West Ham United vs. Aston Villa: Post-Match Thread

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Definite foul on Cole. But no worse than the foul on Bent against Everton, which was in the box. Anyway Bents "other goal" was a terrible decision. The linesman who was in a much better position gave nothing, Bent totally out jumped the defender and it was a top class finish. Ashley Youngs best game this season and where was he playing ? yes on the wing .......

[eamonn]

I think the ref would have given Bent's first ''goal'' if the earlier incident hadn't have happened. Then again, as Percy pointed out, the space-time continuum/butterfly theory/serendipity at play means that Bent wouldn't have got that chance if the ref had ruled a foul on Dunne earlier, thus altering the course of rest of the game and indeed, humanity.

[Brend'Watkins]

I think the ref would have given Bent's first ''goal'' if the earlier incident hadn't have happened. Then again, as Percy pointed out, the space-time continuum/butterfly theory/serendipity at play means that Bent wouldn't have got that chance if the ref had ruled a foul on Dunne earlier, thus altering the course of rest of the game and indeed, humanity.

I think you are referring to cause and effect.  By the same token, there is a distinct possibility that even down to 10 men we could have gone on to win the game by a bigger margin.  We will never know.

[ADVILLAFAN]

I went to West Ham on Saturday and I can see why they want to move. It's a right dive. It didn't even have numbers on the seats as they'd worn away.

They're in big trouble now, with Man City and Chelsea away as their next 2 games.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Back off! I saw him first.

I thought Carlton Cole was your man? You're such a tart, Mazrim.

O.K that's the second time you've mentioned him in relation to me. Why?

He was on your summer transfer target list and for the life of me, I couldn't understand why. Even the West Ham fans refer to him as CFC.
At least you're in good company with LeeB. Nutters the pair of you.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Dunne was very lucky not to give a penalty away in the first half.

It was two feet outside the box. To me it was 50/50 both players trying to muscle the other one off the ball with Dunne being the stronger. It could easily have been given as a foul but I think the ref saw it the same way.

He did indeed, Chris. He put his hand to his his shoulder to indicate to the West Ham appeals it was 'shoulder to shoulder'.

[Clampy]

I'm not too worried about the Dunne challenge. Jagielka conned us out of three points a few weeks ago which would have seen us safe by now and Bent's first should have stood so i'll take the bit of luck we got quite happily.

As for the game, we were iffy for the first twenty off minutes, got the equaliser and like the last few away games, came flying out of the traps in the second half. The fans again were superb and i've not celebrated a winner like that for a long time.

[peter w]

Agree with you clampy but to be honest, and I think I speak for all I don't really care. The Dunne decision went our way and luck evening ittself or not that's all I really care about. Surprised Hesket hasn,t got as many plaudits as he should have. He was poor first 20 minutes but when were playing well he was at the heart of everyhting setting up the attacks by winning header after header from keeper/defenders. at one corner he won the header against two West Ham defenders which flashed across goal and Bent hadn't gambled.

When Heskey went off he got a deserving applause as everyone recognised his performance. after that for 10 or 15 minutes our attack clearly missed him as were very rarely winning flick-ons and the high ball. Luckily, well only in a sense of relief  way, we scored a great second. Credit to the players (Young was brilliant, Collins superb, Downing at his best, Walker absolutely killing them down the right whilst Luke Young was always defending well or supporting the attack, I could go on.) but I think this game shouldn't pass without Heskey's contribution getting the praise it fully deserves.

[Clampy]

When Heskey went off he got a deserving applause as everyone recognised his performance. after that for 10 or 15 minutes our attack clearly missed him as were very rarely winning flick-ons and the high ball.

I said something similar to my mate next to me at the time. I would have left him on a bit longer than we did. We did'nt seem to keep the ball as well when he went off. Luckily it turned out ok, and i'd start him against Stoke at the Weekend.

[WikiVilla]

I went to West Ham on Saturday and I can see why they want to move. It's a right dive. It didn't even have numbers on the seats as they'd worn away.

They're in big trouble now, with Man City and Chelsea away as their next 2 games.

Then they have 3 winnable games, 3 cup finals
The Dunne challenge for me was shoulder to shoulder, nothing in it

[nodge]

The Dunne challenge was no worse than Taylors on Bent the week before in the penalty box and we got nothing for that.  There weren't any pundits saying that should have been a sending off.

[hartman_1982]

The Dunne challenge was no worse than Taylors on Bent the week before in the penalty box and we got nothing for that.  There weren't any pundits saying that should have been a sending off.

The one on Bent was a penalty, but not a sending off. As for the Dunne challenge, it was a foul and red card. Cole had got in front of him and he pushed him with his fore arm. As it happens though, I couldn't care less! We were robbed at Everton, had a goal disallowed against the toon and there was nothing wrong with Bent's goal on saturday. You win some, you lose some.

[Archie]

The Dunne challenge was no worse than Taylors on Bent the week before in the penalty box and we got nothing for that.  There weren't any pundits saying that should have been a sending off.

The one on Bent was a penalty, but not a sending off. As for the Dunne challenge, it was a foul and red card. Cole had got in front of him and he pushed him with his fore arm. As it happens though, I couldn't care less! We were robbed at Everton, had a goal disallowed against the toon and there was nothing wrong with Bent's goal on saturday. You win some, you lose some.

Agree.
Dunne was absolute a disgrace, as usual: he was asleep in occasion of the 1st goal (even if it was AJ7 to make the biggest error), he committed a foul that should be sanctioned with a red card , and - icing on the cake -  at 85° left Carlton Cole completely unmarked, a normal striker would have scored without effort and we would be talking about a defeat.
The highlights will confirm his awful performance:
http://footytu.be/v1p7f.

[Toronto Villa]

Dunne was an absolute disgrace? Wow. What game were you watching again? He made an error letting Cole in for the shot, and it wasn't his fault at all for the first. He got lucky no doubt with the foul, but we've had so much shit luck all season on a number of levels, so we're due a bit. I'll concede he wasn't brilliant, but a disgrace?? Really?

[Mazrim]

Back off! I saw him first.

I thought Carlton Cole was your man? You're such a tart, Mazrim.

O.K that's the second time you've mentioned him in relation to me. Why?

He was on your summer transfer target list and for the life of me, I couldn't understand why. Even the West Ham fans refer to him as CFC.
At least you're in good company with LeeB. Nutters the pair of you.

Like I said, he was somebody I thought MON would try and sign, not somebody I really wanted to.