never realise his ambitions there and has given them enough service. As long as Everton are financially compensated (and they would be) I dont see them having a major problem. Obviously they'd be disappointed.
I reckon Moyes would have been tempted last year if the opportunity was earlier in the summer.

He's still my tip.

Ranieri is a character but would be a mistake I think. If we're going for an out of work manager it has to be van Gaal or Benitez now.

Agree with all that. I think that's why the McClaren rumours are so worrying - because there are at least two better candidates in Rafa and Moyes

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2057 on: June 07, 2011, 09:06:12 AM »
martin Laursen wants to manage us one day .

I would take Benitez and Laursen ..

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2058 on: June 07, 2011, 09:07:04 AM »
martin Laursen wants to manage us one day .

I would take Benitez and Laursen ..

That would be grand.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2059 on: June 07, 2011, 09:12:20 AM »
Doesn't matter re what they have. He is contracted to them, and I can't see him agitating the move.

Of course it matters. Its fundamental to his ability to push on in his career. The word on the street is that Everton are walking a tightrope of financial difficulty. After ten years I cant believe he's relishing another season of struggling through. Like any profession, managers will want the tools to do their job and prove themselves. He's not going to get that there. There's also the matter of things going stale.

I dont think its a matter of agitating a move either. He's been there so long and has the type of close relationship with Kenwright that it would be amicable.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2060 on: June 07, 2011, 09:13:00 AM »
Dare I say it, and assuming he has his badges, Laursen as Head Coach under Houllier as DoF might have been an interesting concept.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2061 on: June 07, 2011, 09:15:40 AM »
Ancelotti Wilkins Laursen would have been my ideal team.
I wouldn't see Laursen as anything other than a first team coach or defensive co ordinator at the moment.
Assistant manager at a stretch. He needs some managerial experience and Villa is not the place to start.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2062 on: June 07, 2011, 09:16:15 AM »
Doesn't matter re what they have. He is contracted to them, and I can't see him agitating the move.

Of course it matters. Its fundamental to his ability to push on in his career. The word on the street is that Everton are walking a tightrope of financial difficulty. After ten years I cant believe he's relishing another season of struggling through. Like any profession, managers will want the tools to do their job and prove themselves. He's not going to get that there. There's also the matter of things going stale.

I dont think its a matter of agitating a move either. He's been there so long and has the type of close relationship with Kenwright that it would be amicable.


I think you are overly optimistic. If Everton are in the difficulty they are in, Kenwright will be even more steely in his resolve to keep Moyes, who has been willing to sell the silver in times of trouble and still finish top 6-7 year after year in the league. To think he would let him got to Villa, a direct competitor essentially, with a handshake, a pat on the back and a beer, not a chance. Moyes would have to agitate big time, and we are not a big enough fish for him to do that.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2063 on: June 07, 2011, 09:17:55 AM »
Not safe for those of a melancholy disposition, it may push you over the edge.

The Express - Clicky


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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2064 on: June 07, 2011, 09:20:02 AM »
Doesn't matter re what they have. He is contracted to them, and I can't see him agitating the move.

Totally agree about Moyes

been at Everton nearly ten years and it's pretty much groundhog day every year. Start rubbish and finish between 6th and 8th

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2065 on: June 07, 2011, 09:25:36 AM »
Not safe for those of a melancholy disposition, it may push you over the edge.

The Express - Clicky



The only good thing about that article is the magnificent wordplay in the headline.

Its a scenario that is getting slightly worse day by day. Right now, I regret the fact that Houllier had to go, as I'm sure we'd have had a good season under him with interesting player developments.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2066 on: June 07, 2011, 09:26:07 AM »
Doesn't matter re what they have. He is contracted to them, and I can't see him agitating the move.

Of course it matters. Its fundamental to his ability to push on in his career. The word on the street is that Everton are walking a tightrope of financial difficulty. After ten years I cant believe he's relishing another season of struggling through. Like any profession, managers will want the tools to do their job and prove themselves. He's not going to get that there. There's also the matter of things going stale.

I dont think its a matter of agitating a move either. He's been there so long and has the type of close relationship with Kenwright that it would be amicable.


I think you are overly optimistic. If Everton are in the difficulty they are in, Kenwright will be even more steely in his resolve to keep Moyes, who has been willing to sell the silver in times of trouble and still finish top 6-7 year after year in the league. To think he would let him got to Villa, a direct competitor essentially, with a handshake, a pat on the back and a beer, not a chance. Moyes would have to agitate big time, and we are not a big enough fish for him to do that.

I didn't say he would be let go for nothing, neither did I say they would be happy about it. In fact, I clearly said the opposite. But that doesn't mean its impossible or even difficult to work something out.
It depends what you mean by agitate though. Obviously Moyes would have to want to leave. He wouldn't have to kick up a stink though. And yes, we are a big enough fish to tempt him away. I cant envisage a better offer coming in for him any time soon, put it that way.

Anyway, we'll see what happens but when he says something like "I want a club where I can give the fans something" or something, I think that's telling.
He's basically wrang every drop out of Everton to get them around the top 8 whereas you'd say we've been underperforming (or I would at least). As if Moyes wouldn't be looking on with envy at what O'Neill had to spend, at us buying the likes of Bent and thinking what he could do with such resources.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2067 on: June 07, 2011, 09:26:35 AM »
The papers are just recycling the same sketchy information that gets picked up elsewhere.

There's not a lot of football to write about at the moment other than manager stories.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2068 on: June 07, 2011, 09:28:44 AM »
Im in agreement with our Yank fan Tom Hanks who suggested Brian Clough!

well if McClarens in the frame ........

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #2069 on: June 07, 2011, 09:29:45 AM »
Doesn't matter re what they have. He is contracted to them, and I can't see him agitating the move.

Of course it matters. Its fundamental to his ability to push on in his career. The word on the street is that Everton are walking a tightrope of financial difficulty. After ten years I cant believe he's relishing another season of struggling through. Like any profession, managers will want the tools to do their job and prove themselves. He's not going to get that there. There's also the matter of things going stale.

I dont think its a matter of agitating a move either. He's been there so long and has the type of close relationship with Kenwright that it would be amicable.


I think you are overly optimistic. If Everton are in the difficulty they are in, Kenwright will be even more steely in his resolve to keep Moyes, who has been willing to sell the silver in times of trouble and still finish top 6-7 year after year in the league. To think he would let him got to Villa, a direct competitor essentially, with a handshake, a pat on the back and a beer, not a chance. Moyes would have to agitate big time, and we are not a big enough fish for him to do that.

I didn't say he would be let go for nothing, neither did I say they would be happy about it. In fact, I clearly said the opposite. But that doesn't mean its impossible or even difficult to work something out.
It depends what you mean by agitate though. Obviously Moyes would have to want to leave. He wouldn't have to kick up a stink though. And yes, we are a big enough fish to tempt him away. I cant envisage a better offer coming in for him any time soon, put it that way.

Anyway, we'll see what happens but when he says something like "I want a club where I can give the fans something" or something, I think that's telling.
He's basically wrang every drop out of Everton to get them around the top 8 whereas you'd say we've been underperforming (or I would at least). As if Moyes wouldn't be looking on with envy at what O'Neill had to spend, at us buying the likes of Bent and thinking what he could do with such resources.
Maybe so, but he would have to pointedly say he wants out. Short of the top 4, Man City and Spurs, he won't leave. We will see, but I am pretty confident it won't be Moyes.

 


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