The future of Houllier and McAllister?

[dave.woodhall]

Sorry Dave are you for real.

Villa park and Bodymoor Heath have been one embarrassment after another this season

Sorry kid, but this is nothing to do with "something I don't agree with".

This is,  Aston Villa Football Club going from one crisis to another in a season that has been worse than any I can remember since Billy McNeill (far worse than GT2 and worse than DOL)

Now, after suffering the boos , banners , national radio phone ins and we all know what after our manager making a total embarrassment and laughing stock after visiting Anfield in November, people seem happy to let the club maybe put themselves into a position that it will happen again.

And why ? - you tell me one bloody reason Houllier needs to attend the game. He won't be anywhere near the changing room , dug out, players, officials, anything. He will be the only wya he can isitting in the stands with you and I - the only way he can influence anything on the pitch is if he streaks !

So why on earth put ourselves in the position that fans will be more interested on how Houllier reacts to any chants from Scouse fans than what is occurring on the pitch.

If he comes back in August as manager and we have 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' first game , that is different, he is MANAGER

Next week, he is there as "OBSERVER" - and can I ask why he intends to observe the game against the club he loves - not tomorrow.

Only he knows - but why even put yourself , and the club in the position of wondering.

Sorry mate, yet another bad move from a club that has had one bad move after another this season.

Th club is a farce at the moment, the worst I have EVER seen it. And that includes all the dark days I have seen.  So dont say I am the embarrassment.

lSometimes loving someone means telling the truth - not sticking your head in the sand believing and accepting everything the person you love does.

Yes, embarrassment sums it up nicely.

[Steve67]

Dave Woodhall, what the fuck are you on about?  Are you happy with the season? Happy with the poor press the club has had?  Lot's of positives in there for you to take from this season?  At least explain why you think the Aston Villa fans are an embarrassment?  You know, those people who buy your shit fanzine?

[spangley1812]

Bye Newby..........

[Steve67]

Bye Newby..........

What's that?  How dare I question someone who calls his own fans an embarrassment, that includes you too. He needs to qualify why he makes that statement.

[Dave Cooper please]

He's calling certain dummy-spitting, melodramatic drama queens an embarrasment, which they certainly are.

[Louzie0]

Dave Woodhall, what the fuck are you on about?  Are you happy with the season? Happy with the poor press the club has had?  Lot's of positives in there for you to take from this season?  At least explain why you think the Aston Villa fans are an embarrassment?  You know, those people who buy your shit fanzine?

Just read your little tag line on the bottom of your post.  Nice use of irony...oh.

[luke95]

 

Bye Newby..........

What's that?  How dare I question someone who calls his own fans an embarrassment, that includes you too. He needs to qualify why he makes that statement.

He's Dave Woodhall, He'll do what he wants.

[dave.woodhall]

I think Dave Cooper just said it all. I get annoyed, pissed off and angry when the team play badly. The embarassment comes when the foot-stamping begins and certain supporters start demanding their own way and behaving as though we have some divine right to success. 

[holtepaul]

Dave,

Without getting into a personal argment here, I have seen you many many many many times on the TV "demanding the club do things"

I also seem to remember a certain magazine making someone money  , having read it, I can confirm most of it is full of the writer "demanding things"

As I say, no offence, but people in glass houses and all that.

[dave.woodhall]

Dave,

Without getting into a personal argment here, I have seen you many many many many times on the TV "demanding the club do things"

I also seem to remember a certain magazine making someone money  , having read it, I can confirm most of it is full of the writer "demanding things"

As I say, no offence, but people in glass houses and all that.

Which of the hundreds of writers was that?

It's not about 'demanding things'; it's about a season that has been for the most part shite - albeit with several mitigating circumstances - but has certainly not been worse than several others we've endured without the sort of hysteria prevalent this time round. Maybe it's an internet thing, or the modern demand for instant success, but I can't remember a time before when our own supporters have been our fiercest and most relentless abusers. That banner, some of what's been said about the manager and the abuse given to the general and Randy on several occasions has been embarassing to witness.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

This thread now reminds me of the cup final last year when a fight broke out between a few Villa fans right in front of me towards the end of the match.

Seems like we're always getting on happily with each other - oh happy days!!!

[paul_e]

Sorry Dave are you for real.

Villa park and Bodymoor Heath have been one embarrassment after another this season

Sorry kid, but this is nothing to do with "something I don't agree with".

This is,  Aston Villa Football Club going from one crisis to another in a season that has been worse than any I can remember since Billy McNeill (far worse than GT2 and worse than DOL)

Now, after suffering the boos , banners , national radio phone ins and we all know what after our manager making a total embarrassment and laughing stock after visiting Anfield in November, people seem happy to let the club maybe put themselves into a position that it will happen again.

And why ? - you tell me one bloody reason Houllier needs to attend the game. He won't be anywhere near the changing room , dug out, players, officials, anything. He will be the only wya he can isitting in the stands with you and I - the only way he can influence anything on the pitch is if he streaks !

So why on earth put ourselves in the position that fans will be more interested on how Houllier reacts to any chants from Scouse fans than what is occurring on the pitch.

If he comes back in August as manager and we have 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' first game , that is different, he is MANAGER

Next week, he is there as "OBSERVER" - and can I ask why he intends to observe the game against the club he loves - not tomorrow.

Only he knows - but why even put yourself , and the club in the position of wondering.

Sorry mate, yet another bad move from a club that has had one bad move after another this season.

Th club is a farce at the moment, the worst I have EVER seen it. And that includes all the dark days I have seen.  So dont say I am the embarrassment.

lSometimes loving someone means telling the truth - not sticking your head in the sand believing and accepting everything the person you love does.

Yes, embarrassment sums it up nicely.

Even if he's only there to watch what's going on if there's any chance he will be manager next season suggesting he stay away is ridiculous.  I'd be much more upset to find that anyone connected with the club thought it better for him to stay away than if there's a photo in the newspaper of him waving to a liverpool fan.

[pablopicasso_10]

i would imagine he is more coming to the last game of the season at villa park, because it is the last game of the season at villa park...

[Sexual Ealing]

Dave,

Without getting into a personal argment here, I have seen you many many many many times on the TV "demanding the club do things"

I also seem to remember a certain magazine making someone money  , having read it, I can confirm most of it is full of the writer "demanding things"

As I say, no offence, but people in glass houses and all that.

Which of the hundreds of writers was that?

It's not about 'demanding things'; it's about a season that has been for the most part shite - albeit with several mitigating circumstances - but has certainly not been worse than several others we've endured without the sort of hysteria prevalent this time round. Maybe it's an internet thing, or the modern demand for instant success, but I can't remember a time before when our own supporters have been our fiercest and most relentless abusers. That banner, some of what's been said about the manager and the abuse given to the general and Randy on several occasions has been embarassing to witness.

This time last year you were moaning about the manager and taunting people who disagreed with you with 'that's right, when in doubt blame the fans...'

What's changed, apart from our position in the league and the manager?

[dave.woodhall]

Dave,

Without getting into a personal argment here, I have seen you many many many many times on the TV nulldemanding the club do thingsnull

I also seem to remember a certain magazine making someone money  , having read it, I can confirm most of it is full of the writer nulldemanding thingsnull

As I say, no offence, but people in glass houses and all that.

Which of the hundreds of writers was that?

It's not about 'demanding things'; it's about a season that has been for the most part shite - albeit with several mitigating circumstances - but has certainly not been worse than several others we've endured without the sort of hysteria prevalent this time round. Maybe it's an internet thing, or the modern demand for instant success, but I can't remember a time before when our own supporters have been our fiercest and most relentless abusers. That banner, some of what's been said about the manager and the abuse given to the general and Randy on several occasions has been embarassing to witness.

This time last year you were moaning about the manager and taunting people who disagreed with you with 'that's right, when in doubt blame the fans...'

What's changed, apart from our position in the league and the manager?

There's a bit of a difference between what was  being said then, and the sort of downright idiocy we've seen lately.  For example, do you think it's right that the Villa manager should be asked to stay away from a Villa game because of the reaction he might get from Villa supporters?