Quote from: gregnash on May 20, 2011, 09:19:00 AMSorry Chris. I was referring to your reply to Mellin's post where you cannot understand how anyone would claim finishing 6th 3 times was poor use of the millions chucked at the squad.As I said, the sides that finished above us had more expensive squads so the money argument is a total red herring. It's not transfer fees that were the issue it was wages and we failed to increase revenue to keep pace with our improvement on the pitch. Perhaps if a few more fans who could afford it backed the club it might have been different.
Sorry Chris. I was referring to your reply to Mellin's post where you cannot understand how anyone would claim finishing 6th 3 times was poor use of the millions chucked at the squad.
The bloke's a c*** for doing it. I thought about trawling back through records of sales and acquisitions, promises broken and promises kept, successes and failures, to qualify that response.Could have, but ultimately couldn't be bothered because it wouldn't have made an iota of difference.The bloke's a c*** for doing it.
The club maintain the level of spending was unsustainable, while MON claims he was given assurances he had a free reign on what to buy.
He did a decent job.He bought some good players.He bought some shit players.He was profligate with some of the contacts he handed outThe board should maybe have been less trusting in that sense, but they weren't stupid enough to say"you decide the budget", I can't believe anyone thinks that.He was asked to work on the wage bill - just like any other manager has to - but he decided he was too big for that and fucked off at the worst possible moment for us.Did an ok job, then shat on us.
anyone can be a chequebook manager
Quote from: VillaSubmariner on May 19, 2011, 09:47:24 PMQuote from: clampy on May 19, 2011, 09:43:42 PMQuote from: VillaSubmariner on May 19, 2011, 09:36:06 PMQuote from: clampy on May 19, 2011, 09:34:12 PMLike it's already been said, despite the lack of transfer activity in pre-season (and even then we were only one player down on last season, albeit a very good one) GH was left with a squad of players that he should have done a whole lot better with. That is true, but you also have to factor that the teams we were competing with last season strengthened their squads, whereas ours became weaker in the Summer. And that is no fault of Houllier's.Yes the squad became weaker (1 player less i might add) but was it really weak enough to pick up 19 points less than last season?No it wasn't. The upheaval of all that happened when MoN left and the horrendous injuries we have had for chunks of the season have contributed to that too though. Not 19 points worth, but I'd say at least 12 points worth. I'd love to know what equation you're using for that.
Quote from: clampy on May 19, 2011, 09:43:42 PMQuote from: VillaSubmariner on May 19, 2011, 09:36:06 PMQuote from: clampy on May 19, 2011, 09:34:12 PMLike it's already been said, despite the lack of transfer activity in pre-season (and even then we were only one player down on last season, albeit a very good one) GH was left with a squad of players that he should have done a whole lot better with. That is true, but you also have to factor that the teams we were competing with last season strengthened their squads, whereas ours became weaker in the Summer. And that is no fault of Houllier's.Yes the squad became weaker (1 player less i might add) but was it really weak enough to pick up 19 points less than last season?No it wasn't. The upheaval of all that happened when MoN left and the horrendous injuries we have had for chunks of the season have contributed to that too though. Not 19 points worth, but I'd say at least 12 points worth.
Quote from: VillaSubmariner on May 19, 2011, 09:36:06 PMQuote from: clampy on May 19, 2011, 09:34:12 PMLike it's already been said, despite the lack of transfer activity in pre-season (and even then we were only one player down on last season, albeit a very good one) GH was left with a squad of players that he should have done a whole lot better with. That is true, but you also have to factor that the teams we were competing with last season strengthened their squads, whereas ours became weaker in the Summer. And that is no fault of Houllier's.Yes the squad became weaker (1 player less i might add) but was it really weak enough to pick up 19 points less than last season?
Quote from: clampy on May 19, 2011, 09:34:12 PMLike it's already been said, despite the lack of transfer activity in pre-season (and even then we were only one player down on last season, albeit a very good one) GH was left with a squad of players that he should have done a whole lot better with. That is true, but you also have to factor that the teams we were competing with last season strengthened their squads, whereas ours became weaker in the Summer. And that is no fault of Houllier's.
Like it's already been said, despite the lack of transfer activity in pre-season (and even then we were only one player down on last season, albeit a very good one) GH was left with a squad of players that he should have done a whole lot better with.
Quote from: pauliebentnuts on May 20, 2011, 05:00:20 PMHe did a decent job.He bought some good players.He bought some shit players.He was profligate with some of the contacts he handed outThe board should maybe have been less trusting in that sense, but they weren't stupid enough to say"you decide the budget", I can't believe anyone thinks that.He was asked to work on the wage bill - just like any other manager has to - but he decided he was too big for that and fucked off at the worst possible moment for us.Did an ok job, then shat on us.The only thing I would add is that he never addressed the problem of why we were excellent for 7 moths then ran out of steam