The future of Houllier and McAllister?

[Matt C]

The club said it would be resolved within two weeks of the end of the season, we're only halfway through that time and I have no reason to believe they will not honour their pledge.

[Villanation]

The point I'm making is one that's not based on his record last season, or his ability, its his physical and mental state that to me says, no can do. Regardless of what these medical blokes say because they are not going to be there on the touch line, when we have our backs to the wall facing some scouse onslaught in a game, needing our manager to be going frantic at the lads to step it up, and he simply can't do it, he can't get involved.

Mr Houllier resigned from Liverpool on health and stepped down from Lyon because of pressure from the chairman for poor performance saying he was exhausted and needed a break.

This heart problem he has is one that is normally congenital (This is a defect in the aorta, the main artery that carries oxygen-rich blood to the body. In a healthy heart, the aorta is attached to the left ventricle. This allows only oxygen-rich blood to flow to the body.
In tetralogy of Fallot, the aorta is between the left and right ventricles, directly over the VSD. As a result, oxygen-poor blood from the right ventricle flows directly into the aorta instead of into the pulmonary artery to the lungs. Problems can occur when a greater flow of a blood/oxygen mix is required beyond the normal flow rate.)

The only point I'm making is, we have got over the MON era and the hangover that gave us, we now need a management team in place with a 5 year plan, the club needs that, the players need that (definably) and I think the fans need it IMO, also, surely Lerner needs it if he is about to invest further countless millions on rebuilding a side that may well be about to be ripped apart in the transfer market, thing is Houllier simply can't do that. IMO.

Excellent post Villanation - concurring.

Sounds good, copied directly from the Interweb, but sounds good.

I am a 5Th year med, specializing in Vascular surgery and hoping to qualify with honours in that field, I do know a tad about it, not much mind 

Villa fans are allowed a brain......

[E I Adio]

The point I'm making is one that's not based on his record last season, or his ability, its his physical and mental state that to me says, no can do. Regardless of what these medical blokes say because they are not going to be there on the touch line, when we have our backs to the wall facing some scouse onslaught in a game, needing our manager to be going frantic at the lads to step it up, and he simply can't do it, he can't get involved.

Mr Houllier resigned from Liverpool on health and stepped down from Lyon because of pressure from the chairman for poor performance saying he was exhausted and needed a break.

This heart problem he has is one that is normally congenital (This is a defect in the aorta, the main artery that carries oxygen-rich blood to the body. In a healthy heart, the aorta is attached to the left ventricle. This allows only oxygen-rich blood to flow to the body.
In tetralogy of Fallot, the aorta is between the left and right ventricles, directly over the VSD. As a result, oxygen-poor blood from the right ventricle flows directly into the aorta instead of into the pulmonary artery to the lungs. Problems can occur when a greater flow of a blood/oxygen mix is required beyond the normal flow rate.)

The only point I'm making is, we have got over the MON era and the hangover that gave us, we now need a management team in place with a 5 year plan, the club needs that, the players need that (definably) and I think the fans need it IMO, also, surely Lerner needs it if he is about to invest further countless millions on rebuilding a side that may well be about to be ripped apart in the transfer market, thing is Houllier simply can't do that. IMO.

Excellent post Villanation - concurring.

Sounds good, copied directly from the Interweb, but sounds good.

I am a 5Th year med, specializing in Vascular surgery and hoping to qualify with honours in that field, I do know a tad about it, not much mind 

Villa fans are allowed a brain......

Good to hear, so perhaps you would clear something up that's puzzling me. Why when all the reports that I've seen concerning GH's condition have stated that he was suffering  from aortic dissection, do you say that his condition is now tetralogy of Fallot? Are they related or does one condition pre-dispose to another? Genuinely curious.

[TheSandman]

To be fair the 1st of June gives plenty of time to get an appointment sorted and new players in. I mean it's not like we are delaying a decision until 9th of August or some similar ridiculously late point.

[Villanation]

The point I'm making is one that's not based on his record last season, or his ability, its his physical and mental state that to me says, no can do. Regardless of what these medical blokes say because they are not going to be there on the touch line, when we have our backs to the wall facing some scouse onslaught in a game, needing our manager to be going frantic at the lads to step it up, and he simply can't do it, he can't get involved.

Mr Houllier resigned from Liverpool on health and stepped down from Lyon because of pressure from the chairman for poor performance saying he was exhausted and needed a break.

This heart problem he has is one that is normally congenital (This is a defect in the aorta, the main artery that carries oxygen-rich blood to the body. In a healthy heart, the aorta is attached to the left ventricle. This allows only oxygen-rich blood to flow to the body.
In tetralogy of Fallot, the aorta is between the left and right ventricles, directly over the VSD. As a result, oxygen-poor blood from the right ventricle flows directly into the aorta instead of into the pulmonary artery to the lungs. Problems can occur when a greater flow of a blood/oxygen mix is required beyond the normal flow rate.)

The only point I'm making is, we have got over the MON era and the hangover that gave us, we now need a management team in place with a 5 year plan, the club needs that, the players need that (definably) and I think the fans need it IMO, also, surely Lerner needs it if he is about to invest further countless millions on rebuilding a side that may well be about to be ripped apart in the transfer market, thing is Houllier simply can't do that. IMO.

Excellent post Villanation - concurring.

Sounds good, copied directly from the Interweb, but sounds good.

I am a 5Th year med, specializing in Vascular surgery and hoping to qualify with honours in that field, I do know a tad about it, not much mind 

Villa fans are allowed a brain......

Good to hear, so perhaps you would clear something up that's puzzling me. Why when all the reports that I've seen concerning GH's condition have stated that he was suffering  from aortic dissection, do you say that his condition is now tetralogy of Fallot? Are they related or does one condition pre-dispose to another? Genuinely curious.

I'm assuming he as already undergone tetralogy of fallot in correction as the option taken up for what I assume would be a congenital heart problem, if GH has exhibited progressive aortic root dilatation which may lead to reguritation and predispose to dissection and rupture which can be fatal, but very unlikely in GH's case, thus necessitating aortic valve and aortic root surgery.

What may have happened is a kind of overload of the of the ventricle pass and that could have caused the problem to reoccur, I did mention the administration of beta blockers previously but this is questionable as to its success. Hope this help, I'm a wizard with in-growing toe nails 

Next patient please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

[Legion]

In English, please?

[Villanation]

In English, please?

Fair enough............................


He's frickin Knackered.... 

[villa `cross the mersey]

If its of any consequence, a mate of mine who was involved in Houllier`s initial Op said he should bloody well retire and enjoy the rest of his life !!

[Rudy Can't Fail]

If its of any consequence, a mate of mine who was involved in Houllier`s initial Op said he should bloody well retire and enjoy the rest of his life !!

Ambulance driver? (winky)

[Eigentor]

From The Daily Mail:

Aston Villa boss Gerard Houllier faces final test over £5m pay-off

Gerard Houllier is one medical test away from giving Aston Villa owner Randy Lerner a £5million problem.

Villa’s manager has been given the all-clear to return to work by three out of four independent examinations following his heart problems.

A clean bill of health in his final check-up will leave Lerner unable to terminate Houllier’s deal on the grounds of ill-health, which would have led to a far smaller pay-out.

Aware of Villa fans dislike of Houllier, if the American decides to axe the former Liverpool boss he is due a £5m pay-out in a deal struck less than 12 months ago.

Lerner has only just ended his dispute with former manager Martin O’Neill following a Premier League arbitration panel decision.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Only the drama queens 'dislike' him. Oh and those that still haven't got over the fact that the c**t has gone. The rest of us are still open minded.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'll be very surprised if he is still our manager this time next week.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I'll be very surprised if he's still our manager this week, Paulie.

[Holte L2]

Only the drama queens 'dislike' him. Oh and those that still haven't got over the fact that the c**t has gone. The rest of us are still open minded.

I don't like him. Having been too 38 games this season I'm certainly not a drama queen. Nor do I give a shit about O'neill. I just want a manager that thinks were better than 12th.

[dave.woodhall]

Only the drama queens 'dislike' him. Oh and those that still haven't got over the fact that the c**t has gone. The rest of us are still open minded.

I don't like him. Having been too 38 games this season I'm certainly not a drama queen. Nor do I give a shit about O'neill. I just want a manager that thinks were better than 12th.

Find me a manager who doesn't.