Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier

[eastie]

All smells very "clough at leeds" to me. Another man who probably alienated people unneccesarily but had a major player power problem. I just hope it doesn't follow the same course, as it didn't end very well for any of them

Didnt jimmy armfield come in after clough was sacked and take leeds to the european cup final that season?

He did, but it was downhill from then on. See also Ron Saunders at Manchester City at the same time.

i think graham turner had similar problems but not quite so bad , in that he tried to change too much at once and broke up a decent team far too quickly , offloading many of the big established names.

[dave.woodhall]

i think graham turner had similar problems but not quite so bad , in that he tried to change too much at once and broke up a decent team far too quickly , offloading many of the big established names.

Indeed, although he had help from Doug on that one.

[Greg N'Ash]

they reverted to type but the senior players who started the revolt were mostly over the hill. fact remains they were pretty much finished as a major force and were relegated by the 80's

[eastie]

There were rumblings before he arrived that warnock, friedal and Carew had all had problems at previous clubs with him, so I imagine geds card was marked before he even got through the door.

[kippaxvilla2]

fans unhappy with manager because of crap results shocker.........as that article hints, i reckon a few anti-GH will be surprised at just how rotten some of our bad apples in the squad are when it finally comes out in the wash

spot on, greg. And if those apples are as bad as I suspect, a lot of chickens will be coming home to roost.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater or lock the stable door after the horse has bolted, otherwise we'll end up with egg on our faces.

At the end of the day it's results that count and unless we're all singing from the same hymn sheet it will all end in tears.

Spot on.  End of.  Let's hope we are reading from the same page.  If we are we should be cooking on gas.  We need to get back to the bread and butter of winning league games.  The wall needs to do its job. 

[Lee]

I despair sometimes  ..  I really do.

Are Vital (sic) sponsoring this?
 

[Concrete John]

fans unhappy with manager because of crap results shocker.........as that article hints, i reckon a few anti-GH will be surprised at just how rotten some of our bad apples in the squad are when it finally comes out in the wash

spot on, greg. And if those apples are as bad as I suspect, a lot of chickens will be coming home to roost.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater or lock the stable door after the horse has bolted, otherwise we'll end up with egg on our faces.

At the end of the day it's results that count and unless we're all singing from the same hymn sheet it will all end in tears.

Spot on.  End of.  Let's hope we are reading from the same page.  If we are we should be cooking on gas.  We need to get back to the bread and butter of winning league games.  The wall needs to do its job. 

This.

[sid1964]

When Gordon Cowans says that he could not believe the attitude of the players at our club then you realise how bad the problems are!!

[Mister E]

fans unhappy with manager because of crap results shocker.........as that article hints, i reckon a few anti-GH will be surprised at just how rotten some of our bad apples in the squad are when it finally comes out in the wash

spot on, greg. And if those apples are as bad as I suspect, a lot of chickens will be coming home to roost.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater or lock the stable door after the horse has bolted, otherwise we'll end up with egg on our faces.

Thing is: you've got to break a few eggs to make an omelette.

[damon loves JT]

As Greg points out, the tail is trying to wag the dog here. The tail needs to understand that it's the dog that does the wagging, with the verb 'to wag' here in its transitive sense, and any wagging which the tail may make is merely in the intransitive sense, ie it wags at the behest of its owner, in other words the dog.

[Pete3206]

fans unhappy with manager because of crap results shocker.........as that article hints, i reckon a few anti-GH will be surprised at just how rotten some of our bad apples in the squad are when it finally comes out in the wash

spot on, greg. And if those apples are as bad as I suspect, a lot of chickens will be coming home to roost.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater or lock the stable door after the horse has bolted, otherwise we'll end up with egg on our faces.

At the end of the day it's results that count and unless we're all singing from the same hymn sheet it will all end in tears.

Spot on.  End of.  Let's hope we are reading from the same page.  If we are we should be cooking on gas.  We need to get back to the bread and butter of winning league games.  The wall needs to do its job. 

I Houllier needs to pick off the low hanging fruit in the summer. I'm sure he and his coaching staff will then have an ideas shower to find the best solution for the club going forward.

[Dr Butler]

As Greg points out, the tail is trying to wag the dog here. The tail needs to understand that it's the dog that does the wagging, with the verb 'to wag' here in its transitive sense, and any wagging which the tail may make is merely in the intransitive sense, ie it wags at the behest of its owner, in other words the dog.

oh Damon, what a wag you are...

[dave.woodhall]

Money makes the world go around.

[Simon Ward]

When Gordon Cowans says that he could not believe the attitude of the players at our club then you realise how bad the problems are!!

Indeed. But where did you see this assertion?

[Clampy]

I see our temporary freindship with Mr Nursey andf his newspaper did'nt last long.

I don't think Ged should be here either, but protesting is not going to do more harm than good.