Sack the Manager?

[SheffieldVillain]

Yes, the pain and suffering that having to put your mobile phone in your locker while at work would cause must be immense. I'd slap a transfer request in straightaway personally.

Playing him out of position ( when he plays) must be hacking him off massively.

Then he gets to Training and is ordered to put his mobile phone in his locker, and woe betide him if he doesn't.

[Greg N'Ash]

yep. You've gotta hope this is more media shit-stirring because if its true then god help us.

[Concrete John]

well if gabby is driven away by the simple rules of not using your mobile in the dressing room, and not contacting the chairman personally and undermining the manager then i'd say he doesn't particulary idolise the club. I mean its hardly a reign of terror is it?

I'd say it's a symptom rather than the cause.

[TimTheVillain]

Yes, the pain and suffering that having to put your mobile phone in your locker while at work would cause must be immense. I'd slap a transfer request in straightaway personally.

Playing him out of position ( when he plays) must be hacking him off massively.

Then he gets to Training and is ordered to put his mobile phone in his locker, and woe betide him if he doesn't.

Come on Sheffield, it's a time for motivating, cheering up, creating a sense of unity and togetherness.

Not this.

If the Manager was respected it wouldn't be an issue by the way.

[SheffieldVillain]

It's a time for players paid huge sums of money to forget about their mobile phones, pink car wheels and jewellery (and in Dunne's case pies and pints) and earn their sodding money. I couldn't care less whether they like, love or hate Houllier.

And it would be an issue if the manager was respected. Dunne turned up for the start of the season overweight - for O'Neill and Kevin Mac not for Houllier. Warnock has been crap for the best part of a year. Luke Young (for reasons unknown) got himself into a position where the previous manager wouldn't play him. Ditto Habib Beye. Carew was out at a lap-dancing club the night before a big game. Ireland has been, and continues to be an unprofessional cock throughout his career. Reo-Coker was in a well-publicised training ground argument with MoN.

Don't pretend that these players were all good as gold, superb professionals until Houllier got here. They weren't. They aren't behaving like unprofessional cocks because they don't respect Houllier. They are behaving like unprofessional cocks because they are unprofessional cocks.

So they don't like Houllier. Well in that case, play and try for the club, for the fans. For themselves, to prove that they still can. For their families to respect them. For other clubs to sign and give them yet more money in the summer. There are five pieces of motivation right there.

Yes Houillier has made mistakes. I'm not certain he's the right man for the job. But treating them like poor, hard-done to little schoolboys - no. No more. There comes a point where they need to motivate themselves. And this is it.

Yes, the pain and suffering that having to put your mobile phone in your locker while at work would cause must be immense. I'd slap a transfer request in straightaway personally.

Playing him out of position ( when he plays) must be hacking him off massively.

Then he gets to Training and is ordered to put his mobile phone in his locker, and woe betide him if he doesn't.

Come on Sheffield, it's a time for motivating, cheering up, creating a sense of unity and togetherness.

Not this.

If the Manager was respected it wouldn't be an issue by the way.

[pauliewalnuts]

Dunne turned up for the start of the season overweight - for O'Neill and Kevin Mac not for Houllier. Warnock has been crap for the best part of a year. Luke Young (for reasons unknown) got himself into a position where the previous manager wouldn't play him. Ditto Habib Beye. Carew was out at a lap-dancing club the night before a big game. Ireland has been, and continues to be an unprofessional cock throughout his career. Reo-Coker was in a well-publicised training ground argument with MoN.

Don't pretend that these players were all good as gold, superb professionals until Houllier got here. They weren't. They aren't behaving like unprofessional cocks because they don't respect Houllier. They are behaving like unprofessional cocks because they are unprofessional cocks.

Quite right.

[Toronto Villa]

I said somewhere else, that if Houllier was such a cock as he's made out to be then he wouldn't have acheived any success anywhere. The fact is he has achieved success with a number of different players throughout his career. He's won trophies which must mean he has players that wanted to play for him, and fought for him. He's in a situation now that he has "acquired" players that were loyal to their former governor, because the former governor allowed them considerable liberties in return for guaranteed playing time. New boss, new rules, and they don't like it.

[Bad English]

This morning I had to bollock several students for using their mobile phones in class. The little bastards only started moaning that it's 2011 and they "are fed up of being treated like Villa players".

[peter w]

You might have great shoes and after shave, but you're not an 18th century Lancashire mill owner.

Ha, ha.

I didn't get where I am today by referring to people by their christian names.

What's that? An Imam?

[Concrete John]

I said somewhere else, that if Houllier was such a cock as he's made out to be then he wouldn't have acheived any success anywhere. The fact is he has achieved success with a number of different players throughout his career. He's won trophies which must mean he has players that wanted to play for him, and fought for him. He's in a situation now that he has "acquired" players that were loyal to their former governor, because the former governor allowed them considerable liberties in return for guaranteed playing time. New boss, new rules, and they don't like it.

Isn't that a bit like saying a striker who signs for you and fails to hit the net is still a good player based on all the goals he scored for his previous club?  Which in all fairness is a valid argument for giving him more time.

But at what point do you then conclude that he can't repeat that same success and cut your losses?

With Houllier it's pretty obvious he's been a failiure thus far at Villa - can't see anyone really arguing that point?  The question of whether he can improve his and the club's fortunes is what separates fans and I'm afraid I'm increasingly in the 'get shot in the summer whatever happens' camp. 

[VillaZogmariner]

I seem to remember reading when he was appointed articles quoting Carragher and Gerrard saying that Houllier is the best manager they'd worked with (or words to that effect). Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of either of those players, but they've still done a lot more in this game than the majority of our squad have. (Pires excepted of course).

[JUAN PABLO]

It's a time for players paid huge sums of money to forget about their mobile phones, pink car wheels and jewellery (and in Dunne's case pies and pints) and earn their sodding money. I couldn't care less whether they like, love or hate Houllier.

And it would be an issue if the manager was respected. Dunne turned up for the start of the season overweight - for O'Neill and Kevin Mac not for Houllier. Warnock has been crap for the best part of a year. Luke Young (for reasons unknown) got himself into a position where the previous manager wouldn't play him. Ditto Habib Beye. Carew was out at a lap-dancing club the night before a big game. Ireland has been, and continues to be an unprofessional cock throughout his career. Reo-Coker was in a well-publicised training ground argument with MoN.

Don't pretend that these players were all good as gold, superb professionals until Houllier got here. They weren't. They aren't behaving like unprofessional cocks because they don't respect Houllier. They are behaving like unprofessional cocks because they are unprofessional cocks.

So they don't like Houllier. Well in that case, play and try for the club, for the fans. For themselves, to prove that they still can. For their families to respect them. For other clubs to sign and give them yet more money in the summer. There are five pieces of motivation right there.

Yes Houillier has made mistakes. I'm not certain he's the right man for the job. But treating them like poor, hard-done to little schoolboys - no. No more. There comes a point where they need to motivate themselves. And this is it.

Yes, the pain and suffering that having to put your mobile phone in your locker while at work would cause must be immense. I'd slap a transfer request in straightaway personally.

Playing him out of position ( when he plays) must be hacking him off massively.

Then he gets to Training and is ordered to put his mobile phone in his locker, and woe betide him if he doesn't.

Come on Sheffield, it's a time for motivating, cheering up, creating a sense of unity and togetherness.

Not this.

If the Manager was respected it wouldn't be an issue by the way.

spot on SheffVilla... 

[WikiVilla]

How out of touch with the modern game is GH ? clueless clown

Ok I can accept there needs to be discipline and he is doing what he thinks needs to be done in that respect, but simply can't defend his bizarre tactics, tram selections PR gaffes and cup humiliation

Go now houllier you are destroying our club

[pauliewalnuts]

How out of touch with the modern game is GH ? clueless clown

Ok I can accept there needs to be discipline and he is doing what he thinks needs to be done in that respect, but simply can't defend his bizarre tactics, tram selections PR gaffes and cup humiliation

Go now houllier you are destroying our club

You want Houllier out?

How come you've never  mentioned that before?

[Ian.]

Spot on Sheffield Villain.

What the hell is going on with some of these quotes? Do you read from the top or bottom or work your way from the middle and out?