Sack the Manager?

[phantom limb]

Big Sam would keep us up but would immediately sell every player under 6ft 4" in the summer and we would all die of chronic neckache during the ensuing hoof-fest.

[Ian.]

I really want us to win the next 2 games, move away from relegation just to stop all this talk of Big Sam. I have always got impression he don't like us anyway, I know I don't like his approach and his stupid ear piece, please no.

[PaulWinch again]

I would be horrified to have Allardyce in charge. If Houllier goes, we need to get someone else not Allardyce.

[Simba]

After a moment of confusion at his appointment I supported it. Made sense with his CV as a person to take us to the proverbial next level.

I stayed with him until late December, just. Now I want him away from Villa Park. Results alone are enough, but everything else too documented here to repeat, make his tenure untenable.

He has failed us. He simply has no respect from his players. They are demotivated and confused. That is a management problem.

Get rid of him now. Some of us older guys said that in December that it smelt of relegation. Then a bit of positivety and a big signing(s) slowed down the abuse but results, and player/supporter unrest is now even worse. For good reasons.

The risk of direct action is huge but inaction is worse. We will go down with this man in charge. The team needs inspiration and clarity of purpose. ie some tactical and positioning continuity. And some bloody fight. And a mature solution to the internal bickering. GH cannot supply that motivation or put fire in their bellies.

[Cuz]

Please read this Randy!!!!

After a moment of confusion at his appointment I supported it. Made sense with his CV as a person to take us to the proverbial next level.

I stayed with him until late December, just. Now I want him away from Villa Park. Results alone are enough, but everything else too documented here to repeat, make his tenure untenable.

He has failed us. He simply has no respect from his players. They are demotivated and confused. That is a management problem.

Get rid of him now. Some of us older guys said that in December that it smelt of relegation. Then a bit of positivety and a big signing(s) slowed down the abuse but results, and player/supporter unrest is now even worse. For good reasons.

The risk of direct action is huge but inaction is worse. We will go down with this man in charge. The team needs inspiration and clarity of purpose. ie some tactical and positioning continuity. And some bloody fight. And a mature solution to the internal bickering. GH cannot supply that motivation or put fire in their bellies.

[Louzie0]

I really want us to win the next 2 games, move away from relegation just to stop all this talk of Big Sam. I have always got impression he don't like us anyway, I know I don't like his approach and his stupid ear piece, please no.

What he said -  again and again - Noooooo!  NOT Big Sam. 



Give Le Gaffeur another chance.

He said this season wouldn't be easy and it would get ugly.  The injuries and especially the banners haven't helped because I've read that stupid thing on saturday quoted in the national press as 'how all villa fans are feeling', and that is inevitable if intensely irritating and, even if it's just me, inaccurate.

But I liked the way the team played earlier this season (like against Blackburn) and I think the younger players and some of the older ones are putting it together.  Maybe not always so successfully but I still see promise.   Let's tell the sports reporters on TV and in the papers to F off and stop hyping the differences of opinion and spats behind the scenes.  If this squad can pull together they can get through... with the fans behind them.

I do not want Sky and the NOTW (and others) to determine what happens over the next 8 games by depressing the club with their coverage, dividing the fans and slagging off my team!

[peter w]

That's the important thing. However shit things are now we have just got to pull together in the staqnds and not get on the players backs. Or the managers. When we are staring down the barrel we don't want players too scared to get on the ball, to make mistakes, even to concede. We desperately need the players to feel the fans are behind them for 90 minutes. The club are doing their damnedest to implode i can't see why we are joining in with them. Let's get through this and re-evaluate in the summer.

[Bad English]

i also cant help thinking that the training regime has something to do with the injury situation

Yes, Duverne fucked up the World Cup in South Africa and he made Zidane headbutt the Eytie too.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

I'd take relegation over Allardyce being manager. Never in a million years should his name ever be mentioned when discussing the Villa's management position.

[pauliewalnuts]

Someone on VT, who apparently is close to a couple of the players posted this.

Now, it may be true, it may be bollocks, it may have become exaggerated, but I hope there's no truth in it.

Those who say that these disputes should be kept on the training ground or in the manager's office.

Imagine, for a moment, that issues have been raised by the players regarding defensive training; issues regarding defending of set-pieces, defensive tactics being different for reserves, youths and first team. The players are unsure of their individual and collective roles whilst defending, for example, corners.

What if, when the players raised these issues and concerns, nothing was done about it? And if the concerns that were raised, and the subsequent inaction of the coaching/management staff, resulted in a huge amount of goals and points being surrendered?

The players would be feeling, quite rightly in my opinion, a little bit disappointed that their concerns weren't taken on board. Let's imagine that they were labelled as trouble makers and dissenters for raising their concerns. If they were called, in front of their colleagues, "traitors".

Then, imagine if the management commented in public that the defensive problems were purely of the player's making, that the management were as baffled as anyone as to why there were problems. And if the management were to say, in private, that these players are paid to defend and they should just defend "and stop asking questions".

What if the management responded to the player's concerns by leaving angry voicemail messages, lambasting a player's commitment and accusing them of "treachery"?

At what stage are the players to be forgiven for getting so frustrated that their patience snaps?

I am not condoning any players actions, nor am I commenting on any specific incident. Let's call this a hypothetical situation.

When are the players forgiven for taking their concerns out from the training ground and manager's office?

[eastie]

Peter w don't be fooled into thinking the players are scared by fans reaction- it seems some players couldn't give a toss about anything as long as they get their fat wage packet.


The players are the ones who can save us but not under this manager I fear- they look as though they want him out and are playing like it too.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'd take relegation over Allardyce being manager. Never in a million years should his name ever be mentioned when discussing the Villa's management position.

So would I, frankly.

Relegation would be humiliating, but not half as humiliating as having that cock brained anti-football tosser in charge.

[hawkeye]

"Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities" Winston Churchill

[eastie]

I don't really want Kevin McDonald back in charge but even Kevin the gerbil would be better than this muppet.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't really want Kevin McDonald back in charge but even Kevin the gerbil would be better than this muppet.

Hamster.