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Offline barrysleftfoot

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2011, 11:46:28 AM »


    AYoung is a right winger, 1st and foremost.He can play on the left, but for me he is more effective on the right.He can't play in the hole.

  I would play Young and Downing , with Bent up front against Everton, with 3 man midfield.

  Collins and Dunne to be brought back?........Not for me, Clark over Dunne, and Collins looked poor to me yday, off the pace, and poor decision making.Pick Cuellar ahead of for me.

  Bents movement off the ball yday was superb, and another example of how Gabby needs to develop if he wants to be any good.

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2011, 11:49:39 AM »


    AYoung is a right winger, 1st and foremost.He can play on the left, but for me he is more effective on the right.He can't play in the hole.

  I would play Young and Downing , with Bent up front against Everton, with 3 man midfield.

  Collins and Dunne to be brought back?........Not for me, Clark over Dunne, and Collins looked poor to me yday, off the pace, and poor decision making.Pick Cuellar ahead of for me.

  Bents movement off the ball yday was superb, and another example of how Gabby needs to develop if he wants to be any good.

I'd agree with all of that. Who to play at left back though? I'd have said Delph, on a temporary basis, but we may need his energy in midfield.

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2011, 12:00:08 PM »
Kick Warnock up the ass, bring him back. If anything with the likes of Dunne and Warnock, you'd think that they'd want to play well to attract a new club. We need seniors at the back. Dunne for all his faults is a skipper and a leader, which is the only reason I'd have him over Carlos. Clarky plays for me too, cause he's the future and has been less error prone than Dunne and Collins.

As for Young. We've got the shit of the two Ash's! :( Kick him up the ass, put him on the bloody wing!

Job done.
4-3-3, or 4-4-2 with Heskey and Bent up top.

Offline barrysleftfoot

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2011, 12:10:45 PM »



   I would'nt trust Warnock tbh, and i don't think Dunne is a natural captain.I dont see him going around encouraging, motivating.Clark does more than Dunne.

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2011, 12:34:44 PM »
I just wish we could have AY back on the wing at Villa i thought he played well for England against Wales and Darren Bent played well scoring again well done Villa Boys not forgetting SD aswell.

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2011, 01:30:00 PM »
a winger playing on the wing had a good game...

not a shock, even if the manager is too fucking stupid to see it..

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #51 on: March 27, 2011, 01:37:02 PM »
I just don't like him.

Offline Mister E

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #52 on: March 27, 2011, 02:59:21 PM »
Think he benefits from having players in midfield who can play penetrating passes. How often do we get behind teams? That's exactly the formation we should be playing with Bent up top and two of MA, AY or SD off him. This would then give us a solid middle three and we might start to get somewhere.
Spot on.

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #53 on: March 27, 2011, 03:17:57 PM »
Young is a winger through and through, yesterday set the record straight for the whole nation to see
I just hope GH & the assistant were watching

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #54 on: March 27, 2011, 04:03:22 PM »
Or he just can't be arsed to play for the Villa now he's decided he wants to leave...

Bollocks, do you go to any games? He played extremely well against Bolton and Blackburn but why let the facts get in the way of blind prejudice?

No prejudice at all - from what I've seen as a season ticket holder for every year he's been with the club, the kid has gone from being a fantastic prospect with loads of potential, into an excellent winger with the ability to change a game, then on into a decent player but one which doesn't dictate anything.  I put his drop in form over this season specifically as being down to the fact he wants out and is less motivated.  It could of course be down to the change in manager or change in playing staff - who knows.  But my view is that he can't be arsed.

Couple that with the fact he has a dreadful attitude on the pitch with his whinging and diving and I won't remember him too fondly once he's gone.

As for performances against Bolton and Blackburn - I didn't see the Bolton game but I was there for Blackburn.  Yes, he had a decent game but it was against a Blackburn side in freefall who imploded 2nd half.  For what it's worth I thought Downing did more to dictate the game against Blackburn.

When was the last time AY did anything game changing against a big club?

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #55 on: March 27, 2011, 04:07:36 PM »
Given the keanness of so many people on here to get rid of one of our best players, we must be absolutely flying of late.

Offline Ad@m

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #56 on: March 27, 2011, 04:44:34 PM »
Given the keanness of so many people on here to get rid of one of our best players, we must be absolutely flying of late.

Call it personal preference Paulie but I would rather have players who actually want to play for the club and understand what it means to pull on the claret and blue jersey than mercenaries who think they're bigger and better than the club itself.  This has nothing to do with our current performance or position in the table.  Man City is a classic example of a bunch of mercenaries and I wouldn't swap a bottom of the table Villa for them any day of the week.

If he wants to leave because he thinks he's better than us then so be it.  I'd rather he went ASAP.  There's the knock-on effect of the club falling over itself to keep him (making him captain, giving him penalties, letting him play in a position he's no use in, etc, etc) and how that's affecting the rest of the players.  I'd rather we accept he's leaving, stop building the team around him, stick him on the wing for the last few games where he plays best, and make better use of the other players.

And I stand by my view that he has been worse this year than in previous years.  You could come up with a dozen suggestions for why that is - my view is that he's lost interest in the Villa.

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #57 on: March 27, 2011, 04:47:30 PM »
Why is it assumed that this "he thinks he's better than the club" line is true, though?

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #58 on: March 27, 2011, 04:48:22 PM »
It's the Vibes he gives off

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: are there 2 ashley youngs?
« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2011, 04:50:11 PM »
It's the Vibes he gives off

So, basically, it's just guesswork?

 


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