Sack the Manager?

[OzVilla]

Slightly off tangent, but - if we stay up - I strongly fancy Houllier to be replaced by Moyes in the summer.

I was thinking the same thing, while lying in bed staring at the ceiling at 2.30am this morning - that's what it's come too.  Thank you very much Aston Villa.

Moyes is seriously treading water with Everton and needs a new challenge.  If, and it's a big if, we stay up then we'd be made for each other imo.

Either way, I hope GED will be history with us by the Summer - i'm sure the feeling his mutual too as i'm sure by now he regrets taking the job.

Hopefully we'll stay up, get Moyes in and get go on from there - and then look back at this time as one of those pivitol moments in the history of Aston Villa where we could have gone either way.

Well it's a straw and I aint letting it go.

[villa for life]

I think Moyes would like to come in the summer and the fact that we spent nearly 30 million in the January Transfer Window must have had him thinking "if only I had those kind of resources".
It's wishful thinking to think he might drop down a league though, so it does depend on us staying up. He could start by gifting us three points next game!

[WikiVilla]

I'd say there's next to no chance that Moyes would leave everton for us. Why on earth would he move sideways, dare I say it backwards??

[ozzjim]

Because of the money he would get to spend Wiki, simple as that. Potentially streets ahead of Everton. Just been mis spent and managed for the last 2-3 years.

[Ian.]

I'd say there's next to no chance that Moyes would leave everton for us. Why on earth would he move sideways, dare I say it backwards??

Bent did. Sometimes you need to move on and start a fresh challenge

I must admit I was willing to give Houllier a go but come summer he needs to go and we also need a fresh start.
For large parts of the season even with all his gaffes I have believed come summer and a final clear out he could achieve something good. GH has way too much in his way to become a success here., too much has gone wrong. He has upset too many people, players fans etc. and its time to start again.....again.

[eastie]

I said a few pages back I think moyes would come here, he needs a new challenge and a quite a few everton fans are on his back, I'd still prefer owen coyle but david moyes would be fine with me.

Either way I don't believe houllier will stay and jump or pushed will be gone in June at the latest, safe or not-the feeling around the club and the season ticket sales will convince randy of that.

[oldMan]

Dont think Randy is going to sack him.

Could be too much of a trusting fool, or could be a master stroke if we stay up and have a cracker next season.

[WikiVilla]

Because of the money he would get to spend Wiki, simple as that. Potentially streets ahead of Everton. Just been mis spent and managed for the last 2-3 years.

Have you seen our finances lately? I'm guessing there won't be too much cash flying around this summer

[oldtimernow]

I'd say there's next to no chance that Moyes would leave everton for us. Why on earth would he move sideways, dare I say it backwards??

Bent did. Sometimes you need to move on and start a fresh challenge

I must admit I was willing to give Houllier a go but come summer he needs to go and we also need a fresh start.
For large parts of the season even with all his gaffes I have believed come summer and a final clear out he could achieve something good. GH has way too much in his way to become a success here., too much has gone wrong. He has upset too many people, players fans etc. and its time to start again.....again.

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Are you saying the manager goes but the players that have got us in this position should stay and enjoy their cosy relaxed lifestyles pulling in the shed loads of money every week for doing bugger all?
If we clear out these parasites then we have a chance to progress.

[ozzjim]

I think Houllier here or not here, the squad will get major surgery this summer, and there will be money to spend.

[eastie]

Most managers will call a clean slate from the start and it's down to the players they prove themselves good enough for whoever takes charge- we are not as attractive proposition as a year ago but if we survive I think we will have no shortage of takers- houllier I think has burnt his bridges and the negativity around the club and fall in gates will surely convince randy it's time for a change.

Let's hope we somehow survive which will not be easy with a team so clearly not playing for the manager.

[Ian.]

I'd say there's next to no chance that Moyes would leave everton for us. Why on earth would he move sideways, dare I say it backwards??

Bent did. Sometimes you need to move on and start a fresh challenge

I must admit I was willing to give Houllier a go but come summer he needs to go and we also need a fresh start.
For large parts of the season even with all his gaffes I have believed come summer and a final clear out he could achieve something good. GH has way too much in his way to become a success here., too much has gone wrong. He has upset too many people, players fans etc. and its time to start again.....again.

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Are you saying the manager goes but the players that have got us in this position should stay and enjoy their cosy relaxed lifestyles pulling in the shed loads of money every week for doing bugger all?
If we clear out these parasites then we have a chance to progress.

No I agree with you, I think most of our troubles have stemmed from these players and they need to be removed. I just worry that too much has been said or done wrong from GH for him to turn it around.
I actually like him and I applaud him for some of the things he has done, I'm just not sure if he is here at the wrong time and place in his life for us, a bit like Dr Jozef many years ago.

[WikiVilla]

Houlier without doubt has been seriously undermined by certain players, nothing short of a disgrace.

I just think a stronger manager would have nipped this in the bud

[eastie]

Houllier and dr jo's years are similar seasons in so many ways - let's hope next season moyes or coyle will be our big ron and take things on from here.

I remember doug used to say chairmen dint sack managers - fans do .

Well I hope mr Lerner has the bottle to admit it's going wrong and is brave enough to pull the trigger- I think season ticket renewals under houllier would be really poor .

[Zhong Yi]

one man who is available and would unite the dressing room...Martin Laursen

admittedly no experience but a class act who could do the job for Aston Villa

- in my opinion.