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Author Topic: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?  (Read 79769 times)

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #60 on: March 25, 2011, 10:24:07 PM »
As football fans we hate certain teams, sometimes it's because of history. Sometimes it's because they are winning everything. Sometimes it's because they hate us and sometimes its because of geography. It could be because of a mates mate is a wanker. It could be because you hate Harry Rednapp (He's alright really). It might be because it's Manchester United. It might be because Lee Hughes (he aint alright) plays for them.

But me myself, I would not want to see them just disappear and not belong.

That bloke over there, he's alright, a good man he is, we have a bit of banter, gives it, takes it. Not any more His clubs gone tits up. Bloody nightmare. Imagine that if was our club.

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #61 on: March 25, 2011, 10:24:07 PM »
Hey wiki, a ken Dodd fan I believe from your signature- remember big Ron got stan boardman in before we beat man u - as we are up there in Liverpool  maybe GED  could get doddy in to do a turn?

( yes, it is Tongue in cheek).

It's like they ALL need a big blowout before they start afresh

Leicester spa gate may have offered that opportunity but GED and the mute facked off to watch spurzzz !!!

Is there any thread you won't make exactly the same repetitive comments on?

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #62 on: March 25, 2011, 10:29:11 PM »
Because of the point I made earlier. If you know a club's fans despise your own then anything that happens to them is not going to cause a ripple of sympathy for me. Yes, they are people who have kids, families, workmates, Villa fans as mates, lives etc just like our own. yet they choose to go to their ground and be anti villa.

And if they're exactly like us what do you think they're making of our turmoil? Sympathetic because they've been through it? No, they'll be laughing at it as will most clubs. If we were facing financial meltdown do you think they'd be trying to raise money for us? course not.

If Coventry, or our friends in Bordesley, were to disappear over night I really wouldn't care less and no amount of altruistic 'We're All Football fans' camaraderie would make me think any differently. 89 other clubs mean little to me but they don't spend their times hating us. 2 do. i won't delight in Coventry's troubles but neither will I feel for them.

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #63 on: March 25, 2011, 10:30:12 PM »
To think Ranson would have owned our club instead of RL...

We have a lot to thank old Herbert for
The same Ranson who claimed he had big plans for Villa!! Just think, it could have been us.

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #64 on: March 25, 2011, 10:34:01 PM »
Because of the point I made earlier. If you know a club's fans despise your own then anything that happens to them is not going to cause a ripple of sympathy for me. Yes, they are people who have kids, families, workmates, Villa fans as mates, lives etc just like our own. yet they choose to go to their ground and be anti villa.

And if they're exactly like us what do you think they're making of our turmoil? Sympathetic because they've been through it? No, they'll be laughing at it as will most clubs. If we were facing financial meltdown do you think they'd be trying to raise money for us? course not.

If Coventry, or our friends in Bordesley, were to disappear over night I really wouldn't care less and no amount of altruistic 'We're All Football fans' camaraderie would make me think any differently. 89 other clubs mean little to me but they don't spend their times hating us. 2 do. i won't delight in Coventry's troubles but neither will I feel for them.

As I said - how many of them hate us, and how many aren't all that fussed? I sometimes think we get a  lot more worked up about Coventry than they do about us.

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #65 on: March 25, 2011, 10:38:43 PM »
DC have u had the pleasure of that walk back from Highfield to the station
DC have u had the pleasure of that walk back from Highfield to the station

Yep, a few times, and I don't hold a grudge against ALL Coventry fans because some of them are dickheads. Have you seen how some of our own knob jockeys act, smashing up toilets etc?
The majority of Coventry fans are no different to you or I, actually scrub that, they are no different to me, I'm not entirely sure about you.

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #66 on: March 25, 2011, 10:45:14 PM »
Because of the point I made earlier. If you know a club's fans despise your own then anything that happens to them is not going to cause a ripple of sympathy for me. Yes, they are people who have kids, families, workmates, Villa fans as mates, lives etc just like our own. yet they choose to go to their ground and be anti villa.

And if they're exactly like us what do you think they're making of our turmoil? Sympathetic because they've been through it? No, they'll be laughing at it as will most clubs. If we were facing financial meltdown do you think they'd be trying to raise money for us? course not.

If Coventry, or our friends in Bordesley, were to disappear over night I really wouldn't care less and no amount of altruistic 'We're All Football fans' camaraderie would make me think any differently. 89 other clubs mean little to me but they don't spend their times hating us. 2 do. i won't delight in Coventry's troubles but neither will I feel for them.

As I said - how many of them hate us, and how many aren't all that fussed? I sometimes think we get a  lot more worked up about Coventry than they do about us.

Maybe on a Villa forum talking about other clubs but I bet if you went around Villa Park and the Ricoh Arena and canvassed opinions about each other's clubs it would be apparent who gets more worked up about whom.

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #67 on: March 25, 2011, 10:47:23 PM »
There was a good piece by a Cov fan in WSC recently. Almost prophetic, really. Just observing how the team perpetually have nothing to play for, in front of strangely passive crowds slowly dwindling away to nothing. The club has just atrophied since relegation

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2011, 10:48:43 PM »
I like and respect you dave cooper and dave woodhall and agree with most of your views but believe me having lived here and worked here for 30 yrs you are underestimating the dislike of Aston villa in this city - there are few Coventry fans I know who  do not dislike us but by far the majority I know that hate us and I do not say hate lightly.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2011, 10:52:01 PM by eastie »

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2011, 10:52:03 PM »
I like you dave cooper and dave woodhall and agree with most of your views but believe me having lived here and worked here for 30 yrs you are underestimating the dislike of Aston villa in this city - there are few Coventry fans I know who  do not dislike us but by far the majority I know that hate us and I do not say hate lightly.

Strange, and oft-overused, word, hate.

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2011, 10:52:49 PM »
But hatred is just small-mindedness. Be indifferent by all means but gloating at somebody else's misfortune is just bad karma

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #71 on: March 25, 2011, 10:52:52 PM »
There was a good piece by a Cov fan in WSC recently. Almost prophetic, really. Just observing how the team perpetually have nothing to play for, in front of strangely passive crowds slowly dwindling away to nothing. The club has just atrophied since relegation

That's what I fear for our team.

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #72 on: March 25, 2011, 10:54:51 PM »
But hatred is just small-mindedness. Be indifferent by all means but gloating at somebody else's misfortune is just bad karma

i haven't seen people here gloating. Just not caring.

i wouldn't say people 'hate' either as that is just a term used in place of 'don't like a lot' frequently.

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #73 on: March 25, 2011, 10:57:11 PM »
But hatred is just small-mindedness. Be indifferent by all means but gloating at somebody else's misfortune is just bad karma

i haven't seen people here gloating. Just not caring.

i wouldn't say people 'hate' either as that is just a term used in place of 'don't like a lot' frequently.

Funny thing, karma. You don't notice it's there until it's working against you.

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Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2011, 10:57:48 PM »
Randy Lerner is the big difference. I remember reading an interview with Ranson after he took over at Cov and thinking what a bullshitter he was, full of bollocks business-speak. Like he'd swallowed an MBA syllabus and was coughing it up one chunk at a time.

 


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