Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[Mortimer's Bear]

Roberto Martinez for me.

[UsualSuspect]

Going for Hughes while the likes of Ancelottii, Benitez and - to a lesser extent - Jol are available would be dreadfully uninspiring and an opportunity lost.

I'm sure he's a decent manager, I just think we should be looking to appoint a very good one.

This time we're looking for a manager at the best time, not the worst, let's get the best out of it.

Spot on. Hughes is the shitty car that follows the top gear lads round with them knowing they have to drive it if theirs dies. Essentially he is a fallback option. Better managers are out of work and should be approached. Such an uninspiring appointment if it comes to pass.

Spot on for me

[john e]

Hughes- would do a job, thats what he's always done, but thats about it,

dont think he's got anywhere near winning one of the domestic cups, so probably not a big priority for him, but for us maybe the only realistic thing we can win

[Chris Smith]

If we we were to make him an offer he couldn't refuse Ancelotti would arrive at Villa thinking he was doing us a favour and then jump ship as soon as a better offer came round. It's not the right type of appointment for where we are now.

We need a man who will be in it for the long haul, who has the desire to build his reputation rather than his bank balance.

[AsTallAsLions]

If we we were to make him an offer he couldn't refuse Ancelotti would arrive at Villa thinking he was doing us a favour and then jump ship as soon as a better offer came round. It's not the right type of appointment for where we are now.

We need a man who will be in it for the long haul, who has the desire to build his reputation rather than his bank balance.

Completely agree.

[john e]

If we we were to make him an offer he couldn't refuse Ancelotti would arrive at Villa thinking he was doing us a favour and then jump ship as soon as a better offer came round. It's not the right type of appointment for where we are now.

We need a man who will be in it for the long haul, who has the desire to build his reputation rather than his bank balance.

Completely agree.

i also agree with this,
 we need someone who will build long term, Ancelotti is not that man, although admittedly he would gain a few headlines and a bit of excitment for a while

 but as soon as he starts to see a bit of sucess he would be of somwhere else probably to one of Europes big clubs,

we would have to have a 'sticky' on who was the latest club linked with the manager

[hilts_coolerking]

I'm not sure there's any reason to believe Ancelotti would behave that way.  From what I have seen of him, he appears to be a thoroughly decent bloke who was spectacularly ill treated at Chelsea.  For what it's worth, I reckon he would have a burning desire to stay in England and show Chelsea how wrong they were.

If he was to eventually get a better offer from elsewhere that would mean he had done a very good job with us, which is the whole point right?  And we could cross that bridge if / when we came to it.  In any case, that situation would apply to any manager we appointed.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

No to Hughes or McClaren. Yes to Moyes or Ancelloti.

Spot on for me Markeeee!
The first two suggest mid-table "safe" bets, the latter suggest ambition by Randy and the board and this would surely send out a strong message to present and possible future players. And us!

[Merv]

Can't compare moyes and Hughes really. Hughes has no track record apart from  failing miserably at being a chequebook manager. Yeah he did ok at Blackburn but they were horrible horrible team with no redeeming features.

Really? I think they're ideal to compare. Other than that one season when Everton finished 4th, Moyes has spent nine seasons keeping Everton around the top six/top half - and fought relegation twice. Hughes' track record compares fairly well; yes, his Blackburn team were uncompromising and tough but he worked with what he had, took them to 6th/7th, European football, won the League Cup.

He didn't fail as a chequebook manager. He made some good signings at City, started the process going, and was unlucky to be sacked. Can't see that Mancini has done anything Hughes wouldn't have done, given the same transfer budget.

At Fulham, 8th is very respectable, again given the resources at his disposal.

Moyes and Hughes: both very good at working with players, getting the best out of them, renowned for building hard-working, well organised teams, similar ages, both with bad hair. Neither are my first choice, but what I'm saying is I can't understand those who'd welcome Moyes with open arms but stand bitterly opposed to Hughes.

[Nev]

Hughes has not won anything. Souness was manager when Blackburn won the League Cup in 2002.

[Oscar Arce]

Moyes has done superbly with no real money, is well organised defensively first, experienced, dour, a man of few words, speaks his mind, and is an (adopted) scouser.
The last bloke with those credentials didn't do too badly.
My second choice would be Jol...please not Mark Hughes.

[Concrete John]

Neither are my first choice, but what I'm saying is I can't understand those who'd welcome Moyes with open arms but stand bitterly opposed to Hughes.

When you look at the respective records, that's a fair point.

For me the difference is I see a top manager in the making in Moyes.  Well regarded by Taggart, who knows a thing or two about the subject, and has proved by his longevity at Everton that he has loyalty and can build something.  With Hughes, I think he seems to come in and do well, then moves on again.  Bit of a 'journeyman manager' and I think longterm Moyes would be better for us.
   

[Chris Smith]

I'm not sure there's any reason to believe Ancelotti would behave that way.  From what I have seen of him, he appears to be a thoroughly decent bloke who was spectacularly ill treated at Chelsea.  For what it's worth, I reckon he would have a burning desire to stay in England and show Chelsea how wrong they were.

If he was to eventually get a better offer from elsewhere that would mean he had done a very good job with us, which is the whole point right?  And we could cross that bridge if / when we came to it.  In any case, that situation would apply to any manager we appointed.

He'd get a better offer because of his previous reputation, what he did while slumming it with us wouldn't come into it.

We're a club that has to rebuild a squad while reducing the wage bill. He's not the man for the job.

[nick harper]

Can't compare moyes and Hughes really. Hughes has no track record apart from  failing miserably at being a chequebook manager. Yeah he did ok at Blackburn but they were horrible horrible team with no redeeming features.

Really? I think they're ideal to compare. Other than that one season when Everton finished 4th, Moyes has spent nine seasons keeping Everton around the top six/top half - and fought relegation twice. Hughes' track record compares fairly well; yes, his Blackburn team were uncompromising and tough but he worked with what he had, took them to 6th/7th, European football, won the League Cup.

He didn't fail as a chequebook manager. He made some good signings at City, started the process going, and was unlucky to be sacked. Can't see that Mancini has done anything Hughes wouldn't have done, given the same transfer budget.

At Fulham, 8th is very respectable, again given the resources at his disposal.

Moyes and Hughes: both very good at working with players, getting the best out of them, renowned for building hard-working, well organised teams, similar ages, both with bad hair. Neither are my first choice, but what I'm saying is I can't understand those who'd welcome Moyes with open arms but stand bitterly opposed to Hughes.

Agree Merv, I'd also argue that as Hughes experience has increased, his sides have become easier on the eye and played a less direct game than Everton. I think he would be good for us.

[Greg N'Ash]

well thats just it really. Moyes did what Hughes couldn't with half the money. They didn't stay there but then Citeh will struggle to stay in the CL with the extra games as spurs did To me in their best season, everton have been a top striker short of getting into the CL again but he's never had the money to do that. We know he can build the rest of the team, someone like bent to give him a cutting edge could just be the key. I'd also say he's never adopted the sort of tactics Hughes has, even when they were struggling