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Author Topic: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released  (Read 45522 times)

Offline Big Dick Edwards

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #135 on: May 28, 2011, 12:36:54 PM »
I don't know how much he thinks he's worth but if no-one else is prepared to pay him what he wants either, I wouldn't write off the prospect of Reo-Coker re-signing for us later this summer.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #136 on: May 28, 2011, 12:48:19 PM »
Arguably the value of something is how much it would cost to replace it. Would we prefer NRC to stay, even if only as a squad player rather than a first choice? I would. So how much would we have to pay to replace him? Okay, that's very subjective since views as to his ability vary so much, but if it's a transfer fee of £4m and £25k per week then in theory we could afford to give him a 4 year contract of £45k per week. If he's asked for a lot more, then good luck elsewhere NRC. I just hope we've let him go because we have identified an upgrade.

This was the theory when Bosmans first started. It soon became clear that if you give a player lots of money because he's on a free then a) he'll be happy to sit around doing nothing until his contract runs out and you can't get rid because nobody else will pay him that much (Hadji, Kachloul) and b) giving a massive rise to one player means everyone else wants the same (Carbone).

I thinks thats a bit of a cynical view really. Most players apart from a few complete wasters want to play as even if they're totally motivated by money they realise their next contract won't be worth much if they haven't played for 2 seasons.

NRC was basically kicked to the curb by MON early on and would have been a bit part player at the most if MON had stayed. given those circumstances and the fact he probably hasn't got particulary fond memories of his time at Villa i'm not surprised he's looking elsewhere and lets be honest he's probably been talking to other clubs since January.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #137 on: May 28, 2011, 01:22:41 PM »
I reckon NRC  will head back south. Fulham ? QPR ? Reading if they win the play-off ?

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #138 on: May 28, 2011, 01:34:21 PM »
None of these, except for NRC have had any first team impact last season, so there's no loss. NRC only stepped up for the last few weeks. NRC is at best an average / limited player not suited to how we intend to play. I expect Delph to step up and take his place.

We can add A Young, Warnock, Beye & Heskey (hopefully) to that list which releases some cash for young / hungry replacements. 

We need to remember that GH won't limit his search to the UK.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #139 on: May 28, 2011, 01:40:18 PM »
Odd that when Downing with two years left says he won't sign a new contract he's vilified yet the far inferior Reo Coker is praised when walking away for fuck all.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #140 on: May 28, 2011, 01:44:21 PM »
Im not praising him , Im glad hes gone. Still cant believe MON spent 8.5 million on him..

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #141 on: May 28, 2011, 01:46:51 PM »
Odd that when Downing with two years left says he won't sign a new contract he's vilified yet the far inferior Reo Coker is praised when walking away for fuck all.


totally different situation i think. NRC was dumped on the scrapheap by the last boss. He's been back in favour this season but a) he has no idea if he figures in GH plans and b) whether the guy will be here in a week and he's faced with a new manager who doesn't want him.

Given the above, if a club or manager who really want him have been in contact i'm not surprised he's cut his losses.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #142 on: May 28, 2011, 01:55:50 PM »
Cut his losses! Do me a favour, he's a wealthy man gone to make himself even more wealthy and not even the excuse of wanting champions league to fall back on.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #143 on: May 28, 2011, 02:01:34 PM »
thats your opinion chris but i think many people who be wary of signing a new contract with a club if they'd spent much of the last 4 years not playing.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #144 on: May 28, 2011, 02:02:29 PM »
Odd that when Downing with two years left says he won't sign a new contract he's vilified yet the far inferior Reo Coker is praised when walking away for fuck all.

Why, Chris? You'll have to explain that one because it sounds as if you're sympathising with an England international who is in demand by several clubs who is refusing to commit to his present club, who have single-handedly made him one of the most sought-after PL players this summer; on the other hand it sounds like you're criticizing a player who wasn't offered a deal at a club and now has to look elsewhere with no guarantee of employment.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #145 on: May 28, 2011, 02:17:47 PM »
ATAL, it does help to be at least a little bit informed before wading in. He was out of contract because he turned down our offers no doubt aware through his agent of where he'll be playing next season. By doing it this way the money that the next club might have had to spend on a transfer fee will go in his pocket instead.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #146 on: May 28, 2011, 02:18:53 PM »
Odd that when Downing with two years left says he won't sign a new contract he's vilified yet the far inferior Reo Coker is praised when walking away for fuck all.

Agree. It is very strange.

For the last few weeks NRC has been going on about moves to big Italian clubs and has never seemed to make much reference to staying at Villa. He probably made his mind up ages ago in the (probably misguided) belief that he could make a move to a bigger club. He had his eye more clearly on the exit than Downing does now.

I don't believe this has anything to do with lingering resentment towards his treatment under MoN. At the end of the day he had regular first team football under the previous management. The one thing this has to do with is Nigel Reo Coker and his bank balance.

At least Downing will get a move to a bigger and better club.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #147 on: May 28, 2011, 03:14:15 PM »
Odd that when Downing with two years left says he won't sign a new contract he's vilified yet the far inferior Reo Coker is praised when walking away for fuck all.

Why, Chris? You'll have to explain that one because it sounds as if you're sympathising with an England international who is in demand by several clubs who is refusing to commit to his present club, who have single-handedly made him one of the most sought-after PL players this summer; on the other hand it sounds like you're criticizing a player who wasn't offered a deal at a club and now has to look elsewhere with no guarantee of employment.

I doubt he'll be signing on.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #148 on: May 28, 2011, 03:30:31 PM »
on the other hand it sounds like you're criticizing a player who wasn't offered a deal at a club
God only knows which player you're talking about here.

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Re: NRC, Pires and Carew amongst Ten Players Released
« Reply #149 on: May 28, 2011, 03:56:58 PM »
ATAL, it does help to be at least a little bit informed before wading in. He was out of contract because he turned down our offers no doubt aware through his agent of where he'll be playing next season. By doing it this way the money that the next club might have had to spend on a transfer fee will go in his pocket instead.

That's "informed" is it? Maybe his agent should share the info with his client because as of yesterday, despite his wedding proposal acceptance, he was very sad to be leaving us. My 'guess' is he doesn't know where he'll be playing next season. Or is "informed" the fact that agents are greedy?

 


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