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Offline Concrete John

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2011, 11:58:41 AM »
The reasons that others find them unfathomable are usually down to them not having the full facts or not understanding the law.

In this instance it is a specific LMA hearing not a general Employment Tribunal, convened to arbitrate because the two sides have not been able to agree on the terms of the severance. It seems to me only right and proper that such a mechanism exists to offer protection to employees in profession where bosses are often very quick to dismiss.

I think the problem is that emotional involvement is causing us to view at something more sinister.
Actually, now that I think about it, isn't that another issue? If it's a LMA hearing, surely their impartiality is as questionable as mine, or am I missing something (which is highly probable)? It would be like the PFA holding a tribunal on a player being sacked / fined heavily by a club. Their M.O. is to look after the interests of managers, not to judge who is in the right / wrong.

But as far as I'm aware they offer a form of mediation to try and come to an agreement as opposed to having any actual decision making powers in the process?  So whether they side with the manager or not, all they do is act as a go between?

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2011, 12:05:09 PM »
My understanding was that its the terms of his settlement they're arguing about, not that he left. I'm guessing MON expected a years wages, while the board are saying "hang on, you wanted to leave". This tribunal is so MON can argue he had no choice to dump us a week before the season started, so he can pocket some more cash to tide him over till some other mugs employ him.

Online Ger Regan

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2011, 12:08:46 PM »
If it's solely mediation, then fair enough, but if they do have the power to decide on the amount of compo, then I'd be very concerned about their impartiality.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2011, 12:14:00 PM »
thing is MON expected to be manager of West ham by now until he was exposed for taking to them behind Avran grant's back. In a lot of these severance deals the clubs pay them until they get a new job. Maybe they cut off his money when he pulled out.

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2011, 12:28:52 PM »


In this instance it is a specific LMA hearing not a general Employment Tribunal, convened to arbitrate because the two sides have not been able to agree on the terms of the severance. It seems to me only right and proper that such a mechanism exists to offer protection to employers in profession where bosses are often very quick to walk out.
This post was tweaked slightly!

Indeed, I wonder how much they'll agree he owes us?

Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2011, 12:50:38 AM »
Anyone know when the date has been set for his tribunal case, I'm pretty sure he  mentioned last month that it would take place in April.

Will the details be freely available or will it be all kept hush hush?
This week,  according to Martin Samuel, writing about the Spammers fiasco in The Daily Heil.
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O'Neill remains a contender, but has unfinished business with Aston Villa due to be heard at a tribunal this week, while Allardyce may still be smarting at being overlooked in January, particularly as the job has just been made so much harder by relegation.

Offline damon loves JT

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2011, 07:12:23 AM »
Perhaps the League Manager's Association
will sentence him to death. It would be only fair.

Offline Perry Barr Pet

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2011, 11:45:45 AM »
I heard it was scheduled for the end of this week and beginning of next.

Offline dave.woodhall

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2011, 11:52:34 AM »
I heard it was scheduled for the end of this week and beginning of next.

It's defintiely the end of this week, although how long it'll last I don't know.

Offline Richard E

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2011, 12:04:42 PM »
He is being represented by Paul Gilroy QChttp://www.leaguemanagers.com/news/news-6754.html who is pretty good in my experience.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2011, 12:48:23 PM »
be nice to know what he's actually unhappy about. Randy wouldn't give him a full payout because he quit? Interferance by the board?  I hope we actually find out at the end of all this.

Offline Risso

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2011, 12:50:18 PM »
I heard it was scheduled for the end of this week and beginning of next.

It's defintiely the end of this week, although how long it'll last I don't know.

Perhaps he'll walk out 10 minutes before it starts.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2011, 12:51:23 PM »
heheheh.....

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2011, 01:38:35 PM »
I bet MON reveals that he was close to taking the WHU job - as a way of proving he was actively looking for work and limiting losses.

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Re: Mons tribunal hearing?
« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2011, 08:36:35 AM »
What was all that bollocks that he was saying about the rolling contract thing, that it protects both the club and himself, that if it goes wrong neither are tied to anything too long.

Yet he walks out and then takes the club to a tribunal. Selfish, lying coward.

 


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