Downing has scored a few coming to the back post from the LEFT wing.
Don't forget we got poor result in midlands derbies (all 3 plus Stoke)2 win 3 draws and 3 defeat. That is 9 out of 24 points. so this lack of form in Midlands Derby say we got extra 10 points we could be 5th.
Quote from: Salsa Party Animal on May 22, 2011, 10:09:16 PMDon't forget we got poor result in midlands derbies (all 3 plus Stoke)2 win 3 draws and 3 defeat. That is 9 out of 24 points. so this lack of form in Midlands Derby say we got extra 10 points we could be 5th.It's an interesting point, and one that often gets overlooked in 'isn't it great to have the local derbies again' type threads.The more local sides in the top flight, the harder it is for us. The local peasants raise their game and know that even if they have a shite season they'll get lionised for beating us.Whereas clubs of similar status as that lot (ie shite) but from another part of the country don't have quite the same obsession with us. Making it's somewhat easier to pick up points in what tends to be low key games.
Quote from: KevinGage on May 22, 2011, 11:47:43 PMQuote from: Salsa Party Animal on May 22, 2011, 10:09:16 PMDon't forget we got poor result in midlands derbies (all 3 plus Stoke)2 win 3 draws and 3 defeat. That is 9 out of 24 points. so this lack of form in Midlands Derby say we got extra 10 points we could be 5th.It's an interesting point, and one that often gets overlooked in 'isn't it great to have the local derbies again' type threads.The more local sides in the top flight, the harder it is for us. The local peasants raise their game and know that even if they have a shite season they'll get lionised for beating us.Whereas clubs of similar status as that lot (ie shite) but from another part of the country don't have quite the same obsession with us. Making it's somewhat easier to pick up points in what tends to be low key games.When we the league in 80-81 we had to play Small Heath (won both), Albion (D, W), Wolves (W, W), Cov (W,W), Leicester (W, W), Stoke (W, D) & Forest (D, W).
We're unbeaten in 8 league games against the Championship side, Wolves beat us for the first time in what, 30 years? And WBA for the frst time in about 25 years. So i'd hazard a guess that our derby record is pretty impressive. And shit clubs of similar size from other parts of the country, do you mean like Wigan?
I wonder if our much-bemoaned lack of commercial income is anything to do with having to compete with three other Premier League clubs for the West Midlands corporate pound?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on May 23, 2011, 01:09:13 AMI wonder if our much-bemoaned lack of commercial income is anything to do with having to compete with three other Premier League clubs for the West Midlands corporate pound? But what was the reason for the 2 decades when we were the only top flight side in the West Midlands? I'm no expert on figures but it's always struck me that our commercial income is pretty poor considering our size, regardless of who else is or isn't in the top flight.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 23, 2011, 12:38:22 AMWe're unbeaten in 8 league games against the Championship side, Wolves beat us for the first time in what, 30 years? And WBA for the frst time in about 25 years. So i'd hazard a guess that our derby record is pretty impressive. And shit clubs of similar size from other parts of the country, do you mean like Wigan? Even if they don't beat us often (and I'll concede that most of them can't claim that) they're often more than capable of frustrating us with turgid draws. If we're having in any way promising seasons, they celebrate that as much as actual victories.Plus on the odd occasion they do win it's far more unbearable than being turned over by Wigan.Sorry, you haven't convinced me. I still say we're far better off being the only gig in town.