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Title: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 06:51:16 PM
Local radio reporting that Coventry have been placed under a transfer embargo and ray ranson has resigned as chairman- with huge unpaid debts they are rumoured to be on the brink of
administration.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Lucky Eddie on March 25, 2011, 06:58:08 PM
Let me know if anyone wants to organise a collection.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 06:59:51 PM
Not good news for their fans, who are just football fans like us after all, and not good news for any business owed money for services provided to the club, could be people laid off and small firms going under because of this.
So not really good news at all unless your idea of good news is the misery of others who don't really deserve it.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Mister E on March 25, 2011, 07:01:13 PM
Local radio reporting that Coventry have been placed under a transfer embargo and ray ranson has resigned as chairman- with huge unpaid debts they are rumoured to be on the brink of
administration.

Good news at the end of a shit week.
Not such good news if you happen to be a creditor - football clubs going tits-up don't give me a thrill.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Ian. on March 25, 2011, 07:03:38 PM
Terrible news. Like Dave has said not good for the fans. Bad news for football. My other half's family from Coventry, they will be gutted.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 25, 2011, 07:04:46 PM
I don't see this as being good news. They are another Midlands football club, and we need them to survive and flourish. I even want all of Midlands teams in the PL to stay up, because inevitably the world balances itself, and we'll be tops again. Plus they offer us endless hours of entertainment especially the 'draggers.

Football eating itself at the lower end is never good, because the game would be a lot poorer without those teams.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 07:07:30 PM
Point taken lads and modified although I'm sure if we go down they will celebrate our demise.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 25, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
To be fair i think eastie's comment was probably Tongue in cheek so cut him a little slack
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 25, 2011, 07:17:28 PM
Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 07:17:52 PM
Thank you wiki!  I have had many years abuse from their fans as they hate us with a passion that you wouldn't believe unless you lived in the city.

For some reason villa and our fans are referred to as the scum .
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Bad English on March 25, 2011, 07:20:57 PM
I hate modern football but I am finding it hard to get emotional about Coventry.

This is my internet persona  speaking. In reality, I might be dismayed and concerned by these events. Then again, I might well be cracking open the bubbly at the demise of the Felcher bastards. who knows?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 07:21:02 PM
Point taken lads and modified although I'm sure if we go down they will celebrate our demise.

Well done, sorry to be a misery, and I'm sure your post was tongue in cheek but I don't like to see any football club go under.
I celebrated their relegation, as they will ours if it happens, but I don't want clubs going into administration, too many decent people suffer as a result.

As an aside, Plymouth are on the brink of not only administration, but possible extinction.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 07:21:05 PM
I think Fletch must have his period.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 25, 2011, 07:22:09 PM
I think Fletch must have his period.
Double maths at 7pm, no wonder i'm not happy.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 25, 2011, 07:24:53 PM
Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.
Ha ha brilliant
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 07:25:57 PM
True it was Tongue in cheek coops but you are correct. I have friendS who follow them but with no ground of their own and no assets the writing has been on the wall for weeks.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 07:27:36 PM
Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.


That's a real shame.
Fletch, you strike me as a decent bloke, in fact I know you are a decent bloke, why this animosity towards fellow football fans? Probably less than 10% of their fans really hate us, a few more don't like us, many more see us as rivals they'd like to beat, and the rest don't care, in other words, a typical football crowd much like our own.

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 25, 2011, 07:30:56 PM
Probably less than 10% of their fans really hate us,
Dave, you are well and truly taking the piss.
Coventry people in general hate 'Brummies' (I've worked with people closely in Coventry)
In years gone by at Highfield Road, I can tell you that a lot more than 10% of their fans were wishing plague and pestilince on us.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 25, 2011, 07:30:59 PM
Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.


That's a real shame.
Fletch, you strike me as a decent bloke, in fact I know you are a decent bloke, why this animosity towards fellow football fans? Probably less than 10% of their fans really hate us, a few more don't like us, many more see us as rivals they'd like to beat, and the rest don't care, in other words, a typical football crowd much like our own.


If you think claw's are normal.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 07:34:36 PM
Probably less than 10% of their fans really hate us,
Dave, you are well and truly taking the piss.
Coventry people in general hate 'Brummies' (I've worked with people closely in Coventry)
In years gone by at Highfield Road, I can tell you that a lot more than 10% of their fans were wishing plague and pestilince on us.

Well maybe I'm better than them then.
Whatever, I don't want football clubs to go under, it's not good for their fans (no matter what they think of Villa), it's not good for their community and it's a disaster for the local area and local businesses.
If you are happy with that then fine, go ahead and gloat.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 25, 2011, 07:36:48 PM
Probably less than 10% of their fans really hate us,
Dave, you are well and truly taking the piss.
Coventry people in general hate 'Brummies' (I've worked with people closely in Coventry)
In years gone by at Highfield Road, I can tell you that a lot more than 10% of their fans were wishing plague and pestilince on us.

Well maybe I'm better than them then.
Whatever, I don't want football clubs to go under, it's not good for their fans (no matter what they think of Villa), it's not good for their community and it's a disaster for the local area and local businesses.
If you are happy with that then fine, go ahead and gloat.
I don't want most clubs to go under, in fact i'll gladly stand up for 98% of them, but the Dog Shit and Coventry can suck my stump.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 07:40:44 PM
Although it will undoubtedly see local people being put out of work?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 25, 2011, 07:42:18 PM
Probably less than 10% of their fans really hate us,
Dave, you are well and truly taking the piss.
Coventry people in general hate 'Brummies' (I've worked with people closely in Coventry)
In years gone by at Highfield Road, I can tell you that a lot more than 10% of their fans were wishing plague and pestilince on us.

Well maybe I'm better than them then.
Whatever, I don't want football clubs to go under, it's not good for their fans (no matter what they think of Villa), it's not good for their community and it's a disaster for the local area and local businesses.
If you are happy with that then fine, go ahead and gloat.
I don't want most clubs to go under, in fact i'll gladly stand up for 98% of them, but the Dog Shit and Coventry can suck my stump.
Spit's out coffee.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 07:47:41 PM
In fairness dave, the percentage who hate us is really high, I've twice had windows put through after stupidly getting out of my car with a villa shirt on and when we married my brother in law refused to speak to my wife for a long time because she married a villa fan., they do hate us with a passion and in great numbers.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: andyh on March 25, 2011, 07:47:59 PM
Probably less than 10% of their fans really hate us,
Dave, you are well and truly taking the piss.
Coventry people in general hate 'Brummies' (I've worked with people closely in Coventry)
In years gone by at Highfield Road, I can tell you that a lot more than 10% of their fans were wishing plague and pestilince on us.

Well maybe I'm better than them then.
Whatever, I don't want football clubs to go under, it's not good for their fans (no matter what they think of Villa), it's not good for their community and it's a disaster for the local area and local businesses.
If you are happy with that then fine, go ahead and gloat.
I don't want most clubs to go under, in fact i'll gladly stand up for 98% of them, but the Dog Shit and Coventry can suck my stump.

I'm sorry.......... but that is just fucking brilliant !!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eamonn on March 25, 2011, 07:48:27 PM
Well Kevin Webster has just won 200 grand on a scratch card.
Think he's a Citeh fan but maybe he could help out another sky-blue team.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 07:54:52 PM
On the Webster topic there's a song Swansea fans sing about Scott Sinclair including the lines 'he's shaggin  Rosie Webster and Sally don't care !
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 08:03:57 PM
In fairness dave, the percentage who hate us is really high, I've twice had windows put through after stupidly getting out of my car with a villa shirt on and when we married my brother in law refused to speak to my wife for a long time because she married a villa fan., they do hate us with a passion and in great numbers.

So you having your window put through by a couple of dickheads, of which Villa aren't exactly short of, means that all Coventry fans are wankers who deserve to see their club go under?

I'm not giving this up, there but for the grace of McGrath and all that.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 25, 2011, 08:07:57 PM
Most Cov fans have an unbelievable hatred for us, closer to 90%
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Sam Smith on March 25, 2011, 08:08:12 PM
Wanting the club to go out of business is harsh but the way people are speaking on here????  Did you not used to go to Highfield Rd? They are pathetic about the Villa and despise us with a passion. It will be another economic blow for the area and a crying shame for those affected but I reserve nothing but contempt for those spiteful C"£$%!

Chim chimany,  Chim chimany etc.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 08:08:54 PM
No dave, not all wankers but a hell of a lot more than  10% hate villa and I don't mean dislike.

I would never advise anyone to wear a villa shirt in Coventry - you would have to live here to see the hatred towards villa, as I'm sure any villa fan living in this area would confirm.

EVen now 10 years after relegation the most popular song at the ricoh is 'shit on the villa' which regularly rings around their ground. '
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: peter w on March 25, 2011, 08:11:26 PM
Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.

 I was just about to say this. I would care more if they didn't spend their football lives hating the team I support. Why should I give a flying fuck if theirs disappeared?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: MonsXI on March 25, 2011, 08:11:56 PM
No dave, not all wankers but a hell of a lot more than  10% hate villa and I don't mean dislike.

I would never advise anyone to wear a villa shirt in Coventry - you would have to live here to see the hatred towards villa, as I'm sure any villa fan living in this area would confirm.

I live in Coventry and confirm this, I never understood their hatred of us until moving here.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 08:12:31 PM
Aston V and Coventry
Live together in perfect harmony
Either side of the M42 corridor
Oh Lor'
Why don't weeeeeeee
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 25, 2011, 08:15:39 PM
Aston V and Coventry
Live together in perfect harmony
Either side of the M42 corridor
Oh Lor'
Why don't weeeeeeee
We all know
that people are the same wherever you go
There is good and bad, in everyone
But Coventry supporters are vermin
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 25, 2011, 08:18:52 PM
Although it will undoubtedly see local people being put out of work?
I think any businesses around the Ricoh arena will always make a living, they have enough events there.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 08:19:37 PM
Seek therapy. Derek Bird started out like this
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 25, 2011, 08:21:05 PM
Seek therapy. Derek Bird started out like this

Is that the Scouser who hangs around haunted houses?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 08:25:52 PM
Yes. Correct. carry on
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 08:31:22 PM
Ranson always struck me as being a couple of Kumars short of a Michael Knighton
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Michel Sibble on March 25, 2011, 08:47:11 PM
To think Ranson would have owned our club instead of RL...
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Michel Sibble on March 25, 2011, 08:49:16 PM
Cov in potential administration? Schadenfreude, motherfuckers, schadenfreude.

That's what you get for singing about Dion Dublin's broken neck.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 25, 2011, 08:55:58 PM
To think Ranson would have owned our club instead of RL...

We have a lot to thank old Herbert for
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 09:10:16 PM
I'm backing out of this.
There seems to be a lot of animosity towards a club most of you apparently don't care about.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: olaftab on March 25, 2011, 09:23:40 PM

Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.

At H&V we are all fans together.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: olaftab on March 25, 2011, 09:31:07 PM
To be fair i think eastie's comment was probably Tongue in cheek so cut him a little slack

and he is only 19!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: curiousorange on March 25, 2011, 09:32:51 PM
So that makes you 235 then?!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: peter w on March 25, 2011, 09:39:26 PM
I'm backing out of this.
There seems to be a lot of animosity towards a club most of you apparently don't care about.


Yeah, I couldn't give a shit about Coventry. but in this emotional, irrational world of football that we all exist within, when someone explicitly hates what is dear to you then you'll react when what's dear to them could possibly be taken away. Survive, don't survive I couldn't give a shit. But I certainly won't shed a tear for them. Or a signature on a petition. Or my piss to dous any of their bonfires. Sod 'em.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Rico on March 25, 2011, 09:48:45 PM
I lived and worked in Nuneaton, which is a stone's through from Cov, for 6 years. I actually believe most Cov fans hate Villa more than our knuckle dragging friends from across thẹ city. And yes they refer to us as thẹ scum. It's weird because I don't know any Villa fans who give a toss about them. Very strange area! Considering it's not too far from Brum, I hardly ever met any Villa fans, but came across plenty of Man ure and red scouse fans. Hope they don't go bust, but equally hope we don't ever have to play them ever again.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: curiousorange on March 25, 2011, 09:56:39 PM
I recall being very happy when we relegated them in 2001. From the day following that to this I haven't given Coventry City a second's thought.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 09:56:42 PM
To be fair i think eastie's comment was probably Tongue in cheek so cut him a little slack

and he is only 19!

I wish I was 19 aftab, I'm 45 as it happens!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 25, 2011, 10:01:05 PM
I'm backing out of this.
There seems to be a lot of animosity towards a club most of you apparently don't care about.

Back away

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 10:11:44 PM
As I say, there but for the grace of McGrath go us, think how you would feel if it was Villa in that situation, and it's not so far fetched either.
But if it makes you feel good that fellow football fans could be losing their club carry on, I personally wish them all the best and hope they get through this.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: peter w on March 25, 2011, 10:14:45 PM
As I say, there but for the grace of McGrath go us, think how you would feel if it was Villa in that situation, and it's not so far fetched either.
But if it makes you feel good that fellow football fans could be losing their club carry on, I personally wish them all the best and hope they get through this.

Pointless question asking us how we would feel if Vila were in this situation. Its like saying how would you feel if your dad died. and how we should feel if someone elses dad died even if he had spent his whole life spitting abuse at your dad.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 25, 2011, 10:14:51 PM
I wonder how many Coventry supporters are these mythical Villa-hating monsters of legend and how many are exactly like us.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 10:15:16 PM
Hey wiki, a ken Dodd fan I believe from your signature- remember big Ron got stan boardman in before we beat man u - as we are up there in Liverpool  maybe GED  could get doddy in to do a turn?

( yes, it is Tongue in cheek).
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 25, 2011, 10:16:28 PM
DC have u had the pleasure of that walk back from Highfield to the station
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: peter w on March 25, 2011, 10:17:15 PM
I wonder how many Coventry supporters are these mythical Villa-hating monsters of legend and how many are exactly like us.

You could say the same as fans of The Shit. yes they are like us, but why should we care for them or their clubs? because we're all in this together? That's nonsense.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 25, 2011, 10:20:33 PM
I wonder how many Coventry supporters are these mythical Villa-hating monsters of legend and how many are exactly like us.

You could say the same as fans of The Shit. yes they are like us, but why should we care for them or their clubs? because we're all in this together? That's nonsense.

Why is it?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 25, 2011, 10:22:22 PM
Hey wiki, a ken Dodd fan I believe from your signature- remember big Ron got stan boardman in before we beat man u - as we are up there in Liverpool  maybe GED  could get doddy in to do a turn?

( yes, it is Tongue in cheek).

It's like they ALL need a big blowout before they start afresh

Leicester spa gate may have offered that opportunity but GED and the mute facked off to watch spurzzz !!!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Ian. on March 25, 2011, 10:24:07 PM
As football fans we hate certain teams, sometimes it's because of history. Sometimes it's because they are winning everything. Sometimes it's because they hate us and sometimes its because of geography. It could be because of a mates mate is a wanker. It could be because you hate Harry Rednapp (He's alright really). It might be because it's Manchester United. It might be because Lee Hughes (he aint alright) plays for them.

But me myself, I would not want to see them just disappear and not belong.

That bloke over there, he's alright, a good man he is, we have a bit of banter, gives it, takes it. Not any more His clubs gone tits up. Bloody nightmare. Imagine that if was our club.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 25, 2011, 10:24:07 PM
Hey wiki, a ken Dodd fan I believe from your signature- remember big Ron got stan boardman in before we beat man u - as we are up there in Liverpool  maybe GED  could get doddy in to do a turn?

( yes, it is Tongue in cheek).

It's like they ALL need a big blowout before they start afresh

Leicester spa gate may have offered that opportunity but GED and the mute facked off to watch spurzzz !!!

Is there any thread you won't make exactly the same repetitive comments on?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: peter w on March 25, 2011, 10:29:11 PM
Because of the point I made earlier. If you know a club's fans despise your own then anything that happens to them is not going to cause a ripple of sympathy for me. Yes, they are people who have kids, families, workmates, Villa fans as mates, lives etc just like our own. yet they choose to go to their ground and be anti villa.

And if they're exactly like us what do you think they're making of our turmoil? Sympathetic because they've been through it? No, they'll be laughing at it as will most clubs. If we were facing financial meltdown do you think they'd be trying to raise money for us? course not.

If Coventry, or our friends in Bordesley, were to disappear over night I really wouldn't care less and no amount of altruistic 'We're All Football fans' camaraderie would make me think any differently. 89 other clubs mean little to me but they don't spend their times hating us. 2 do. i won't delight in Coventry's troubles but neither will I feel for them.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: davevillan on March 25, 2011, 10:30:12 PM
To think Ranson would have owned our club instead of RL...

We have a lot to thank old Herbert for
The same Ranson who claimed he had big plans for Villa!! Just think, it could have been us.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 25, 2011, 10:34:01 PM
Because of the point I made earlier. If you know a club's fans despise your own then anything that happens to them is not going to cause a ripple of sympathy for me. Yes, they are people who have kids, families, workmates, Villa fans as mates, lives etc just like our own. yet they choose to go to their ground and be anti villa.

And if they're exactly like us what do you think they're making of our turmoil? Sympathetic because they've been through it? No, they'll be laughing at it as will most clubs. If we were facing financial meltdown do you think they'd be trying to raise money for us? course not.

If Coventry, or our friends in Bordesley, were to disappear over night I really wouldn't care less and no amount of altruistic 'We're All Football fans' camaraderie would make me think any differently. 89 other clubs mean little to me but they don't spend their times hating us. 2 do. i won't delight in Coventry's troubles but neither will I feel for them.

As I said - how many of them hate us, and how many aren't all that fussed? I sometimes think we get a  lot more worked up about Coventry than they do about us.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
DC have u had the pleasure of that walk back from Highfield to the station
DC have u had the pleasure of that walk back from Highfield to the station

Yep, a few times, and I don't hold a grudge against ALL Coventry fans because some of them are dickheads. Have you seen how some of our own knob jockeys act, smashing up toilets etc?
The majority of Coventry fans are no different to you or I, actually scrub that, they are no different to me, I'm not entirely sure about you.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: peter w on March 25, 2011, 10:45:14 PM
Because of the point I made earlier. If you know a club's fans despise your own then anything that happens to them is not going to cause a ripple of sympathy for me. Yes, they are people who have kids, families, workmates, Villa fans as mates, lives etc just like our own. yet they choose to go to their ground and be anti villa.

And if they're exactly like us what do you think they're making of our turmoil? Sympathetic because they've been through it? No, they'll be laughing at it as will most clubs. If we were facing financial meltdown do you think they'd be trying to raise money for us? course not.

If Coventry, or our friends in Bordesley, were to disappear over night I really wouldn't care less and no amount of altruistic 'We're All Football fans' camaraderie would make me think any differently. 89 other clubs mean little to me but they don't spend their times hating us. 2 do. i won't delight in Coventry's troubles but neither will I feel for them.

As I said - how many of them hate us, and how many aren't all that fussed? I sometimes think we get a  lot more worked up about Coventry than they do about us.

Maybe on a Villa forum talking about other clubs but I bet if you went around Villa Park and the Ricoh Arena and canvassed opinions about each other's clubs it would be apparent who gets more worked up about whom.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 10:47:23 PM
There was a good piece by a Cov fan in WSC recently. Almost prophetic, really. Just observing how the team perpetually have nothing to play for, in front of strangely passive crowds slowly dwindling away to nothing. The club has just atrophied since relegation
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 10:48:43 PM
I like and respect you dave cooper and dave woodhall and agree with most of your views but believe me having lived here and worked here for 30 yrs you are underestimating the dislike of Aston villa in this city - there are few Coventry fans I know who  do not dislike us but by far the majority I know that hate us and I do not say hate lightly.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 25, 2011, 10:52:03 PM
I like you dave cooper and dave woodhall and agree with most of your views but believe me having lived here and worked here for 30 yrs you are underestimating the dislike of Aston villa in this city - there are few Coventry fans I know who  do not dislike us but by far the majority I know that hate us and I do not say hate lightly.

Strange, and oft-overused, word, hate.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 10:52:49 PM
But hatred is just small-mindedness. Be indifferent by all means but gloating at somebody else's misfortune is just bad karma
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: curiousorange on March 25, 2011, 10:52:52 PM
There was a good piece by a Cov fan in WSC recently. Almost prophetic, really. Just observing how the team perpetually have nothing to play for, in front of strangely passive crowds slowly dwindling away to nothing. The club has just atrophied since relegation

That's what I fear for our team.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: peter w on March 25, 2011, 10:54:51 PM
But hatred is just small-mindedness. Be indifferent by all means but gloating at somebody else's misfortune is just bad karma

i haven't seen people here gloating. Just not caring.

i wouldn't say people 'hate' either as that is just a term used in place of 'don't like a lot' frequently.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: curiousorange on March 25, 2011, 10:57:11 PM
But hatred is just small-mindedness. Be indifferent by all means but gloating at somebody else's misfortune is just bad karma

i haven't seen people here gloating. Just not caring.

i wouldn't say people 'hate' either as that is just a term used in place of 'don't like a lot' frequently.

Funny thing, karma. You don't notice it's there until it's working against you.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 10:57:48 PM
Randy Lerner is the big difference. I remember reading an interview with Ranson after he took over at Cov and thinking what a bullshitter he was, full of bollocks business-speak. Like he'd swallowed an MBA syllabus and was coughing it up one chunk at a time.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: curiousorange on March 25, 2011, 10:59:14 PM
Randy Lerner is the big difference. I remember reading an interview with Ranson after he took over at Cov and thinking what a bullshitter he was, full of bollocks business-speak. Like he'd swallowed an MBA syllabus and was coughing it up one chunk at a time.

Working for the NHS I see a lot of that. One thing I read today said we need to 'knock over the silos that are in front of us'.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Exeter 77 on March 25, 2011, 11:00:13 PM
Having worked with a fair few Cov fans over the years I always thought their attitude was one of sibling rivalry. Villa are their more successful and better looking older brother.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 11:00:17 PM
Silos?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 11:03:48 PM
Last year I went to buy a villa top at world of football but there were none on display yet the day before is seen some, I asked if they were having anymore in and was told they had them but has removed them from display because people were spitting on them- I'm sure people living here would back me up that you would not publicly wear a villa shirt in a pub or park etc , as you would be asking for risk of being punched or spat on , not someone friendly boo I don't like villa.


As a poster on earlier page said , until you live here you really do not realise the hatred towards Aston villa in this city.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 11:05:11 PM
I am not lighting any candles but every time a football club goes down the toilet it diminishes the game a little bit.

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: vilan461 on March 25, 2011, 11:06:09 PM
I hate modern football but I am finding it hard to get emotional about Coventry.

This is my internet persona  speaking. In reality, I might be dismayed and concerned by these events. Then again, I might well be cracking open the bubbly at the demise of the Felcher bastards. who knows?
Thank you wiki!  I have had many years abuse from their fans as they hate us with a passion that you wouldn't believe unless you lived in the city.

For some reason villa and our fans are referred to as the scum .
Bang on , i live 1 mile from The Ricoh---and i know loads of their fans---they really hate all things Villa,i get abuse walking down the street in a Villa shirt,getting the car ready for a game,( i cannot leave any item in the  car that is Clarert &Blue overnight, had a window smashed once)in the local ale houses,in my local club,playing cricket,used to when i played football,at work in fact every dam  where ---nah f**k em i say,yeh they might have a few decent fans but these are a very wee  number in comparison---if they go under i couldnt give a flying fig get em out get Nuneaton Town or Tamworth to take their place,
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: timeoutbigbar on March 25, 2011, 11:08:25 PM
Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.

Remember the first year I had a season ticket as a kid when we played them at VP their fans were ansolute c***s.  Memories of that day still stand out and i hate them with a passion.  Fuck em.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 11:09:29 PM
Crikey, this thread is like a group therapy session for abuse victims.

Thank you for sharing
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on March 25, 2011, 11:11:27 PM
Silos?

We keep being told to stop working in silos at work, but I think they misunderstood and really mean silage.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Lizz on March 25, 2011, 11:11:49 PM
At the risk of sounding patronsing, for the rest of the country who don't give a shit about the Midlands, I suspect they are slightly more aware/interested in Birmingham than Coventry. Hence some Coventry fans dislike of Villa.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Ian. on March 25, 2011, 11:13:59 PM
Crikey, this thread is like a group therapy session for abuse victims.

Thank you for sharing


Hello, my name is Ian. I once was called scum by a man a light blue shirt and a inflatable FA Cup.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 11:14:32 PM
Welcome Ian. Does anybody else want to share?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 11:15:24 PM
Strangely they don't really seem to give a toss about blues even though their ground is just up the a45.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 11:17:51 PM
If Villa are ever in this position, you can bet your life there will be Coventry forums full of bollocks about how all Villa fans are scum and that they are glad we are in the shit because there isn't a decent bloke amongst our support.
We will know that it's a bag of crap because we know that most of us are just ordinary folk who happen to support a football club, but obviously that isn't the case for any other clubs because they only have arseholes who support them, right?

Like fuck, get a grip and realise that the majority of fans of every club are just like us, your (most probably) exaggerated claims of thuggery and hatred aside.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: timeoutbigbar on March 25, 2011, 11:18:41 PM
Crikey, this thread is like a group therapy session for abuse victims.

Thank you for sharing


Is it not? Oh sorry, must have the wrong room.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: vilan461 on March 25, 2011, 11:22:03 PM
girlfriend,s son had a new girlfriend 2 years ago, the first words she uttered to me were--"Villa Scum"  "we hate  Villa"
   charming young lady---still dont like her----but this is  a typical retort from their in-breds--
   sorry but can,t stand em, they really hate and despise Villa more than any other club!!!
 You ,ve got to live in the principality of Coventry to really see the hatred first hand.

     
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 11:22:59 PM
Dave with respect and I do respect you , I think having lived and worked in Coventry for 30 years and known 100s of cov fans in those 30 yrs I am a bit more aware of their feelings towards villa than you are.

I suggest you visit one of their forums and offer your best wishes to them from a decent villa fan and see what kind or response you get. Let me assure you nothing said has been exaggerated.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 25, 2011, 11:23:23 PM
When Crawley Town go tits up Dave Cooper won't be giving their weeping fans a big manhug. He will be letting off fire extinguishers and doing the conga
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Stu on March 25, 2011, 11:32:45 PM
girlfriend,s son had a new girlfriend 2 years ago, the first words she uttered to me were--"Villa Scum"  "we hate  Villa"
   charming young lady---still dont like her----but this is  a typical retort from their in-breds--
   sorry but can,t stand em, they really hate and despise Villa more than any other club!!!
 You ,ve got to live in the principality of Coventry to really see the hatred first hand.

     

I've had a bit of that but its all been light hearted. The blokes that I know are far more interested in Leicester these days, they haven't played us for 10 years now after all.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 25, 2011, 11:40:23 PM
Last year I went to buy a villa top at world of football but there were none on display yet the day before is seen some, I asked if they were having anymore in and was told they had them but has removed them from display because people were spitting on them- I'm sure people living here would back me up that you would not publicly wear a villa shirt in a pub or park etc , as you would be asking for risk of being punched or spat on , not someone friendly boo I don't like villa.


As a poster on earlier page said , until you live here you really do not realise the hatred towards Aston villa in this city.
I go to the Godiva festival most years,and have a smack twice because of my villa tattoo.I won't be crying in my beer if they go tit's up.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 25, 2011, 11:41:54 PM
Stu, did you see Leicester v cov live on BBC last season when for most of the 2nd half the cov fans were constantly chanting 'shit on the villa'?

It was commented on by many that night on this site.
Still the chant that rings round the ricoh is ' shit on the villa'- Leicester are nowhere near thought about in the way of villa.

Maybe when you've had your windows put through more than once as the other lad has had as well as me then you would take it as not light hearted banter.

Browse their websites and see what they think of us still even 10 yrs on from relegation, this was a problem in the 70s when they used to sing at school the old chimchimeney song we hate the bastards in claret and blue.-it's not a recent thing.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 25, 2011, 11:43:19 PM
If Villa are ever in this position, you can bet your life there will be Coventry forums full of bollocks about how all Villa fans are scum and that they are glad we are in the shit because there isn't a decent bloke amongst our support.
We will know that it's a bag of crap because we know that most of us are just ordinary folk who happen to support a football club, but obviously that isn't the case for any other clubs because they only have arseholes who support them, right?

Like fuck, get a grip and realise that the majority of fans of every club are just like us, your (most probably) exaggerated claims of thuggery and hatred aside.
I think i am going to be sick.What a load of old wank.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 11:45:49 PM
When Crawley Town go tits up Dave Cooper won't be giving their weeping fans a big manhug. He will be letting off fire extinguishers and doing the conga

Until Crawley got their sugar-daddy they had very few fans, when the inevitable happens I will feel for those who were there when it looked like they were on their way to oblivion, I met a few of those and they are genuinely decent fans, of those who have leapt on the money-fed bandwagon, well they'll just go back to supporting Arsenal so it won't bother them.

Luckily for non-league fans, they know the score, they know there is as much fun (or more) forming a new fans club a few divisions lower.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 25, 2011, 11:49:27 PM
If Villa are ever in this position, you can bet your life there will be Coventry forums full of bollocks about how all Villa fans are scum and that they are glad we are in the shit because there isn't a decent bloke amongst our support.
We will know that it's a bag of crap because we know that most of us are just ordinary folk who happen to support a football club, but obviously that isn't the case for any other clubs because they only have arseholes who support them, right?

Like fuck, get a grip and realise that the majority of fans of every club are just like us, your (most probably) exaggerated claims of thuggery and hatred aside.
I think i am going to be sick.What a load of old wank.

Nice, well-thought out response there.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 25, 2011, 11:50:21 PM
If Villa are ever in this position, you can bet your life there will be Coventry forums full of bollocks about how all Villa fans are scum and that they are glad we are in the shit because there isn't a decent bloke amongst our support.
We will know that it's a bag of crap because we know that most of us are just ordinary folk who happen to support a football club, but obviously that isn't the case for any other clubs because they only have arseholes who support them, right?

Like fuck, get a grip and realise that the majority of fans of every club are just like us, your (most probably) exaggerated claims of thuggery and hatred aside.
I think i am going to be sick.What a load of old wank.

So what are you saying then?
Only Villa have decent fans? Coventry only have knobs as fans? All opposition fans must be hated? What?
It's only a fucking game, we really are all the same apart from wearing different colours every now and again, honest!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 25, 2011, 11:56:51 PM
If Villa are ever in this position, you can bet your life there will be Coventry forums full of bollocks about how all Villa fans are scum and that they are glad we are in the shit because there isn't a decent bloke amongst our support.
We will know that it's a bag of crap because we know that most of us are just ordinary folk who happen to support a football club, but obviously that isn't the case for any other clubs because they only have arseholes who support them, right?

Like fuck, get a grip and realise that the majority of fans of every club are just like us, your (most probably) exaggerated claims of thuggery and hatred aside.
I think i am going to be sick.What a load of old wank.

So what are you saying then?
Only Villa have decent fans? Coventry only have knobs as fans? All opposition fans must be hated? What?
It's only a fucking game, we really are all the same apart from wearing different colours every now and again, honest!

Do you really think if the shoe was on the other foot,we would get anybody from Coventry crying for us.There would be a public holiday and street parties would make a come back.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 12:01:51 AM
Careful bigad, the one light at the end of their tunnel is villa going down, that would be awful in the extreme.

I still have nightmares about going down to wembley with andy Blair on the train to watch their cup final with a free ticket and we had just been relegated the week before.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 26, 2011, 12:03:12 AM
Do you really think if the shoe was on the other foot,we would get anybody from Coventry crying for us.There would be a public holiday and street parties would make a come back.

Yes of course there would.

But in the real world there would be a load of bollocks written on the internet, a bit of piss-taking and that's about it. There will even be some sensible Coventry fans who might think that a local football club going out of business to be a bad thing, but I don't suppose you'll think that could happen, after all, all opposition fans are scum, yes?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: timeoutbigbar on March 26, 2011, 12:06:44 AM
I wasn't saying from my point that ALL cov fans are like that, but in general the masses are represented by the few, and the few that i've encountered haven't given me much hope for the masses.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 26, 2011, 12:08:45 AM
Do you really think if the shoe was on the other foot,we would get anybody from Coventry crying for us.There would be a public holiday and street parties would make a come back.

Yes of course there would.

But in the real world there would be a load of bollocks written on the internet, a bit of piss-taking and that's about it. There will even be some sensible Coventry fans who might think that a local football club going out of business to be a bad thing, but I don't suppose you'll think that could happen, after all, all opposition fans are scum, yes?
Dave, EVERYBODY hates to see any football club go out of business,but when a local team who have been a rival in the past goes bump a lot of people will snigger for a bit.I include myself as one of those.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 12:10:28 AM
Coventry have some decent fans of course they do, but what we are saying is there's not just a few who hate villa , it is a large percentage . It would be interesting to try to get a poll of their thought s on villa on one of their forums to see just how high that percentage is.

I don't hate Coventry , I have been on freebies to the ricoh and watched them but after what I've put up with down the years I will shed no tears to see them in administration either. 
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 26, 2011, 12:12:03 AM
I wasn't saying from my point that ALL cov fans are like that, but in general the masses are represented by the few, and the few that i've encountered haven't given me much hope for the masses.

The loudest always make the most noise!
If we go by your statement, all Villa fans are inarticulate gobshites who smash up toilets and throw flares, after all that is what I have seen in the press recently, so they must represent the masses of villa fans, no?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: vilan461 on March 26, 2011, 12:13:37 AM
We aint talking about all opposition fans here only Coventry City fans!all clubs have decent supporters, and most have some right nut- buckets,
   Sorry but eastie,bigad 82 and myself have all experienced  abuse at the hands of their fans at first hand--and i find it real alarming  and quite disappointing to find that some of our fellow Villans seem to be taking us to task ,and actually defending  the Coventry fans? wait till its your car window with a brick through, or your shirt spat, on or you get a smack becoz you dared to  show your luv for the Villa on display by means of a tattoo on display in Coventry---!!see if you are still standing their corner then!!!!!

  un f*****g believable,!!!! unity or what???
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: timeoutbigbar on March 26, 2011, 12:15:49 AM
I wasn't saying from my point that ALL cov fans are like that, but in general the masses are represented by the few, and the few that i've encountered haven't given me much hope for the masses.

The loudest always make the most noise!
If we go by your statement, all Villa fans are inarticulate gobshites who smash up toilets and throw flares, after all that is what I have seen in the press recently, so they must represent the masses of villa fans, no?

They let the club down, and those opposing fans at the game may carry that prejudice with them solely because of incidents like that.  I gave my opinion and said that was how i felt, and i can imagine many others might feel the same way because of their experiences.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 26, 2011, 12:19:12 AM
We aint talking about all opposition fans here only Coventry City fans!all clubs have decent supporters, and most have some right nut- buckets,
   Sorry but eastie,bigad 82 and myself have all experienced  abuse at the hands of their fans at first hand--and i find it real alarming  and quite disappointing to find that some of our fellow Villans seem to be taking us to task and actually defending the Coventry fans????
  un f*****g believable,!!!!

You find it alarming and unbelievable that some people prefer to make their own minds up based on their own experience rather than pander to prejudice? Remind me of that next time you're treated badly because you're a football supporter.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 26, 2011, 12:19:52 AM
No, I'm defending the majority of Coventry fans, who, just like the majority of Villa fans, are perfectly ordinary, decent people who happen to support a football club. Most of us have had abuse at football games, it goes with the territory when you go to football games where you just know that a tiny minority are just there to act like ******.
But you go ahead and pretend that there's some sort of irreconcilable rivalry between us, it's all in your tiny mind, but you go ahead!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: phantom limb on March 26, 2011, 12:20:18 AM
My boss's son plays for Coventry.

I enjoyed them getting relegated, but liquidation and the subsequent nothingness is possibly a step too far. They're fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things, unless we get relegated and have to fight them on the beaches (aka the horrific grey streets of limbo and ultimate shitness). Coventry really is shit.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 12:20:37 AM
Like I say Villan, we have lived and worked here many years but I too find it sad some people are questioning our comments and exaggerations?

Believe me until you have lived here you would not believe it.
 
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 26, 2011, 12:23:44 AM
Daves C & W, I salute your endeavours.

It's scary and a bit depressing what people will think, write and say in the name of being a football fan.

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 12:24:25 AM
To both daves, I have lived and worked here 30 yrs , I thinking know more about Coventry fans opinions than you , and im sorry you do not believe me.

I respect you both but on this occasion you are wrong, and if you lived here would see that at 1st hand .
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 26, 2011, 12:28:27 AM
It's not just the football where you get abuse in Coventry,I have had it at the dogs and the ice hockey.The speedway crowd were a nice bunch.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 26, 2011, 12:29:45 AM
Like I say Villan, we have lived and worked here many years but I too find it sad some people are questioning our comments and exaggerations?

Believe me until you have lived here you would not believe it.
 

So your life in Coventry is just one big overwhelming tragedy of continual abuse and beatings because you support Villa huh?
Spat on and abused by the hordes of sky blue clad vigilantes, never going out after dark in case the Jimmy Hill Brown Shirts are lurking, waiting to taunt you to within an inch of your life about how they have won the FA Cup more times since 1958 than Villa have.
Or did someone once tell you that they think Villa are shit?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 26, 2011, 12:31:59 AM
Like I say Villan, we have lived and worked here many years but I too find it sad some people are questioning our comments and exaggerations?

Believe me until you have lived here you would not believe it.
 

So your life in Coventry is just one big overwhelming tragedy of continual abuse and beatings because you support Villa huh?
Spat on and abused by the hordes of sky blue clad vigilantes, never going out after dark in case the Jimmy Hill Brown Shirts are lurking, waiting to taunt you to within an inch of your life about how they have won the FA Cup more times since 1958 than Villa have.
Or did someone once tell you that they think Villa are shit?
Sounds like a night in Tile Hill.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 12:33:55 AM
I'm sad you see my views in that way dave, nothing said was exaggerated by me but your post greatly exaggerates it there- best wishes to you anyway , I was being sincere and honest.
Sadly the fact I support villa is something nowadays I keep quiet about and do not wear colours in public.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: phantom limb on March 26, 2011, 12:37:28 AM
I was brought up to believe that Coventry is the epicentre of demonic filth and pain. I went there to visit a museum during a sunny afternoon, and let's just say that I and the children never mention that day, mainly due to the demonic filth and pain.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 26, 2011, 12:37:42 AM
When was the last time the Tamworth played Coventry?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 26, 2011, 12:45:55 AM
When was the last time the Tamworth played Coventry?

1971. Camkin Cup final at Highfield Road, Tamworth won 2-1.

Not sure of the relevance of your question though.

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 26, 2011, 12:47:44 AM
When was the last time the Tamworth played Coventry?

1971. Camkin Cup final at Highfield Road, Tamworth won 2-1.

Not sure of the relevance of your question though.


Have you been to Highfield Road when more than 300 people have been in it?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 26, 2011, 12:51:08 AM
I'm sad you see my views in that way dave, nothing said was exaggerated by me but your post greatly exaggerates it there- best wishes to you anyway , I was being sincere and honest.
Sadly the fact I support villa is something nowadays I keep quiet about and do not wear colours in public.

Didn't you say previously that you're 45? If so it's probably best that you give club colours a rest for reasons of personal dignity.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 26, 2011, 12:56:18 AM
I'm sad you see my views in that way dave, nothing said was exaggerated by me but your post greatly exaggerates it there- best wishes to you anyway , I was being sincere and honest.
Sadly the fact I support villa is something nowadays I keep quiet about and do not wear colours in public.

Didn't you say previously that you're 45? If so it's probably best that you give club colours a rest for reasons of personal dignity.
Now that's funny I'm 39.........oh shit.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: vilan461 on March 26, 2011, 01:10:15 AM
Sorry that you feel that way,yeh ive had abuse at grounds it goes with the territory,
 but all i was trying to point out was that the 3  "exaggerated" instances referred to all occoured away from the football ground arena:
                         spitting---in a shop in the City Centre,
                          smacking---at a music festival in the Summer time -out of the football season
                          car window -- on my drive overnight when i had travelled back from a Sunderland away game and was too tired  and forgot to remove a Villa Scarfe from the car window, obviously my own fault, living in Sky Blue Land
         
   
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Ian. on March 26, 2011, 06:06:52 AM
We aint talking about all opposition fans here only Coventry City fans!all clubs have decent supporters, and most have some right nut- buckets,
   Sorry but eastie,bigad 82 and myself have all experienced  abuse at the hands of their fans at first hand--and i find it real alarming  and quite disappointing to find that some of our fellow Villans seem to be taking us to task ,and actually defending  the Coventry fans? wait till its your car window with a brick through, or your shirt spat, on or you get a smack becoz you dared to  show your luv for the Villa on display by means of a tattoo on display in Coventry---!!see if you are still standing their corner then!!!!!

  un f*****g believable,!!!! unity or what???
I see a slight contradiction there.....So all clubs except Coventry have good fans?
Sorry but my wife's family are from Coventry, most of them support Coventry and are a great family. Her uncle is one of the nicest people (when he's not throwing bricks through car windows  ;) ) to walk the planet.

Unity? So would you defend the Villa fan I saw against Arsenal in a cup match just launching into a middle aged fella unprovoked?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 06:59:02 AM
How bloody stupid of those of us who live and work in coventry to think we maybe know more about what goes on in the city and the the depth of anti villa  feeling-of course someone who neither lives or works here knows far more about it than we woud ever do.

reminds me of an stevie wonder song !
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 26, 2011, 07:08:11 AM
On the subject of the hand wringing over their demise and the effect it will have on their local economy, there was not one person on here who didn't gloat when we sent Newcastle down, they then had to make a few redundancies at the club, as do all clubs that go through the trap door.

I didn't see any self flagellation over that.



As for Coventry, they won't go out of business.
there is always some prat who'll take a club like that on, they're not exactly non league.

Also, Eastie lives there, so I think i'll take his word on how they feel about us over there, added to the work I did with a lot of them a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 07:13:11 AM
well said fletch , portsmouth are living proof of that and have had a reasonable season all things considered.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 07:25:36 AM
The old Highfield Rd, what a tip
Remember the old disabled 3 wheeler cars parked around the edge of the pitch ? WTF !!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: charlie659 on March 26, 2011, 07:31:41 AM
Because of the point I made earlier. If you know a club's fans despise your own then anything that happens to them is not going to cause a ripple of sympathy for me. Yes, they are people who have kids, families, workmates, Villa fans as mates, lives etc just like our own. yet they choose to go to their ground and be anti villa.

And if they're exactly like us what do you think they're making of our turmoil? Sympathetic because they've been through it? No, they'll be laughing at it as will most clubs. If we were facing financial meltdown do you think they'd be trying to raise money for us? course not.

If Coventry, or our friends in Bordesley, were to disappear over night I really wouldn't care less and no amount of altruistic 'We're All Football fans' camaraderie would make me think any differently. 89 other clubs mean little to me but they don't spend their times hating us. 2 do. i won't delight in Coventry's troubles but neither will I feel for them.

As I said - how many of them hate us, and how many aren't all that fussed? I sometimes think we get a  lot more worked up about Coventry than they do about us.
Speaking as someone who has lived amongst them, I can categorically confirm you're talking bollox Dave!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 07:32:41 AM
Morning wiki, ah the old sky blue 3 wheelers , I do indeed remember them, one of my neighbours used to drive in and watch the games there back in the mid 70s.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 07:35:23 AM
Eastie did they only let them in because they were sky blue ?
Had some rucks over the years at Cov, that walk back to the station used to be like a bit of a safari
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: kipeye on March 26, 2011, 07:37:51 AM
Morning wiki, ah the old sky blue 3 wheelers , I do indeed remember them, one of my neighbours used to drive in and watch the games there back in the mid 70s.
I always thought that was the players car park.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 07:42:21 AM
Ha wiki, I remember one Xmas when we lost 3-0 at the time we were top under big Ron- boy did that ruin my festivities , but in the main we won far more than we lost.

I believe they didn't beat us from 1937 up to about the 90s home or away and that may have a lot to do with their feelings towards us?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 07:45:35 AM
Ha wiki, I remember one Xmas when we lost 3-0 at the time we were top under big Ron- boy did that ruin my festivities , but in the main we won far more than we lost.

I believe they didn't beat us from 1937 up to about the 90s home or away and that may have a lot to do with their feelings towards us?
Think I was at that game, the flying pig (Micky Quinn) got a hat-trick ?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 07:55:11 AM
Not sure it was a hat trick , I thought he got a couple and drinkell got one , but you may be right.

Were you there in the semi replay in 77 I think it was against qpr, the place was rocking that night?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 26, 2011, 07:58:36 AM
The one that sticks in my mind is, I think, 1989, we lost 2-1 after Platt had put us in front with a chip.
As I recall, we were seperated from the Coventry fans by a large clear perspex barrier.

The abuse from them was the worst i've heard in 36 years of supporting us.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 08:02:42 AM
The best was probably the day Savo broke his duck and scored a couple there in a 3-0 win - hugely enjoyable as was the time when Ian Taylor bagged a couple the 2nd of which Merse was yards offside before setting him up- I remember their crowd went berserk over it.

The game you refer to fletch was I think their 1st win home or away over us in 53 years.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 26, 2011, 08:21:53 AM
I dont wish anything so bad on Coventry City or any other club. However,  if modern footballs mad finances did eventually have to result in say 3 major casualities they would be one of my choices. Along with Leeds and probably West Ham. 
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 08:33:18 AM
I think we even managed to win there under Billy McNeil ? 1-0
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: olaftab on March 26, 2011, 08:38:29 AM
So that makes you 235 then?!

That is how old I feel since Rene has been "managing" us!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on March 26, 2011, 08:39:49 AM
Not sure it was a hat trick , I thought he got a couple and drinkell got one , but you may be right.


I always thought it was a Micky Quinn hat-trick - although looked on Premier legue records and its not listed so you might be right. It was a thoroughly shit day for all Villa fans present and sadly for the sky blues that I know is regarded as one of the best days in Coventry Citys history. One of the worrying things I came across said that we had an undisclosed bid for Quinny rejected before he joined Cov!

I got a text from a Cov fan after the Sunderland game when we fell into the bottom 3 saying "I've been waiting for this day for years - you're shit" - I get similar abuse after every goal conceded and defeat this season. I accept this is part of football and don't hold it against him especially as they have fuck all else to do than bait Villa fans these days. 

Did anyone hear the "We hate Villa more than you" chant in the recent dog shit derby at St Andrews? They're like a Villa hating sleeper cell but I wouldn't want them extinct.

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 08:41:42 AM
Yep we won 7 games all season including the double over them- I think at villa park the gate was only about 12000 but I may be wrong.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: olaftab on March 26, 2011, 08:43:44 AM
Not sure it was a hat trick , I thought he got a couple and drinkell got one , but you may be right.


Yes blubber Quinn did  get a hat trick. It was an easy one as for all 3 goals he knocked in loose balls. If he needed to move it would have been a different story!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: john e on March 26, 2011, 08:46:01 AM
you will be hard pressed to find any former profesional club that has ever ceased to exist in some form.
you can still go and watch Wimbledon, Acrington,Pompey, Luton all clubs that have at some time have been threatened with being wiped out
Coventry is a massive city, whatever happens they will always have a football club to support, even if they have to drop down a league or two
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dicedlam on March 26, 2011, 08:55:19 AM
Like I say Villan, we have lived and worked here many years but I too find it sad some people are questioning our comments and exaggerations?

Believe me until you have lived here you would not believe it.
 

Believe me..you are over exaggerating.
I was directly involved with the club and development of the Ricoh and was a personal friend of Paul Fletcher the previous Chairman. Most people knew I was a Villa fan and I even presented the man of the match at one of there games, but there was never the dogs abuse you make out there is. Yes, they have mindless morons no different than we have, but to class all Cov fans Villa haters is bollocks...and believe me I know..I also live amongst them.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 26, 2011, 08:55:55 AM
Yep we won 7 games all season including the double over them- I think at villa park the gate was only about 12000 but I may be wrong.

18,689 at VP.  Paul Birch got the only goal.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 08:59:34 AM
Sorry lads, just looked it up and Quinn did only score 2 goals that day in the 52nd and 55th minutes, Rosario got the third on 59 minutes.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 09:04:39 AM


Thanks andy , maybe highfield road was 11000?

What was our Southampton home Gate that season out of interest please?
i remember it being very sparse that afternoon.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 09:10:55 AM
Wasn't Southampton about 8500
Dave W posted the figure couple of weeks back
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 09:19:02 AM
Sorry lads, just looked it up and Quinn did only score 2 goals that day in the 52nd and 55th minutes, Rosario got the third on 59 minutes, checked out now on 2 sources and definately rosario with the 3rd.
still an awful boxing day though!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 26, 2011, 09:21:01 AM
At least everyone seems to remember they're a football club, not a terrorist organisation
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 26, 2011, 09:21:45 AM
Southampton home was in the October 16,211.
Lowest league crowds at VP that season were 12,304 against Norwich and 12,484 against Wimbledon.
That was in the days when you would count the Wimbledon away following and have a debate with your mates whether they had brought 43 or 44.
Season average was 18,171.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 09:22:08 AM
Sorry lads, just looked it up and Quinn did only score 2 goals that day in the 52nd and 55th minutes, Rosario got the third on 59 minutes, checked out now on 2 sources and definately rosario with the 3rd.
still an awful boxing day though!

One of quinns was a diving header, that's about all I recall from that shite day
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: olaftab on March 26, 2011, 09:23:39 AM
Clearly we walked out at 2-0!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 09:26:35 AM
I'm sure Southampton is our lowest home gate
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 26, 2011, 09:27:11 AM
I remember George Boateng taking us to the cleaners in a performance he never replicated.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 09:29:14 AM
I remember George Boateng taking us to the cleaners in a performance he never replicated.
Yep fa cup at B6
2-4 ?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 09:30:11 AM
Southampton home was in the October 16,211.
Lowest league crowds at VP that season were 12,304 against Norwich and 12,484 against Wimbledon.
That was in the days when you would count the Wimbledon away following and have a debate with your mates whether they had brought 43 or 44.
Season average was 18,171.

 Sorry andy i was thinking of 85-86
coventry home was 12,198 and southampton home was 8,456 , and both games were dreadful draws.
The crowd at highfield road was 10000, a 3-3 drawand i remember withey in goal i think?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 09:31:53 AM
I remember George Boateng taking us to the cleaners in a performance he never replicated.
Yep fa cup at B6
2-4 ?
1-4 still known in coventry as the valentines day massacre, indeed that was the video cover title of the game, needless to say it sold extremely well.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 26, 2011, 09:32:04 AM
I don't remember the details, just a frustration at the Luftwaffe's lack of thoroughness
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bob on March 26, 2011, 09:35:54 AM
There was a good piece by a Cov fan in WSC recently. Almost prophetic, really. Just observing how the team perpetually have nothing to play for, in front of strangely passive crowds slowly dwindling away to nothing. The club has just atrophied since relegation

One of my best friends is a Cov fan. Yesterday he told me they were the only club to have never finished in the top 6 in any division in the last 50 years or something like that.

He, and all Cov fans I have ever met, without exception, will say they 'hate' the Villa. They must give them a manifesto about how to respond as it is without doubt ingrained in all of their psyches. It winds them up more if you act indifferent. They 'hate' because the rivally is not reciprocal. Vila have always had bigger fish to fry, and their envy manifests itself as 'hate' as they would personally choose to describe it.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 09:39:27 AM

There was a good piece by a Cov fan in WSC recently. Almost prophetic, really. Just observing how the team perpetually have nothing to play for, in front of strangely passive crowds slowly dwindling away to nothing. The club has just atrophied since relegation

One of my best friends is a Cov fan. Yesterday he told me they were the only club to have never finished in the top 6 in any division in the last 50 years or something like that.

He, and all Cov fans I have ever met, without exception, will say they 'hate' the Villa. They must give them a manifesto about how to respond as it is without doubt ingrained in all of their psyches. It winds them up more if you act indifferent. They 'hate' because the rivally is not reciprocal. Vila have always had bigger fish to fry, and their envy manifests itself as 'hate' as they would personally choose to describe it.

Hes wrong there bob as they won the league division 2 title under jimmy hill and finished 6th qualifying for europe a couple of years later, over the last 40 yrs however they have never finished in the top 6 in any league.

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: LeeB on March 26, 2011, 09:40:53 AM
Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.

Amen brother Fletch.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 26, 2011, 09:43:37 AM
Eastie, maybe it's not the Villa, maybe it's you. I never get any grief.

In fact, since the jury brought back that 'death by misadventure' verdict nobody mentions football much at all
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 09:46:22 AM
Eastie, maybe it's not the Villa, maybe it's you. I never get any grief.

In fact, since the jury brought back that 'death by misadventure' verdict nobody mentions football much at all

You live in east dulwich so why would you get grief for being a villa fan?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 26, 2011, 09:50:10 AM

There was a good piece by a Cov fan in WSC recently. Almost prophetic, really. Just observing how the team perpetually have nothing to play for, in front of strangely passive crowds slowly dwindling away to nothing. The club has just atrophied since relegation

One of my best friends is a Cov fan. Yesterday he told me they were the only club to have never finished in the top 6 in any division in the last 50 years or something like that.

He, and all Cov fans I have ever met, without exception, will say they 'hate' the Villa. They must give them a manifesto about how to respond as it is without doubt ingrained in all of their psyches. It winds them up more if you act indifferent. They 'hate' because the rivally is not reciprocal. Vila have always had bigger fish to fry, and their envy manifests itself as 'hate' as they would personally choose to describe it.

Hes wrong there bob as they won the league division 2 title under jimmy hill and finished 6th qualifying for europe a couple of years later, over the last 40 yrs however they have never finished in the top 6 in any league.



Yes, didnt they go up with Wolves in 1967 as we passed the other way?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 09:51:36 AM

There was a good piece by a Cov fan in WSC recently. Almost prophetic, really. Just observing how the team perpetually have nothing to play for, in front of strangely passive crowds slowly dwindling away to nothing. The club has just atrophied since relegation

One of my best friends is a Cov fan. Yesterday he told me they were the only club to have never finished in the top 6 in any division in the last 50 years or something like that.

He, and all Cov fans I have ever met, without exception, will say they 'hate' the Villa. They must give them a manifesto about how to respond as it is without doubt ingrained in all of their psyches. It winds them up more if you act indifferent. They 'hate' because the rivally is not reciprocal. Vila have always had bigger fish to fry, and their envy manifests itself as 'hate' as they would personally choose to describe it.

Hes wrong there bob as they won the league division 2 title under jimmy hill and finished 6th qualifying for europe a couple of years later, over the last 40 yrs however they have never finished in the top 6 in any league.



Yes, didnt they go up with Wolves in 1967 as we passed the other way?

yes they beat wolves 2-1 in the last game to clinch the title in front of 52,000 at highfield road.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on March 26, 2011, 10:02:07 AM
Like someone said earlier, since we relegated them I aint really thought about them.

I don't particularly like them but would I want them to go out of business? No

Would I like Small heath to go out of business?...I'll get back to you ;)

Seriously though I think it says more about modern day football than anything, Who would have thought this would have happened? Just think if we go down we might have to sell our best players, If we don't come back up then we'll lose the sky money we could become another Cov. I doubt we'll go bust but I think our attendences would drop considerably. We could end up a mid table championship side..

Does not bear thinking about for me.

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 10:09:12 AM
Like someone said earlier, since we relegated them I aint really thought about them.

I don't particularly like them but would I want them to go out of business? No

Would I like Small heath to go out of business?...I'll get back to you ;)

Seriously though I think it says more about modern day football than anything, Who would have thought this would have happened? Just think if we go down we might have to sell our best players, If we don't come back up then we'll lose the sky money we could become another Cov. I doubt we'll go bust but I think our attendences would drop considerably. We could end up a mid table championship side..

Does not bear thinking about for me.



i think the crux of the matter is they sold their ground and have no ground of their own , they are paying rent toplay at the ricoh and have no saleable asset,their star player westwood is on a free and they werent allowed to let marlon king go to cardiff on loan to ease the wage bill due to the transfer embargio , one win in 18 games and they are not allowed any loan deals either.

ranson although chairman was one of several owners under the sisu group who bought the club in the aim of achieving promotion and a quick sale at profit , its all gone tits up and they have been losing £80000 a week on average for a couple of years , ive heard they havent paid many bills and even harry shaw the coach company who take them to games have not been paid bills owing to them.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 26, 2011, 10:09:13 AM
You can get grief for anything, anywhere if people find out how to push your buttons.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 26, 2011, 10:12:48 AM
Dont worry. Dougs got £30million in a 90 day notice buidling society account if we get short.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: SX150 on March 26, 2011, 10:35:42 AM
I too live in Coventry and have to say Eastie has it bang on as do a couple of others on here. If these  people don't know you personally then you have shit on your hands. I get on ok in a few local areas but trouble ain't far away when on nights out in other areas of Coventry. I always gave it them back and also mates would back you up but I'm passed all that crap now and try to turn a deaf ear. In general they are much like the "Dogshitters" not half as interested in themselves as they are "The Villa".
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 26, 2011, 10:38:47 AM
When was the last time the Tamworth played Coventry?

1971. Camkin Cup final at Highfield Road, Tamworth won 2-1.

Not sure of the relevance of your question though.


Have you been to Highfield Road when more than 300 people have been in it?

Several times, first time in about '79 I think, with my step-dad that one who was a bit of a Cov fan having moved down from Scotland for the car industry.
First time by myself was probably in '81 or '82, I don't have a photographic memory about games I've been to unlike some people I know!
Last time was sometime in the late-90's but by then I was starting to enjoy the non-league experience as much as Villa and didn't really do away games any more.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 10:39:38 AM
I too live in Coventry and have to say Eastie has it bang on as do a couple of others on here. If these  people don't know you personally then you have shit on your hands. I get on ok in a few local areas but trouble ain't far away when on nights out in other areas of Coventry. I always gave it them back and also mates would back you up but I'm passed all that crap now and try to turn a deaf ear. In general they are much like the "Dogshitters" not half as interested in themselves as they are "The Villa".

what area are you in?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: SX150 on March 26, 2011, 10:41:37 AM
Green Lane remember Eastie. 1/2 a mile up the road.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 10:43:22 AM
oh yes we spoke before ,didnt recognise the name.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 10:46:27 AM
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2011/03/25/coventry-city-under-transfer-embargo-as-financial-crisis-deepens-92746-28402001/

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2011/03/24/exclusive-ray-ranson-set-to-resign-as-coventry-city-chairman-92746-28395130/
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 26, 2011, 10:50:33 AM


He, and all Cov fans I have ever met, without exception, will say they 'hate' the Villa. They must give them a manifesto about how to respond as it is without doubt ingrained in all of their psyches. It winds them up more if you act indifferent. They 'hate' because the rivally is not reciprocal. Vila have always had bigger fish to fry, and their envy manifests itself as 'hate' as they would personally choose to describe it.

I think the problem is that they don't really have a local rival to 'hate', Coventry is out on it's own, their local teams are something like Bedworth, Nuneaton and Rugby, hardly going to develop any sort of rivalry there are they? (Well they might do if they go bust of course). So they have to look towards the Big City and then pick the biggest team in it to 'hate'.
It's not reciprocated because we have bigger teams to hate who are a lot closer.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 10:54:14 AM
like i said dave i think not beating us from 1937 for over 50 years i think has a lot to do with it as well,year by year seeing us celebrate victory over them must have rankled.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: SX150 on March 26, 2011, 10:57:08 AM
I went to a ladies darts presentation evening as a mates Mrs played darts for one of the rougher Coventry pubs. When I was recognised as a Villa fan all started turning nasty. Generally a bit of pushing and shoving and a couple of punches thrown. I was in good company however. Two nasty pubs on collision course but fortunately he new him etc and mutual respect was given between pubs. All this at a ladies darts presentation over me being a Villa fan.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 11:03:55 AM
I went to a ladies darts presentation evening as a mates Mrs played darts for one of the rougher Coventry pubs. When I was recognised as a Villa fan all started turning nasty. Generally a bit of pushing and shoving and a couple of punches thrown. I was in good company however. Two nasty pubs on collision course but fortunately he new him etc and mutual respect was given between pubs. All this at a ladies darts presentation over me being a Villa fan.

I know how it is my friend , like i said earlier i do not wear colours nowadays unless in my home or on holidays , and even then if the door knocks i always put on a jumper before answering, even the villa shirt goes in the dryer in summer while the rest gets hung out on the line , sad really.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 11:07:38 AM
 Eastie you ever considered moving ?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 11:11:49 AM
Eastie you ever considered moving ?

no chance mrs east would move-keep your head down and dont reveal who you support and its ok but it shouldnt be like that wiki.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: vilan461 on March 26, 2011, 11:19:00 AM
We aint talking about all opposition fans here only Coventry City fans!all clubs have decent supporters, and most have some right nut- buckets,
   Sorry but eastie,bigad 82 and myself have all experienced  abuse at the hands of their fans at first hand--and i find it real alarming  and quite disappointing to find that some of our fellow Villans seem to be taking us to task ,and actually defending  the Coventry fans? wait till its your car window with a brick through, or your shirt spat, on or you get a smack becoz you dared to  show your luv for the Villa on display by means of a tattoo on display in Coventry---!!see if you are still standing their corner then!!!!!

  un f*****g believable,!!!! unity or what???
I see a slight contradiction there.....So all clubs except Coventry have good fans?
Sorry but my wife's family are from Coventry, most of them support Coventry and are a great family. Her uncle is one of the nicest people (when he's not throwing bricks through car windows  ;) ) to walk the planet.

Unity? So would you defend the Villa fan I saw against Arsenal in a cup match just launching into a middle aged fella unprovoked?
   i too know and have known some decent Coventry fans indeed my late uncle was a season ticket holder at Highfield Rd ,and he was a smashing man.and ive worked and played football and cricket with some decent chaps,---i was  merely highlighting my own local experiences,as were the other guys-- seeing as -as this thread was about Coventry city,
  i did say" ALL football clubs"okay maybe i should have gone further and said Coventry included,
    and no i do not support any attack on fellow fans,by anyone, i would call that miscreant a "nut-bucket" also,and indeed would have asked him what the hell he thought he was doing!
 By unity (perhaps the wrong word,under-current would have been  better) what i meant, was i didnt expect so much flack from fellow Villa fans,just for relaying a personal true experience.
 
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: SX150 on March 26, 2011, 11:20:54 AM
Eastie you ever considered moving ?

no chance mrs east would move-keep your head down and dont reveal who you support and its ok but it shouldnt be like that wiki.
Keepin my head down and not letting on who you support has always been my problem. A rendition of "Shit on The Villa" seems to ignite a spark in me somehow. Mellowing with age though.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: vilan461 on March 26, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
We aint talking about all opposition fans here only Coventry City fans!all clubs have decent supporters, and most have some right nut- buckets,
   Sorry but eastie,bigad 82 and myself have all experienced  abuse at the hands of their fans at first hand--and i find it real alarming  and quite disappointing to find that some of our fellow Villans seem to be taking us to task ,and actually defending  the Coventry fans? wait till its your car window with a brick through, or your shirt spat, on or you get a smack becoz you dared to  show your luv for the Villa on display by means of a tattoo on display in Coventry---!!see if you are still standing their corner then!!!!!

  un f*****g believable,!!!! unity or what???
I see a slight contradiction there.....So all clubs except Coventry have good fans?
Sorry but my wife's family are from Coventry, most of them support Coventry and are a great family. Her uncle is one of the nicest people (when he's not throwing bricks through car windows  ;) ) to walk the planet.

Unity? So would you defend the Villa fan I saw against Arsenal in a cup match just launching into a middle aged fella unprovoked?
   i too know and have known some decent Coventry fans indeed my late uncle was a season ticket holder at Highfield Rd ,and he was a smashing man.and ive worked and played football and cricket with some decent chaps,---i was  merely highlighting my own local experiences,as were the other guys-- seeing as -as this thread was about Coventry city,
  i did say" ALL football clubs"okay maybe i should have gone further and said Coventry included,-my mistake,
    and no i do not support any attack on fellow fans,by anyone, i would call that miscreant a "nut-bucket" also,and indeed would have asked him what the hell he thought he was doing!
 By unity (perhaps the wrong word,under-current would have been  better) what i meant, was i didnt expect so much flack from fellow Villa fans,just for relaying a personal true experience.
 
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Ads on March 26, 2011, 11:26:00 AM
Why don't they just merge with SHA. They're more or less one in the same anyway.

Tin pot outfits, with one pot between them, whose raison d'être is to hate The Villa.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 11:26:41 AM
We aint talking about all opposition fans here only Coventry City fans!all clubs have decent supporters, and most have some right nut- buckets,
   Sorry but eastie,bigad 82 and myself have all experienced  abuse at the hands of their fans at first hand--and i find it real alarming  and quite disappointing to find that some of our fellow Villans seem to be taking us to task ,and actually defending  the Coventry fans? wait till its your car window with a brick through, or your shirt spat, on or you get a smack becoz you dared to  show your luv for the Villa on display by means of a tattoo on display in Coventry---!!see if you are still standing their corner then!!!!!

  un f*****g believable,!!!! unity or what???
I see a slight contradiction there.....So all clubs except Coventry have good fans?
Sorry but my wife's family are from Coventry, most of them support Coventry and are a great family. Her uncle is one of the nicest people (when he's not throwing bricks through car windows  ;) ) to walk the planet.

Unity? So would you defend the Villa fan I saw against Arsenal in a cup match just launching into a middle aged fella unprovoked?
   i too know and have known some decent Coventry fans indeed my late uncle was a season ticket holder at Highfield Rd ,and he was a smashing man.and ive worked and played football and cricket with some decent chaps,---i was  merely highlighting my own local experiences,as were the other guys-- seeing as -as this thread was about Coventry city,
  i did say" ALL football clubs"okay maybe i should have gone further and said Coventry included,
    and no i do not support any attack on fellow fans,by anyone, i would call that miscreant a "nut-bucket" also,and indeed would have asked him what the hell he thought he was doing!
 By unity (perhaps the wrong word,under-current would have been  better) what i meant, was i didnt expect so much flack from fellow Villa fans,just for relaying a personal true experience.
 

i must admit i was shocked last night by some things said that seemed to question integrity and exaggeration,but its gone now although my estimation of certain people has changed.I may well have differing views and opinions to some but i am a very honest and sincere person who would not exaggerate  for dramatic effect.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: PeterWithe on March 26, 2011, 11:29:07 AM
Don't Cov have a little rivalry with Leicester?

Would anyone notice if they went out of business?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: vilan461 on March 26, 2011, 11:29:48 AM
We aint talking about all opposition fans here only Coventry City fans!all clubs have decent supporters, and most have some right nut- buckets,
   Sorry but eastie,bigad 82 and myself have all experienced  abuse at the hands of their fans at first hand--and i find it real alarming  and quite disappointing to find that some of our fellow Villans seem to be taking us to task ,and actually defending  the Coventry fans? wait till its your car window with a brick through, or your shirt spat, on or you get a smack becoz you dared to  show your luv for the Villa on display by means of a tattoo on display in Coventry---!!see if you are still standing their corner then!!!!!

  un f*****g believable,!!!! unity or what???
I see a slight contradiction there.....So all clubs except Coventry have good fans?
Sorry but my wife's family are from Coventry, most of them support Coventry and are a great family. Her uncle is one of the nicest people (when he's not throwing bricks through car windows  ;) ) to walk the planet.

Unity? So would you defend the Villa fan I saw against Arsenal in a cup match just launching into a middle aged fella unprovoked?
   i too know and have known some decent Coventry fans indeed my late uncle was a season ticket holder at Highfield Rd ,and he was a smashing man.and ive worked and played football and cricket with some decent chaps,---i was  merely highlighting my own local experiences,as were the other guys-- seeing as -as this thread was about Coventry city,
  i did say" ALL football clubs"okay maybe i should have gone further and said Coventry included,
    and no i do not support any attack on fellow fans,by anyone, i would call that miscreant a "nut-bucket" also,and indeed would have asked him what the hell he thought he was doing!
 By unity (perhaps the wrong word,under-current would have been  better) what i meant, was i didnt expect so much flack from fellow Villa fans,just for relaying a personal true experience.
 

i must admit i was shocked last night by some things said that seemed to question integrity and exaggeration,but its gone now although my estimation of certain people has changed.I may well have differing views and opinions to some but i am a very honest and sincere person who would not exaggerate things for dramatic effect.
  Wel said eastie-----ditto man!!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Chris Smith on March 26, 2011, 11:31:20 AM
I've spent a fair bit of time in Coventry for work and reckon as a city, not just football, they have a bit of a chip on their shoulder about Birmingham. That manifests itself in the anti Villa attitude but it's just a symptom of a wider feeling. We, in turn, have a patronising approach to them, it's an easy place to sneer about when all you see is the city centre which is a pretty dispiriting place.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: SX150 on March 26, 2011, 11:36:01 AM
Don't Cov have a little rivalry with Leicester?

Would anyone notice if they went out of business?
Cov have tried to have a bit of rivalry over the years with varius Midland clubs. Wolves 60's, Albion 70's, Leicester at some point and us during Div 1 / Premiership. Thing is nobody cares a toss about them and took them as a rival. Their anger seems to be saved for the Villa pretty much these days.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: PeterWithe on March 26, 2011, 11:43:34 AM
I haven't been to the new ground for football but even in the 80s they always gave it the 'we hate Villa' bit without the trip being the least bit intimidating.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 11:51:59 AM
They don't seem to hold the same disdain for SHA though do they ?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 26, 2011, 11:53:47 AM
Southampton home was in the October 16,211.
Lowest league crowds at VP that season were 12,304 against Norwich and 12,484 against Wimbledon.
That was in the days when you would count the Wimbledon away following and have a debate with your mates whether they had brought 43 or 44.
Season average was 18,171.

 Sorry andy i was thinking of 85-86
coventry home was 12,198 and southampton home was 8,456 , and both games were dreadful draws.
The crowd at highfield road was 10000, a 3-3 drawand i remember withey in goal i think?

That was a night match a couple of years earlier. 85-86 we were 3-1 down and got back to 3-3.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 26, 2011, 12:00:06 PM
Don't Cov have a little rivalry with Leicester?

Would anyone notice if they went out of business?


yes they hate us both.

strange really as Leicester seem to hate Forest and we hate Blose.   Maybe Cov hate every one , I know with my past experience , they really hate us ...   
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Chris Smith on March 26, 2011, 12:00:51 PM
They don't seem to hold the same disdain for SHA though do they ?

No, even Coventry see the as an irrelevance.

I went to see Weller at the NEC a few months ago. Waiting at International afterwards both platforms were packed and a bunch of fat blokes waiting for the Cov train started singing sotv. Didn't seem to occur to them that we might not all be Villa fans.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 26, 2011, 12:04:47 PM
I worked in Coventry and don't believe they hate us as much as some think. They know, in their heart of hearts, that it is a 'fake' rivalry. Teams feel obliged to have a local rival and they picked us seeing as they were in the top division with us for some many years. Now they've been out of our division for a decade some have moved on to hating Leicester more than us. They know we couldn't give a toss about them. I don't want any club to go bust, Coventry included.

Mind you, I might be partially responsible for their demise. When I worked in Coventry I answered the phones in our office and our phone number was only a number or so different from the Coventry City Ticket Office number. I would regularly get people phoning and saying things like "can I buy two tickets for the Burnley game?". "Sorry mate, sold out" I would reply.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 26, 2011, 12:05:40 PM
well my Leicester mates call me Villa   and my cov mates call me Villa scum.    That sums it up...
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 12:22:50 PM
CD - you think they aren't that bad and hate Leicester now- how totally and completely wrong you are.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 26, 2011, 12:23:42 PM
I didn't say they all hate Leicester more. Some do though.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 12:27:08 PM
There was a huge dust up between cov and Leicester fans in earlsdon a couple of years ago about 5 miles from the ricoh- pub smashed , shops , cars etc and loads of arrests with shoppers caught in the midst- pre arranged apparently 4 hrs before the game.

Point acknowledged cd.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 26, 2011, 12:28:01 PM
'sold out' indeed. If you're going to tell a lie, tell a big one

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Chris Smith on March 26, 2011, 12:34:46 PM
There was a huge dust up between cov and Leicester fan in earlsdon a couple of years ago about 5 miles from the ricoh- pub smashed , shops , cars etc and loads of arrests with shoppers caught in the midst- pre arranged apparently 4 hrs before the game.

Point acknowledged cd.

Outside the City Arms. I know somebody who worked there, said it looked nasty but not much really happened and the police had it under control.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 12:41:03 PM
Yes chris, caught them unawares and was very nasty under police vans arrived on the scene,a friend of my wife was shopping and had to cower behind a car as they fought on the street.
according to reports as many as 100 involved.


http://cv5.coventrytelegraph.net/2008/08/football-hooligans-locked-up-a.html
http://cv5.coventrytelegraph.net/2009/04/how-earlsdon-erupted-in-violen.html
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Des Little on March 26, 2011, 12:58:58 PM
Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.

Ditto.  Apologies to those with more compassion than me, but I just can't abide them one bit.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Bad English on March 26, 2011, 01:28:47 PM
Waiting at International afterwards both platforms were packed and a bunch of fat blokes waiting for the Cov train started singing sotv.
Always good to see the folks of the good old UK are still as chirpy and outgoing as ever.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: SX150 on March 26, 2011, 01:33:11 PM
There was a huge dust up between cov and Leicester fan in earlsdon a couple of years ago about 5 miles from the ricoh- pub smashed , shops , cars etc and loads of arrests with shoppers caught in the midst- pre arranged apparently 4 hrs before the game.

Point acknowledged cd.

Outside the City Arms. I know somebody who worked there, said it looked nasty but not much really happened and the police had it under control.
Very little happened on a football violance scale but scares the life out of people who go quiet shopping in a local shopping street. People who don't want it and are not prepared or expecting it. It was all the usual hoolie dance stuff. I'm sure its only done for effect half the time. Pick a place where it can have maximum impact & publicity it seems.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: joe_c on March 26, 2011, 01:36:11 PM
They don't seem to hold the same disdain for SHA though do they ?

No, even Coventry see the as an irrelevance.

I went to see Weller at the NEC a few months ago. Waiting at International afterwards both platforms were packed and a bunch of fat blokes waiting for the Cov train started singing sotv. Didn't seem to occur to them that we might not all be Villa fans.

Are you sure it wasn't "shit on the Weller" they were singing?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 26, 2011, 01:49:53 PM
There's a lot of hate for Cov fans here which I don't really understand.  The Cov fans I know have been fine, never a bad word about Villa really.  I know some of them probably do hate us but that's to be expected when you see where we are and where they are. Anyway, I was happy for them when they beat Spurs in the 86 cup final....now there's a club I like to see in severe financial bother.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 01:52:48 PM
A friend of mine went to see Jon gaunt at a night function and he said gaunt took the mic and led a chorus of 'shit on the villa' at the Belgrade theatre in Coventry, which he said the crowd loved so much that gaunt carried on conducting the crowd singing it for a few minutes- quite surreal he said to see folk of all ages singing along in a frenzy.
Bren this is nothing new and nothing to do with where we are it was going on over 30 years ago when they were more than on parity with us - take my word on it ,I've lived here that long and seen it, and as all the other posters who live here have said the same thing.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: PeterWithe on March 26, 2011, 01:55:35 PM
A friend of mine went to see Jon gaunt at a night function and he said gaunt took the mic and led a chorus of 'shit on the villa' at the Belgrade theatre in Coventry, which he said the crowd loved so much that gaunt carried on conducting the crowd singing it for a few minutes- quite surreal he said to see folk of all ages singing along in a frenzy.

About as one way a rivalry as when we used to sing about Man Utd every week.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 02:01:44 PM
True peter, you would think their rivalry would be blues which is 20 mins or less away and a similar size club with similar history and ambition.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 26, 2011, 02:03:29 PM
There was a huge dust up between cov and Leicester fan in earlsdon a couple of years ago about 5 miles from the ricoh- pub smashed , shops , cars etc and loads of arrests with shoppers caught in the midst- pre arranged apparently 4 hrs before the game.

Point acknowledged cd.

Outside the City Arms. I know somebody who worked there, said it looked nasty but not much really happened and the police had it under control.
Very little happened on a football violance scale but scares the life out of people who go quiet shopping in a local shopping street. People who don't want it and are not prepared or expecting it. It was all the usual hoolie dance stuff. I'm sure its only done for effect half the time. Pick a place where it can have maximum impact & publicity it seems.

Quite the opposite, really.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 02:09:10 PM
Not sure it was that trivial, on the reports on the previous page around 100 were involved and many arrests resulting in jail,Injuries and a lot of damage to property and cars, the links are on the previous page.

Frightening what can happen when you pop out for a tin of beans .
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: SX150 on March 26, 2011, 02:22:11 PM
There was a huge dust up between cov and Leicester fan in earlsdon a couple of years ago about 5 miles from the ricoh- pub smashed , shops , cars etc and loads of arrests with shoppers caught in the midst- pre arranged apparently 4 hrs before the game.

Point acknowledged cd.

Outside the City Arms. I know somebody who worked there, said it looked nasty but not much really happened and the police had it under control.
Very little happened on a football violance scale but scares the life out of people who go quiet shopping in a local shopping street. People who don't want it and are not prepared or expecting it. It was all the usual hoolie dance stuff. I'm sure its only done for effect half the time. Pick a place where it can have maximum impact & publicity it seems.

Quite the opposite, really.
They could have chosen the War Memorial Park 1/2 a mile up the road. Acres of open space where the only casualties would have been them looking for it. No have in a shopping street full of innocents who end up getting hurt. Shop windows getting broken, cars damaged etc etc.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 26, 2011, 02:27:39 PM
There was a huge dust up between cov and Leicester fan in earlsdon a couple of years ago about 5 miles from the ricoh- pub smashed , shops , cars etc and loads of arrests with shoppers caught in the midst- pre arranged apparently 4 hrs before the game.

Point acknowledged cd.

Outside the City Arms. I know somebody who worked there, said it looked nasty but not much really happened and the police had it under control.
Very little happened on a football violance scale but scares the life out of people who go quiet shopping in a local shopping street. People who don't want it and are not prepared or expecting it. It was all the usual hoolie dance stuff. I'm sure its only done for effect half the time. Pick a place where it can have maximum impact & publicity it seems.

Quite the opposite, really.
They could have chosen the War Memorial Park 1/2 a mile up the road. Acres of open space where the only casualties would have been them looking for it. No have in a shopping street full of innocents who end up getting hurt. Shop windows getting broken, cars damaged etc etc.

Or, for maximum impacy and publicity, at the game.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 26, 2011, 04:02:50 PM
Bunch of puffs.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: SX150 on March 26, 2011, 04:21:28 PM
There was a huge dust up between cov and Leicester fan in earlsdon a couple of years ago about 5 miles from the ricoh- pub smashed , shops , cars etc and loads of arrests with shoppers caught in the midst- pre arranged apparently 4 hrs before the game.

Point acknowledged cd.

Outside the City Arms. I know somebody who worked there, said it looked nasty but not much really happened and the police had it under control.
Very little happened on a football violance scale but scares the life out of people who go quiet shopping in a local shopping street. People who don't want it and are not prepared or expecting it. It was all the usual hoolie dance stuff. I'm sure its only done for effect half the time. Pick a place where it can have maximum impact & publicity it seems.

Quite the opposite, really.
They could have chosen the War Memorial Park 1/2 a mile up the road. Acres of open space where the only casualties would have been them looking for it. No have in a shopping street full of innocents who end up getting hurt. Shop windows getting broken, cars damaged etc etc.

Or, for maximum impacy and publicity, at the game.
Too well policed.
 You know as well as me Percy these Hoolies love the impact these clashes have. That incident in that place was exactly the place for publicity.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 26, 2011, 04:25:46 PM
Funny, I didn't hear about it until today.

Wonder why Villa and West Brom, and Villa/Blues had rows at Spaghetti Junction and Aston Station respectively, hours after the games this season when they could have got more publicity and therefore longer sentences by fighting in the Bull Ring.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: MonsXI on March 26, 2011, 04:29:38 PM
A friend of mine went to see Jon gaunt at a night function and he said gaunt took the mic and led a chorus of 'shit on the villa' at the Belgrade theatre in Coventry, which he said the crowd loved so much that gaunt carried on conducting the crowd singing it for a few minutes- quite surreal he said to see folk of all ages singing along in a frenzy.
Bren this is nothing new and nothing to do with where we are it was going on over 30 years ago when they were more than on parity with us - take my word on it ,I've lived here that long and seen it, and as all the other posters who live here have said the same thing.

happens when the Enemy concerts when they play in Coventry.

as far as the trouble between cov - leics it was pavement dancing at it's finest, no blows traded.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Ads on March 26, 2011, 05:02:59 PM
There was a huge dust up between cov and Leicester fan in earlsdon a couple of years ago about 5 miles from the ricoh- pub smashed , shops , cars etc and loads of arrests with shoppers caught in the midst- pre arranged apparently 4 hrs before the game.

Point acknowledged cd.

Outside the City Arms. I know somebody who worked there, said it looked nasty but not much really happened and the police had it under control.
Very little happened on a football violance scale but scares the life out of people who go quiet shopping in a local shopping street. People who don't want it and are not prepared or expecting it. It was all the usual hoolie dance stuff. I'm sure its only done for effect half the time. Pick a place where it can have maximum impact & publicity it seems.

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: SX150 on March 26, 2011, 05:29:32 PM
Funny, I didn't hear about it until today.

Wonder why Villa and West Brom, and Villa/Blues had rows at Spaghetti Junction and Aston Station respectively, hours after the games this season when they could have got more publicity and therefore longer sentences by fighting in the Bull Ring.
Don't disagree too much there Percy. I did say half the time. Spaghetti isn't likely to attract the same attention as Pensioners, women & children coming under a barrage of bricks & bottles. Some of the hoolies are quite switched on I know Percy. This incident did become quite high profile but not for the fisty cuffs but because of where it was.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 05:33:37 PM
Just watched it- certainly not what you'd expect in a residential area several miles from a football ground, scary if you were in the area at the time I imagine.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: SX150 on March 26, 2011, 05:41:35 PM
Just watched it- certainly not what you'd expect in a residential area several miles from a football ground, scary if you were in the area at the time I imagine.
Very scary particularly for those who innocently got mixed up in it. Not forgetting this venue was organised.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 26, 2011, 07:06:17 PM
While I was defying death and destruction in Warwick-near-Coventry this afternoon I was informed that there will be 15,000 police on duty at Coventry v Millwall this season, with a troop of soldiers on standby at Aldershot. This is because two double decker buses were overturned last season and the city centre was a warzone.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 26, 2011, 07:25:12 PM
Id forgotten this argument was still going on.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: The Man With A Stick on March 26, 2011, 07:42:58 PM
I'm still laughing at the mention of a theatre-load of idiots paying money to listen to Jon Gaunt.

The only way I'd pay to listen to him would be if he was either drowning or on fire (whilst handcuffed to Richard Littlejohn).
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Stu on March 26, 2011, 11:45:29 PM
I too live in Coventry and have to say Eastie has it bang on as do a couple of others on here. If these  people don't know you personally then you have shit on your hands. I get on ok in a few local areas but trouble ain't far away when on nights out in other areas of Coventry. I always gave it them back and also mates would back you up but I'm passed all that crap now and try to turn a deaf ear. In general they are much like the "Dogshitters" not half as interested in themselves as they are "The Villa".

Right. I grew up near Coventry and I know the city very well. I've been in and around Cov with my Villa top on so many times I've lost count. I've had 'what the fuck are you wearing that for?' and 'you scummer', etc, but never, ever have I been threatened with a kicking. Not once. I may have been lucky, but as I say, I've been there on plenty of occasions in Villa colours when something could of happened. Even on Cov match days when it was easy for the crowd to get into the centre from Highfield Road and I've been in one of the city centre pubs.

I grew up with them 'hating' us, but even then I knew that we had bigger fish to fry. They knew/know it too, which makes the rivalry even more harmless. If we're going to provide evidence in the form of anecdote, then mine is as valid as any other.

Oh, and I now live in Earlsdon.
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Post by: Stu on March 27, 2011, 12:06:39 AM
There was a huge dust up between cov and Leicester fan in earlsdon a couple of years ago about 5 miles from the ricoh- pub smashed , shops , cars etc and loads of arrests with shoppers caught in the midst- pre arranged apparently 4 hrs before the game.

Point acknowledged cd.

Outside the City Arms. I know somebody who worked there, said it looked nasty but not much really happened and the police had it under control.
Very little happened on a football violance scale but scares the life out of people who go quiet shopping in a local shopping street. People who don't want it and are not prepared or expecting it. It was all the usual hoolie dance stuff. I'm sure its only done for effect half the time. Pick a place where it can have maximum impact & publicity it seems.

Quite the opposite, really.

Normally, yes. Fuck knows why it happened on Earlsdon High Street though. That is weird. I imagine a few Leicester got lost, or were trying to 'take over' a pub where they knew they'd get very little resistance. Either way, its pretty much the same as Cov rocking up to scrap the Villa and kicking off in Solihull High Street.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave on March 27, 2011, 12:10:33 AM
I too live in Coventry and have to say Eastie has it bang on as do a couple of others on here. If these  people don't know you personally then you have shit on your hands. I get on ok in a few local areas but trouble ain't far away when on nights out in other areas of Coventry. I always gave it them back and also mates would back you up but I'm passed all that crap now and try to turn a deaf ear. In general they are much like the "Dogshitters" not half as interested in themselves as they are "The Villa".

Right. I grew up near Coventry and I know the city very well. I've been in and around Cov with my Villa top on so many times I've lost count. I've had 'what the fuck are you wearing that for?' and 'you scummer', etc, but never, ever have I been threatened with a kicking. Not once. I may have been lucky, but as I say, I've been there on plenty of occasions in Villa colours when something could of happened. Even on Cov match days when it was easy for the crowd to get into the centre from Highfield Road and I've been in one of the city centre pubs.

I grew up with them 'hating' us, but even then I knew that we had bigger fish to fry. They knew/know it too, which makes the rivalry even more harmless. If we're going to provide evidence in the form of anecdote, then mine is as valid as any other.

Oh, and I now live in Earlsdon.
My Coventry experiences echo Stu's.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 27, 2011, 12:23:35 AM
I'm still laughing at the mention of a theatre-load of idiots paying money to listen to Jon Gaunt.

The only way I'd pay to listen to him would be if he was either drowning or on fire (whilst handcuffed to Richard Littlejohn).

Absolutely this.
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Post by: JD on March 27, 2011, 05:27:14 AM
Just watched it- certainly not what you'd expect in a residential area several miles from a football ground, scary if you were in the area at the time I imagine.
Very scary particularly for those who innocently got mixed up in it. Not forgetting this venue was organised.

Scary for those innocent who were caught up in it but funny watching the video. It was like watching a game of tag, one mob running one way, then the next, then turning around again (maybe it was a game of kiss chase).
   
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Post by: nadz3488 on March 27, 2011, 06:09:01 AM
Does this mean we can get Westwood?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 27, 2011, 08:52:44 AM
While I was defying death and destruction in Warwick-near-Coventry this afternoon I was informed that there will be 15,000 police on duty at Coventry v Millwall this season, with a troop of soldiers on standby at Aldershot. This is because two double decker buses were overturned last season and the city centre was a warzone.
We have now been informed that its safe to leave our Anderson shelter. My Villa shirt however has been subject to a controlled explosion.
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Post by: villa1 on March 27, 2011, 09:28:22 AM
Just watched it- certainly not what you'd expect in a residential area several miles from a football ground, scary if you were in the area at the time I imagine.
Very scary particularly for those who innocently got mixed up in it. Not forgetting this venue was organised.

Scary for those innocent who were caught up in it but funny watching the video. It was like watching a game of tag, one mob running one way, then the next, then turning around again (maybe it was a game of kiss chase).
   

That's what I thought. How many punches were actually thrown? Just lots of back and forth. Bit like Rocky Road, or whatever it was, only there was less running away and more standing and shouting nasty things at each other.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 27, 2011, 09:59:18 AM
Just watched it- certainly not what you'd expect in a residential area several miles from a football ground, scary if you were in the area at the time I imagine.
There appeared to be limited fighting, mostly posturing and handbags at 5 yards which is often the case in these situations
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Post by: eastie on March 27, 2011, 12:55:11 PM
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Post by: Stu on March 27, 2011, 01:00:32 PM
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Didn't fancy getting the round in then, ya tight git?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 27, 2011, 01:01:35 PM
I'll buy the first rounds stu!We Can meet up with a couple of other villa fans and have a chat., maybe burnt post or city arms!
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Post by: The Villan On The Wirral on March 27, 2011, 03:27:31 PM
Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.

I`m with you mate.I grew up in Bedworth,just outside Coventry.The day we relegated them pricks was one of my best days as a villa fan.the sooner they go to the wall the better as far as i`m concerned.As other people have said on this thread,until you`ve lived there you won`t really understand their hatred for us.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: olaftab on March 27, 2011, 03:43:27 PM
I'll buy the first rounds stu!We Can meet up with a couple of other villa fans and have a chat., maybe burnt post or city arms!

Let me know when that is and I will be there.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: olaftab on March 27, 2011, 03:56:53 PM
It is a shame if another proper Football Clubs bites the dust however I agree with eastie here on how venomous they are towards us.
I have worked in Coventry for over 20 years. They have a massive inferiority complex about both the City of Birmingham and Aston Villa. Some of it comes from the fact that for along while they were the only local team in the First Division/PL other than us.  Other is about their City. It is a shit hole. They only have one pub they must go to on Friday night ,  the Holyhead, and even that is  full of inbreds. (They are all cousins in  there) Whenever we played all my Cov supporting colleagues were hypo however I and most of Villa fans couldn't care less about them. They are bothered , as they should be, being a lesser club we are not.
Yes they hate  us but we hate Manu and Spurs and Mancity and Chelsea and  and and. This is what foot fans do nothing more nothing less.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 27, 2011, 04:08:10 PM
It is a shame if another proper Football Clubs bites the dust however I agree with eastie here on how venomous they are towards us.
I have worked in Coventry for over 20 years. They have a massive inferiority complex about both the City of Birmingham and Aston Villa. Some of it comes from the fact that for along while they were the only local team in the First Division/PL other than us.  Other is about their City. It is a shit hole. They only have one pub they must go to on Friday night ,  the Holyhead, and even that is  full of inbreds. (They are all cousins in  there) Whenever we played all my Cov supporting colleagues were hypo however I and most of Villa fans couldn't care less about them. They are bothered , as they should be, being a lesser club we are not.
Yes they hate  us but we hate Manu and Spurs and Mancity and Chelsea and  and and. This is what foot fans do nothing more nothing less.
To be fair some of old Coventry that is left after the local council pulled down most of it is very nice.
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Post by: olaftab on March 27, 2011, 04:18:29 PM
Spon Street and may be area around Memorial park? Can't think of anywhere else.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 27, 2011, 04:35:09 PM
Spon Street and may be area around Memorial park? Can't think of anywhere else.
If you look hard enough there are still a couple of timber framed buildings in the City Centre.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 27, 2011, 05:13:38 PM
Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.

I`m with you mate.I grew up in Bedworth,just outside Coventry.The day we relegated them pricks was one of my best days as a villa fan.the sooner they go to the wall the better as far as i`m concerned.As other people have said on this thread,until you`ve lived there you won`t really understand their hatred for us.

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It is a shame if another proper Football Clubs bites the dust however I agree with eastie here on how venomous they are towards us.
I have worked in Coventry for over 20 years. They have a massive inferiority complex about both the City of Birmingham and Aston Villa. Some of it comes from the fact that for along while they were the only local team in the First Division/PL other than us.  Other is about their City. It is a shit hole. They only have one pub they must go to on Friday night ,  the Holyhead, and even that is  full of inbreds. (They are all cousins in  there) Whenever we played all my Cov supporting colleagues were hypo however I and most of Villa fans couldn't care less about them. They are bothered , as they should be, being a lesser club we are not.
Yes they hate  us but we hate Manu and Spurs and Mancity and Chelsea and  and and. This is what foot fans do nothing more nothing less.

i know that mate , you are of course correct, but who are we to know , we just live here - some people who dont live here or work here however know everything , (or so they think )!
 
Silly of those of us living and working here 30 yrs or more to think we might know more what goes on in our city than those who may have visited a handful of times really.
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Post by: SX150 on March 27, 2011, 05:39:18 PM
I always add a bit of spice to it reminding them I was born in Lozells and proud to be a Brummie ;D
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Steve67 on March 27, 2011, 05:43:36 PM
Coventry is a shit hole.  Ray Ranson is a blue nose who chanced his arm in trying to buy the Villa.  On the brink?  Can I volunteer to give them a push please?  Useless scum, serves them right for buying a stadium when they didn't need one.  Always get the team right on the pitch first. I wouldn't shed any tears for them.  In fact, I might just offer their goalkeeper a contract at Villa.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 27, 2011, 05:50:08 PM
Coventry is a shit hole.  Ray Ranson is a blue nose who chanced his arm in trying to buy the Villa.  On the brink?  Can I volunteer to give them a push please?  Useless scum, serves them right for buying a stadium when they didn't need one.  Always get the team right on the pitch first. I wouldn't shed any tears for them.  In fact, I might just offer their goalkeeper a contract at Villa.

buying a stadium , what are you talking about? they do not have a ground of their own and only rent the ricoh arena , that is the reson for their problems in many ways as they have no real assets.

ranson is not a blue nose but a man city fan, and he did not buy coventry city , he was the figurehead os the sisu group who bought the club.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Steve67 on March 27, 2011, 06:01:36 PM
Eastie, who else plays at the Ricoh?  Norwich City? Massey Ferguson?  No, Coventry play there.  Yes they might rent it but that's because of taxation fiddles.  What did the do with Highfield Road?  Is that now another street for the sex workers to wander down?  Shit hole.

Ranson is an ex-Birmingham player.  Enough said.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 27, 2011, 06:06:44 PM
Eastie, who else plays at the Ricoh?  Norwich City? Massey Ferguson?  No, Coventry play there.  Yes they might rent it but that's because of taxation fiddles.  What did the do with Highfield Road?  Is that now another street for the sex workers to wander down?  Shit hole.

Ranson is an ex-Birmingham player.  Enough said.

Let's not make libellous accusations.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 27, 2011, 06:18:16 PM
Eastie, who else plays at the Ricoh?  Norwich City? Massey Ferguson?  No, Coventry play there.  Yes they might rent it but that's because of taxation fiddles.  What did the do with Highfield Road?  Is that now another street for the sex workers to wander down?  Shit hole.

Ranson is an ex-Birmingham player.  Enough said.

Let's not make libellous accusations.

Quite extraordinary.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 27, 2011, 06:21:25 PM
Eastie, who else plays at the Ricoh?  Norwich City? Massey Ferguson?  No, Coventry play there.  Yes they might rent it but that's because of taxation fiddles.  What did the do with Highfield Road?  Is that now another street for the sex workers to wander down?  Shit hole.

Ranson is an ex-Birmingham player.  Enough said.

Let's not make libellous accusations.

Quite extraordinary.

Please do tell us what you mean by that.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: SX150 on March 27, 2011, 06:25:22 PM
Eastie, who else plays at the Ricoh?  Norwich City? Massey Ferguson?  No, Coventry play there.  Yes they might rent it but that's because of taxation fiddles.  What did the do with Highfield Road?  Is that now another street for the sex workers to wander down?  Shit hole.

Ranson is an ex-Birmingham player.  Enough said.
I think they got a full house when Bon Jovi & Oasis played there. Ground is council owned I believe and an ex- chairman buggered off with the proceeds of the Highfield Road sale.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: vilan461 on March 27, 2011, 06:26:01 PM
Fuck 'em.
They hate us with a passion.

And please don't give me any more of this H & V 'we're all fans together' idealistic bullshit.

I`m with you mate.I grew up in Bedworth,just outside Coventry.The day we relegated them pricks was one of my best days as a villa fan.the sooner they go to the wall the better as far as i`m concerned.As other people have said on this thread,until you`ve lived there you won`t really understand their hatred for us.
    , Man a fellow kid from "Beduth" when did you leave good ol "Beduth"?  you would not recognise the ol town now--ive lived in Exhall all my life--what ale houses do you remember-? P.M. might be best means to reply.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: vilan461 on March 27, 2011, 06:43:44 PM
I'll buy the first rounds stu!We Can meet up with a couple of other villa fans and have a chat., maybe burnt post or city arms!
           Grand idea   eastie --i have sent you a P.M.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 27, 2011, 06:50:22 PM
Eastie, who else plays at the Ricoh?  Norwich City? Massey Ferguson?  No, Coventry play there.  Yes they might rent it but that's because of taxation fiddles.  What did the do with Highfield Road?  Is that now another street for the sex workers to wander down?  Shit hole.

Ranson is an ex-Birmingham player.  Enough said.

Let's not make libellous accusations.

Quite extraordinary.

Please do tell us what you mean by that.

i was referring to his comments about tax evasion etc dave , not your correct reply.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 27, 2011, 07:01:44 PM
Eastie, who else plays at the Ricoh?  Norwich City? Massey Ferguson?  No, Coventry play there.  Yes they might rent it but that's because of taxation fiddles.  What did the do with Highfield Road?  Is that now another street for the sex workers to wander down?  Shit hole.

Ranson is an ex-Birmingham player.  Enough said.

Let's not make libellous accusations.

Quite extraordinary.

Please do tell us what you mean by that.

i was referring to his comments about tax evasion etc dave , not your correct reply.

Ah. It was a bit daft. In fact, the one thing that strikes me about the Ricoh is how comparatively minor Coventry's role in the place seems to be. The main entrance is to a casino and their reception area is through a sidedoor at the back. 
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 27, 2011, 07:05:09 PM
Eastie, who else plays at the Ricoh?  Norwich City? Massey Ferguson?  No, Coventry play there.  Yes they might rent it but that's because of taxation fiddles.  What did the do with Highfield Road?  Is that now another street for the sex workers to wander down?  Shit hole.

Ranson is an ex-Birmingham player.  Enough said.

Let's not make libellous accusations.

Quite extraordinary.

Please do tell us what you mean by that.

i was referring to his comments about tax evasion etc dave , not your correct reply.

Ah. It was a bit daft. In fact, the one thing that strikes me about the Ricoh is how comparatively minor Coventry's role in the place seems to be. The main entrance is to a casino and their reception area is through a sidedoor at the back. 

Someone told me they pay £600,000 a year rent to use it , not sure how true it is ,but without their own ground it is hard to find a buyer.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 27, 2011, 07:53:36 PM
As a former Silhillian now Coventrian who has drank in Birmingham for over 30 years, I find a lot of the thread quite amazing and amusing. There are some rough holes in Cov but it is no worse and no better than Solihull or Birmingham.
As for the fans in Cov, I have had plenty of banter with them and am yet to be attacked as I was when I lived in Knowle.
To put the record straight, the trouble before the Leicester game was initiated by the Baby Squad and was not an organised meet.
I think the people calling for the death of a football club should grow a pair and thank McGrath that we are not in the same position. But for Mr Ellis , we could be.



I love a dramatic ending.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 27, 2011, 08:02:01 PM
The problem with Coventry is that, for all the stirring emotion errr emotionalness or whatever the word is of the Cathedral, and the fact that the new cathedral is such an impressive building, such a a vast swathe of the city centre is a terrible, terrible 1960s concrete dump, and it is that which people take most notice of. I live pretty nearby and never go there unless i have to, because, frankly, why would I? Birmingham and Solihull are both inifinitely better for shopping, and there's no reason whatsoever to go out in the evening in Cov.

Having said that, if you've no need of the city centre, then the city does have some quite nice suburbs, and in that sense, it isn't such a bad place at all. It is just the eyesore in the middle that ruins it.

Going to Highfield Road in the 80s and 90s used to be a bit of an experience, and I understand that they don't really like us very much, but I genuinely don't have an opinion on them. Partly because I never actually see any, and I live in an area which should be one of their heartlands.

Oh, and referring back a page or two, I too am just amazed that a theatre full of people were prepared to pay to hear Jon Gaunt talk. What a cock end that man is.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: peter w on March 27, 2011, 08:57:29 PM
So are we in agreement that they see us as their hated rivals or not? If it is still yes then I'll enjoy their local derbies against Coventry Sporting, or Sphinx, or whoever.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: DB on March 27, 2011, 09:07:26 PM
The problem with Coventry is that, for all the stirring emotion errr emotionalness or whatever the word is of the Cathedral, and the fact that the new cathedral is such an impressive building, such a a vast swathe of the city centre is a terrible, terrible 1960s concrete dump, and it is that which people take most notice of. I live pretty nearby and never go there unless i have to, because, frankly, why would I? Birmingham and Solihull are both inifinitely better for shopping, and there's no reason whatsoever to go out in the evening in Cov.

Having said that, if you've no need of the city centre, then the city does have some quite nice suburbs, and in that sense, it isn't such a bad place at all. It is just the eyesore in the middle that ruins it.

Going to Highfield Road in the 80s and 90s used to be a bit of an experience, and I understand that they don't really like us very much, but I genuinely don't have an opinion on them. Partly because I never actually see any, and I live in an area which should be one of their heartlands.

Oh, and referring back a page or two, I too am just amazed that a theatre full of people were prepared to pay to hear Jon Gaunt talk. What a cock end that man is.


Outside the midlands area I don't think either Cov or Brum stirs up the image of beautiful places. Both fell victim of the 'forward thinking' city centre developers after the war. Brum over past 15 or so years is sorting it out, not sure about Cov. It's a shame as before the Luftwaffe did their thing, Coventry had a lovely centre - I watched a programme on the blitz and what it used to look like. As someone else mentioned, why didn't they take same appraoch they did in Germany cities - Hamburg, for example looks fantastic. Sorry, not that football related...
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: aev on March 27, 2011, 09:34:01 PM
I went to school in Coventry and never had an ounce of bother for being a Villa fan, although there was plenty of other aggro about as the place is as rough as you like (and I have lived in Eltham).

In fact, most of my mates supported teams other than Coventry, which is probably not that surprising as they have been shite for their entire existence.

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Bad English on March 27, 2011, 09:42:23 PM
I quite enjoy gratuitously referring to them as the Felchers. I hope we can continue to do that.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: peter w on March 27, 2011, 09:44:05 PM
I went to school in Coventry and never had an ounce of bother for being a Villa fan, although there was plenty of other aggro about as the place is as rough as you like (and I have lived in Eltham).

In fact, most of my mates supported teams other than Coventry, which is probably not that surprising as they have been shite for their entire existence.



Who? Your mates?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 27, 2011, 09:50:40 PM
I went to school in Coventry and never had an ounce of bother for being a Villa fan, although there was plenty of other aggro about as the place is as rough as you like (and I have lived in Eltham).

In fact, most of my mates supported teams other than Coventry, which is probably not that surprising as they have been shite for their entire existence.

Tad harsh bearing in mind the FA Cup win
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 27, 2011, 10:02:27 PM
It's a shame as before the Luftwaffe did their thing, Coventry had a lovely centre - I watched a programme on the blitz and what it used to look like. As someone else mentioned, why didn't they take same appraoch they did in Germany cities - Hamburg, for example looks fantastic. Sorry, not that football related...

That's a bit of a myth. The Luftwaffe bombed a fair bit of the city but much more damage was done by the council before and after the war.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Steve67 on March 27, 2011, 10:29:44 PM
I apologise for my earlier comments.  My Mummy has had a sharp word with me.  Mr Ranson is a nice chap and Coventry is a hard working town with good people.  I hope they don't go out of business.  I worker there for six months, right by the Highfield ground, hence the sex worker reference, I understand that it's been cleaned up now.

Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: charlie on March 27, 2011, 10:42:18 PM
Mum watched the Cov blitz from our farm and said it was the most scary night of the war, used to go to highfield rd on away weeks and watch curtis and co, good fun if basic. Hill made them pretentious, Ricoh made them stupidly overspent, sad but if you appoint Ranson then scum is a term for sky blue. Bluenose manshittie tw##t. No doubt tho, cov suffered badly in the war and rebuilt badly.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: The Left Side on March 28, 2011, 03:16:35 AM
So how far away are they from hitting the wall, days, weeks or months?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 28, 2011, 08:55:16 AM
So how far away are they from hitting the wall, days, weeks or months?

statement due today but they owe a lot of bills and are losing money fast , ranson has resigned and its hard to find a buyer with no real assets and big debts-not owning their ground makes it very difficult to attract money.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 28, 2011, 08:58:55 AM
Aren't they losing about 80k per week
Can't see many wanting to get involved in that !
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 28, 2011, 09:00:06 AM
yes and have been for a long time , and one win in 18 games puts them in relegation trouble too.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: DB on March 28, 2011, 09:07:49 AM
It's a shame as before the Luftwaffe did their thing, Coventry had a lovely centre - I watched a programme on the blitz and what it used to look like. As someone else mentioned, why didn't they take same appraoch they did in Germany cities - Hamburg, for example looks fantastic. Sorry, not that football related...

That's a bit of a myth. The Luftwaffe bombed a fair bit of the city but much more damage was done by the council before and after the war.


Look at the before and after pictures - devastated. You're right the city planners certainly played their part.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 28, 2011, 09:10:06 AM
How come the ricoh got the olympics gig yet villa park didn't ?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 28, 2011, 09:20:34 AM
How come the ricoh got the olympics gig yet villa park didn't ?

We withdrew.

Houlliers fault.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 28, 2011, 09:45:11 AM
What's worst about the Cov situation is the secrecy. The supporters aren't allowed to know what's going on - they're just supposed to turn up and hand their money over. But then when things get *really* bad the club will turn to the supporters to beg for help. As night follows day.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: eastie on March 28, 2011, 09:59:20 AM
How come the ricoh got the olympics gig yet villa park didn't ?

i think we pulled out because of proposed ground redevolopments wiki, not sure if they are still happening though.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 28, 2011, 10:01:02 AM
We've been talking about filling the corners in for the last few decades
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 28, 2011, 10:40:00 AM
We've been talking about filling the corners in for the last few decades
I'm like that about the grouting in my bathroom.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 28, 2011, 10:46:16 AM
We've been talking about filling the corners in for the last few decades
I'm like that about the grouting in my bathroom.
Tiles and grout
Spreader and the glue
Get it all at Stechford Tile
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 28, 2011, 11:29:17 AM
We've been talking about filling the corners in for the last few decades
I'm like that about the grouting in my bathroom.
Tiles and grout
Spreader and the glue
Get it all at Stechford Tile

Big ones, small ones, patterned or plain
If you call in once, you'll have to call again
We're your one stop shop, we've got the lot
Get it aaaaallllll at Stetchford Tiles.

*internal jukebox turmoil*
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 28, 2011, 11:41:40 AM
Is ST still a going concern ?
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 28, 2011, 12:04:41 PM
Is ST still a going concern ?

Oh yes (http://www.stechfordtile.com/)
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Breezeblock on March 28, 2011, 12:16:16 PM
We've been talking about filling the corners in for the last few decades
I'm like that about the grouting in my bathroom.
Tiles and grout
Spreader and the glue
Get it all at Stechford Tile

Oh great. Now i've got the "Talking Pages" jingle in my head. You remember? "Here is the new talking pages jingle as sung by Sinatra: Oh-two-onnnnne, seven-double-one, double-one-double-seven!   Thank you, Rodney Sinatra of Dulwich!"
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 28, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
Is ST still a going concern ?

Oh yes (http://www.stechfordtile.com/)

UK showroom Stechford lol
Didn't realise they were global
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 28, 2011, 03:45:45 PM
Oh great. Now i've got the "Talking Pages" jingle in my head. You remember? "Here is the new talking pages jingle as sung by Sinatra: Oh-two-onnnnne, seven-double-one, double-one-double-seven!   Thank you, Rodney Sinatra of Dulwich!"

Don't blame me. As far as I'm concerned Stechford Tiles is just rhyming slang
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 28, 2011, 03:51:58 PM
Statement (http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2011/03/28/ken-dulieu-confirmed-as-new-coventry-city-chairman-92746-28416704/#sitelife-commentsWidget-bottom)

Looks like George Hamilton IV is the new chairman.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: damon loves JT on March 28, 2011, 04:01:39 PM
Statement (http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2011/03/28/ken-dulieu-confirmed-as-new-coventry-city-chairman-92746-28416704/#sitelife-commentsWidget-bottom)

Looks like George Hamilton IV is the new chairman.

I think he looks more like Ken Masters from `Howard's Way'. Coventry fans will be ever so relieved.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dr Butler on March 28, 2011, 04:07:38 PM
My Grandfather was a fireman in Coventry during the Blitz, the mention of it always brought tears to his eyes.

not bothered about the football team/club, as here in Cambridge I was attacked by the jovial scumbags when they played Cambs United in the early 80's and spat on as I watched Garry Thompson score at Highfield road.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 28, 2011, 06:53:09 PM
I had the delights of college in Coventry. I would love to play nice but a shithole filled with shitheads will be my abiding memory.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: WikiVilla on March 28, 2011, 06:54:41 PM
I had the delights of college in Coventry. I would love to play nice but a shithole filled with shitheads will be my abiding memory.

Stop sitting on the fence Clion
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 29, 2011, 08:43:50 AM
I had the delights of college in Coventry. I would love to play nice but a shithole filled with shitheads will be my abiding memory.
Says the man from Stourbridge...
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 29, 2011, 08:46:29 AM
Pedmore, darling....
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 29, 2011, 08:51:11 AM
Pedmore, darling....
That's what I said; Stourbridge.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: john e on March 29, 2011, 12:34:23 PM
i lived in Coventry for a few years,
 first time i ever went to highfield road was somewhere around 78/79, stood behind the goals in the away enclosure, saw Andy Gray score a cracking diving header, we won.

lovely walk home across the park,   not
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Newquay_AVFC on March 29, 2011, 12:45:29 PM
Can't stand the football club, however always loved the away trips despite one of their lot spitting in my face. The banter at Highfield Road was ace. One of my favourite ever goals was when Stan Staunton won it in the 83rd min. As i say hate the club but would like to see them ok. Don't look good though.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: robbo1874 on March 30, 2011, 04:27:52 AM
I won't be shedding any tears for them - hate the jealous in-breds more than Blues
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: willywombat on March 30, 2011, 08:15:44 AM
I couldn't honestly give a toss about them. I've always found their pathological hatred of us amusing. Felchers
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Dave P on March 30, 2011, 09:50:17 PM
 They are safe for now (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/12910064.stm)
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Chipsticks on March 30, 2011, 10:14:33 PM
I think it's scary as this could quite realistically be us in a few years if we don't sort ourselves out.
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: The Left Side on March 30, 2011, 11:13:15 PM
We own our ground though and we have a great owner, they do not!
Title: Re: 0% villa -Coventry city on the brink?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 31, 2011, 08:01:06 AM
They may not have enough funds to last till the end of the season.

Some fool will take them on, probably after administration.
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