Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on May 22, 2011, 07:33:37 PM
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Downing scoring was the difference between ninth and 14th in the final table. That earned us about about £4million-odd in prize money.
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Half of Ben Foster's fee sorted out then...
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First and last goals of the season were scored by Downing from pretty much identical positions.
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Yeah but no but yeah but no. Gabbys at West Ham has gotta be up there. Without it the end of the season would have had a whole different dynamic to it. Prior to Arsenal it was still a bit iffy to say the least. So that one might have been worth the 75-90 million that relegation is generally deemed to cost a club. I know you could sort of pick any winning goal but at that stage of the season it was absolutely vital.
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Fantastic move from beginning to end. Wonderful football.
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First and last goals of the season were scored by Downing from pretty much identical positions.
As it went in I was saying to my lad about him coming in on the far post - we did this effectively early on in the season as well
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He had a great game today.
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It's a handy windfall and we did well today.
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I did not see the goal, so I'm guessing here, but playing 433 shouldnean that the wingers are on the end of a few crosses.
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I think Peter Withe would have a thing or two to say about this thread.
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I am with Clarrie Blue on this one. Gabby's last gasp winner was in my opinion the point at which our fortunes changed. Almost as important was Darren getting a goal in his first game against Man City and winning the game for us. Can you imagine the stick we and he would have got in the media if he had been goalless for a few games?
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How should we spend the extra 4 million in money for finishing ninth today??? Could we pay off Ireland and Beye!
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I didn't say it was the greatest or most significant, but in terms of what it meant in a stand-alone manner Downing's goal today was our most valuable ever.
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Don't forget we got poor result in midlands derbies (all 3 plus Stoke)
2 win 3 draws and 3 defeat. That is 9 out of 24 points. so this lack of form in Midlands Derby say we got extra 10 points we could be 5th.
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Downing has scored a few coming to the back post from the LEFT wing.
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A quiz question for the future, pleased for the lad. Good way to celebrate being player of the season
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Downing has scored a few coming to the back post from the LEFT wing.
Mostly from Albrighton balls in.
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Downing has scored a few coming to the back post from the LEFT wing.
He must have read my post on here last week. Good lad.
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Don't forget we got poor result in midlands derbies (all 3 plus Stoke)
2 win 3 draws and 3 defeat. That is 9 out of 24 points. so this lack of form in Midlands Derby say we got extra 10 points we could be 5th.
It's an interesting point, and one that often gets overlooked in 'isn't it great to have the local derbies again' type threads.
The more local sides in the top flight, the harder it is for us. The local peasants raise their game and know that even if they have a shite season they'll get lionised for beating us.
Whereas clubs of similar status as that lot (ie shite) but from another part of the country don't have quite the same obsession with us. Making it's somewhat easier to pick up points in what tends to be low key games.
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Don't forget we got poor result in midlands derbies (all 3 plus Stoke)
2 win 3 draws and 3 defeat. That is 9 out of 24 points. so this lack of form in Midlands Derby say we got extra 10 points we could be 5th.
It's an interesting point, and one that often gets overlooked in 'isn't it great to have the local derbies again' type threads.
The more local sides in the top flight, the harder it is for us. The local peasants raise their game and know that even if they have a shite season they'll get lionised for beating us.
Whereas clubs of similar status as that lot (ie shite) but from another part of the country don't have quite the same obsession with us. Making it's somewhat easier to pick up points in what tends to be low key games.
When we the league in 80-81 we had to play Small Heath (won both), Albion (D, W), Wolves (W, W), Cov (W,W), Leicester (W, W), Stoke (W, D) & Forest (D, W).
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We're unbeaten in 8 league games against the Championship side, Wolves beat us for the first time in what, 30 years? And WBA for the frst time in about 25 years. So i'd hazard a guess that our derby record is pretty impressive.
And shit clubs of similar size from other parts of the country, do you mean like Wigan?
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Don't forget we got poor result in midlands derbies (all 3 plus Stoke)
2 win 3 draws and 3 defeat. That is 9 out of 24 points. so this lack of form in Midlands Derby say we got extra 10 points we could be 5th.
It's an interesting point, and one that often gets overlooked in 'isn't it great to have the local derbies again' type threads.
The more local sides in the top flight, the harder it is for us. The local peasants raise their game and know that even if they have a shite season they'll get lionised for beating us.
Whereas clubs of similar status as that lot (ie shite) but from another part of the country don't have quite the same obsession with us. Making it's somewhat easier to pick up points in what tends to be low key games.
When we the league in 80-81 we had to play Small Heath (won both), Albion (D, W), Wolves (W, W), Cov (W,W), Leicester (W, W), Stoke (W, D) & Forest (D, W).
And that's great.
One league championship in the last hundred years. Are you seriously suggesting that lone example means we're better off having the beggars in the same league as us?
Give me easier fixtures with more chance of a Villa win any day of the week.
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I'm fine with most derbys, but not that one. Glad they're gone, hopefully Europe stretches their resources and they struggle to come back up.
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We're unbeaten in 8 league games against the Championship side, Wolves beat us for the first time in what, 30 years? And WBA for the frst time in about 25 years. So i'd hazard a guess that our derby record is pretty impressive.
And shit clubs of similar size from other parts of the country, do you mean like Wigan?
Even if they don't beat us often (and I'll concede that most of them can't claim that) they're often more than capable of frustrating us with turgid draws. If we're having in any way promising seasons, they celebrate that as much as actual victories.
Plus on the odd occasion they do win it's far more unbearable than being turned over by Wigan.
Sorry, you haven't convinced me. I still say we're far better off being the only gig in town.
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I wonder if our much-bemoaned lack of commercial income is anything to do with having to compete with three other Premier League clubs for the West Midlands corporate pound?
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I wonder if our much-bemoaned lack of commercial income is anything to do with having to compete with three other Premier League clubs for the West Midlands corporate pound?
But what was the reason for the 2 decades when we were the only top flight side in the West Midlands?
I'm no expert on figures but it's always struck me that our commercial income is pretty poor considering our size, regardless of who else is or isn't in the top flight.
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I wonder if our much-bemoaned lack of commercial income is anything to do with having to compete with three other Premier League clubs for the West Midlands corporate pound?
But what was the reason for the 2 decades when we were the only top flight side in the West Midlands?
I'm no expert on figures but it's always struck me that our commercial income is pretty poor considering our size, regardless of who else is or isn't in the top flight.
Having a commercial department who thought being in the Premier League meant they didn't have to try.
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We're unbeaten in 8 league games against the Championship side, Wolves beat us for the first time in what, 30 years? And WBA for the frst time in about 25 years. So i'd hazard a guess that our derby record is pretty impressive.
And shit clubs of similar size from other parts of the country, do you mean like Wigan?
Even if they don't beat us often (and I'll concede that most of them can't claim that) they're often more than capable of frustrating us with turgid draws. If we're having in any way promising seasons, they celebrate that as much as actual victories.
Plus on the odd occasion they do win it's far more unbearable than being turned over by Wigan.
Sorry, you haven't convinced me. I still say we're far better off being the only gig in town.
Don't get me wrong Kevin, I don't like having the feckers in the same division as us, but my point was results based and on that we've probably taken more off those 3 over the past 5 years or so than we have say Fulham, Wigan and Bolton over the same amount of fixtures.
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It probably has a bearing.
Even football fans who have a degree of sense and don't go the same route as their B-lose or Olbiyun loving parents won't completely blackball themselves by supporting the Villa.
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Was right behind the goal when Downing scored. Very well taken goal indeed.
Downing has been superb this season.
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I was just waiting for the inevitable late Liverpool equaliser and our tumble back down to 14th. 9th is the highest we've been since when I wonder...after we beat Blackpool in November?
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I'm very happy with our additional cash windfall. Randy deserves a bit of good news after all he's had to put up with this season.
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I didn't say it was the greatest or most significant, but in terms of what it meant in a stand-alone manner Downing's goal today was our most valuable ever.
We understood.
I hope that the summer is as exciting as it needs to be. Another summer of MON style scrambling around at the last minute could spell curtains.
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Great goal!
Enough to pay for Heskeys wages this season.
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Is Mon still in charge then USAV ?
To finish 9 th after all the internal strife the club has suffered this season is a marvellous result.
If you have to find doom and gloom at one of the few high points of the season, consider what can be done to rid the club of so many useless high earners and equally how we can hold on to the genuine class we have.
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Yeah but no but yeah but no. Gabbys at West Ham has gotta be up there. Without it the end of the season would have had a whole different dynamic to it. Prior to Arsenal it was still a bit iffy to say the least. So that one might have been worth the 75-90 million that relegation is generally deemed to cost a club. I know you could sort of pick any winning goal but at that stage of the season it was absolutely vital.
Agreed.
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I saw a table on sky yesterday with all the prize money we ended up with over £9m
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I'm also happy with the extra prize money we got for fininshing 9th hopefully we can bring the right players in to push us on and I'm pleased for Stewart Downing to get the goal that beat Liverpool our player of a some what difficult season.