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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #165 on: May 21, 2011, 01:28:07 PM »
Yes MON left us in the lurch, but if there was no transfer budget what could he do?

The job he was paid to do, just like every other manager in football.

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #166 on: May 21, 2011, 01:30:36 PM »
Anybody else thought that maybe MON's fighting for adequate payouts not just for him but all his staff who walked with him too?

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #167 on: May 21, 2011, 01:32:52 PM »
Anybody else thought that maybe MON's fighting for adequate payouts not just for him but all his staff who walked with him too?

I wonder if there is much friction within Team O'Neill. I know what my wife would be saying, every day, if I was sat at home unemployed just because somebody else told me to walk.

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #168 on: May 21, 2011, 04:12:53 PM »
This is how I see it:-

RL had requested/ordered MON to reduce the wage & at the same time told PF that no money out until deadwood sold, fair enough.

MON realises he has to balance the books but at the same time strengthen the squad, therefore organises the McGeady & Keane deals.

PF acting on RL's instructions blocks the deal. MON views this as interference in playing matters spits his dummy out & walks.

Had RL been in the UK at the time I think a compromise could have been reached. McGeady & Keane signed with the proviso that Sidwell, NRC et al would be sold asap.

As I recall, Randy was in Brum, left on the Saturday thinking everything was fine. On the next day MON gets all his staff to agree to quit and hands in his resignation on the Monday morning to PF, who then calls a very shocked Randy Lerner.

My guess is MON realised he'd been found out:

He acknowledged that some Villa fans were not happy and beginning to question his decisions.
He knew he didn't have the appetite to carry on for another season, especially having been linked to the Liverpool job.
He realised he was going to look rather foolish when Lerner saw the resale value of his purchases.
He knew that if he left when he did he'd still have his reputation intact.
He knew he had a ready made excuse he could give his mates in the press
He knew the timing of his resignation would likely mean Villa would struggle to hit 6th place again.
He knew he'd soon be offered a new job.

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #169 on: May 21, 2011, 05:05:49 PM »
Anybody else thought that maybe MON's fighting for adequate payouts not just for him but all his staff who walked with him too?

They didn't have to. In fact, the entire team walking out en masse left us more in the shit than he did.

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #170 on: May 21, 2011, 05:09:18 PM »
Come again ?

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #171 on: May 21, 2011, 05:20:15 PM »
Anybody else thought that maybe MON's fighting for adequate payouts not just for him but all his staff who walked with him too?

They didn't have to. In fact, the entire team walking out en masse left us more in the shit than he did.

They came as a team, if MON felt aggrieved then I am sure they shared it so it's no surprise that they stuck together. Just as if the manager had been sacked they'd have been shown the door too.

I think Willie Anderson has probably got it about right.

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #172 on: May 21, 2011, 05:20:54 PM »
Team O'Neill didn't have to walk out just because their boss did. If they'd stayed to tide things over as most coaching staffs have the decency to do, we might not have fared so badly.

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #173 on: May 21, 2011, 05:22:52 PM »
Team O'Neill didn't have to walk out just because their boss did. If they'd stayed to tide things over as most coaching staffs have the decency to do, we might not have fared so badly.
Oh Right, Yeah.  I'm with you on that one Dave.

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #174 on: May 21, 2011, 05:26:28 PM »
It showed some amazing loyalty from them, I wonder how they are all coping financially as none of them would have been on MON's salary. He is probably subsidising them!

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #175 on: May 21, 2011, 05:31:44 PM »
It showed some amazing loyalty from them, I wonder how they are all coping financially as none of them would have been on MON's salary. He is probably subsidising them!

I bet they are constantly leaving long messages on his voicemail. And when they come by his house, he crouches behind the sofa and pretends to be out

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #176 on: May 21, 2011, 05:31:50 PM »
Anybody else thought that maybe MON's fighting for adequate payouts not just for him but all his staff who walked with him too?

They didn't have to. In fact, the entire team walking out en masse left us more in the shit than he did.

They came as a team, if MON felt aggrieved then I am sure they shared it so it's no surprise that they stuck together. Just as if the manager had been sacked they'd have been shown the door too.

I think Willie Anderson has probably got it about right.

Any chance of any proof with that one?

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #177 on: May 21, 2011, 05:33:03 PM »
It showed some amazing loyalty from them, I wonder how they are all coping financially as none of them would have been on MON's salary. He is probably subsidising them!

I think they all got pay-offs from the club. MON being manager, had a different type of contract. The LMA site explains this in terms of how managers have certain additional clauses in their contracts.

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #178 on: May 21, 2011, 06:23:19 PM »
How much do coaches earn? I doubt they will be struggling to get by and looking for some pennies for the meter down the back of the coach.

Do we know if any of them have successfully negotiated pay offs? It might be down to that if they haven't. If they have all mutually agreed with the club for pay offs then it obviously won't be that.

I still think there is something underneath this that we don't know that MoN is basing his claim on.

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #179 on: May 21, 2011, 06:36:06 PM »
Anybody else thought that maybe MON's fighting for adequate payouts not just for him but all his staff who walked with him too?

They didn't have to. In fact, the entire team walking out en masse left us more in the shit than he did.

They came as a team, if MON felt aggrieved then I am sure they shared it so it's no surprise that they stuck together. Just as if the manager had been sacked they'd have been shown the door too.

I think Willie Anderson has probably got it about right.

Any chance of any proof with that one?

Proof?

Why single out my bit of speculation when the whole thread contains nothing but?

 


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