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Author Topic: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll  (Read 2146385 times)

Offline CJ

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1425 on: June 04, 2011, 10:58:00 AM »
I think it would have been Hughes by now if he hadn't queered his own pitch by walking out on Fulham - in Randy's eyes 'doing an O'Neill' albeit with different timing. Haven't seen anything to convince me that Ancelotti's interested - unless he's playing his cards very close to his chest. That leaves Jol, FSW, and Schtevie in the unemployed bracket, or Martinez in the 'with club' as Moyes has apparently said no. SGT was talking up Schtevie's coaching skills on the Beeb yesterday, but that would be nightmare scenario for me. Not sure which FSW we'd get.  I'm still going for Jol - with Chris Hughton as assistant.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1426 on: June 04, 2011, 11:00:07 AM »
So, Situation, do you think it would be a great coup for us to prize away a manager who only avoided relegation by 2 places?
Agree with that.  Let someone else take a punt on him; if he turns out to be a gem then good luck to them.

All he has done with Wigan is avoid relegation which I'd imagine was his minimum target. He'll need to do a bit better either with them or a slightly bigger club before he should be considered for a job like Villa.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1427 on: June 04, 2011, 11:04:28 AM »
So, Situation, do you think it would be a great coup for us to prize away a manager who only avoided relegation by 2 places? If we miss out do you want us to go for the next best, Mick McCarthy?

I don't think Ancelotti would be interested in a club in our current position but it doesn't mean we have to go to the opposite extreme.


Martinez has only had 2 seasons at Wigan, every season people always have Wigan going down... Martinez is the tactical mastermind who has done really well with the resources given and in both seasons has achieved something. Got his team playing some good football and on both occasions his team has avoided relegation, especially this season when Wigan looked all but down with around 7/8 games to go. He never backed down, he always stuck with his footballing philosophy and eventually he got his reward, unlike McLeish for example.

Lets remember who's he's managing - Wigan Pathetic. Some pikey northern town where football isn't that popular, they're easily the most small-market team in the Prem.

He did the buisness at Wigan, remember he was a Championship manager until a couple of years ago - he's only just begun his quest but obviously at the same time he's still got a lot to prove. I do think Martinez has the potential - I can see it in his eyes.

People may say he might be out of his depth to manage the Villa... but mark my word, if we don't hire him as manager, in a few years time people will be banging there fists on here demanding why didn't go for Martinez when we had the chance.

Wally with the Brolly or Roberto 'mastermind' Martinez? I know who I would go for.

The man, the myth the Martinez
« Last Edit: June 04, 2011, 11:09:32 AM by The Situation »

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1428 on: June 04, 2011, 11:05:43 AM »
I would be happy with Jol and Hughton but would also punt on Martinez.
As someone else stated -which FSW would we get?

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1429 on: June 04, 2011, 11:07:01 AM »
I think it would have been Hughes by now if he hadn't queered his own pitch by walking out on Fulham - in Randy's eyes 'doing an O'Neill' albeit with different timing.

Was not quite the same. He did not walk out, but did not renew his contract in the small window of opportunity available to him. The reason you have clauses in contracts is so that they are available to use if you wish.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1430 on: June 04, 2011, 11:07:04 AM »
My claim to fame - I've played football for a few seconds against Roberto Martinez.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1431 on: June 04, 2011, 11:08:14 AM »
I'm in the Martinez camp now, as I said earlier I think he is somewhat hamstrung at Wigan due to players not really fancying it and a general lack of support that the club has. He's a believer in playing football the right way, which is where I would like to see us go.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1432 on: June 04, 2011, 11:10:37 AM »
Achieving something with Wigan is reaching mid table, staying up by the skin of your teeth is not.

If his name was Bob Martin he wouldn't get a second thought.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1433 on: June 04, 2011, 11:10:52 AM »
I think it would have been Hughes by now if he hadn't queered his own pitch by walking out on Fulham - in Randy's eyes 'doing an O'Neill' albeit with different timing.

Was not quite the same. He did not walk out, but did not renew his contract in the small window of opportunity available to him. The reason you have clauses in contracts is so that they are available to use if you wish.
But he has walked out though.
He has a two year contract with a break clause after 12 months.
He has exercised the break clause, and decided not to honour the remaining 12 months.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1434 on: June 04, 2011, 11:12:58 AM »
I'm in the Martinez camp now, as I said earlier I think he is somewhat hamstrung at Wigan due to players not really fancying it and a general lack of support that the club has. He's a believer in playing football the right way, which is where I would like to see us go.
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The Situation
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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1435 on: June 04, 2011, 11:14:36 AM »
Huge no to Roberto Martinez, yes he did well with Swansea but it was Brendan Rodgers that took them to the EPL. He plays pretty football yet Steve Bruce took Wigan a lot higher in the table.

I dont see us being linked with Rodgers or Bruce so why are we being linked with Martinez?

Martinez is nowhere near ready to be a manager of Aston Villa.

Benitez seems to be the best option really. 

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1436 on: June 04, 2011, 11:17:45 AM »
I think it would have been Hughes by now if he hadn't queered his own pitch by walking out on Fulham - in Randy's eyes 'doing an O'Neill' albeit with different timing.

Was not quite the same. He did not walk out, but did not renew his contract in the small window of opportunity available to him. The reason you have clauses in contracts is so that they are available to use if you wish.
Agree not identical although technically Hughes was still under contract. Having just in the last couple of weeks had insult added to injury by MON I think loyalty is even further up Randy's list of expectations and I think Hughes spoiled his chances by triggering that escape clause. Assuming either party was interested of course.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1437 on: June 04, 2011, 11:20:57 AM »
Huge no to Roberto Martinez, yes he did well with Swansea but it was Brendan Rodgers that took them to the EPL. He plays pretty football yet Steve Bruce took Wigan a lot higher in the table.

I dont see us being linked with Rodgers or Bruce so why are we being linked with Martinez?

Martinez is nowhere near ready to be a manager of Aston Villa.

Benitez seems to be the best option really. 
How did Benitez get on with Liverpool in the league?

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1438 on: June 04, 2011, 11:24:36 AM »
Achieving something with Wigan is reaching mid table, staying up by the skin of your teeth is not.

If his name was Bob Martin he wouldn't get a second thought.

His name or nationality has nothing to do with it  - His footballing philosophy does however.
To an extent he has been bankrolled by DW but I believe Wigan surviving in the top flight is an achievement given they are most pundits favourites to go down each year.

Hopefully Randy Lerner will be looking at many things and not just what is on a CV - Martinez is young, intelligent, has an eye for spotting talent and always gives an honest and fair opinion, post match.

If he or Jol were to be appointed I would be happy.

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ?
« Reply #1439 on: June 04, 2011, 11:25:07 AM »
Hughes at Fulham and Blackburn.

Pulis at Stoke.

Hodgson at Fulham and WBA.

Bruce at Wigan.

All managers who have taken clubs of similar size and resources to Wigan to better league placings.  The 'good football' argument does not wash when the results are poor. 

 


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