Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[JD]

Watched the first half and never bothered with the second half. I thought it was that bad.

We are in deep trouble as we don't show enough going forward. I'm not having a go at the young defence today, after all we only conceded one, but when you can't score againt Wolves at your home patch you have problems.

I hate fucking football.   

[OzVilla]

I've got back, had a beer, watched some rugby and generally tried to forget what I've witnessed this afternoon.

But it is no good.

That was about as abject as it gets. 

Back in December there were those of us who were worried about the way the club was heading and started to use the 'R' word.   We were castigated for that view.  Look at the injuries, we were told.  Look at the run of fixtures.   It will all be all right.

Well look at us now.

We need at least three wins from the next six matches to save us.  Can you see that happening?  I can't.

Today a team wearing Villa shirts put on the must gutless, passionless display I've seen at home for a long, long time.  No pride, no desire, no spirit.    Something that at least six of the teams around us have in abundance.

Houllier is a joke.  Never has a manager alienated the fans and presided over such a massive reversal of fortunes.  He is the worst incumbent of the Villa dugout I've ever known.  And I knew the Villa under Billy McNeill.   

Today, his failings in terms of team selection, tactical set-up, deployment of substitutes and motivational skills were - yet again - glaringly obvious.  And that's before I even consider the fact that he threw in the towel on the FA Cup to garner zero points from the next two league games. 

What Collins and Dunne did was unacceptable, but, I actually have sympathy for their assertions that the coaching is joke.  Can anyone who has been today, really say that the Clairefontaine way is reaping any rewards?  The currency of footballing success is victories.  At this stage of the season, it doesn't matter how they are earned.     

100% spot on.  Everything you say is right.

I think the time has come for even the most sensible supporters to realise that we can't afford not to get rid now.  He WILL take us down imo.

I just wish Randy had got shot of him after the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' embarressment as he should have done.

[Tony]

The only positive today was Chris Herd, he looks one hell of a confident player, he always wanted the ball, being a youngster that led to some scary situations but he got away with them.

[swiss1968]

Tony, think gezz could play an important role in the catering department being french and all that ,lol

[hawkeye]

The only positive today was Chris Herd, he looks one hell of a confident player, he always wanted the ball, being a youngster that led to some scary situations but he got away with them.

yep the boy Herd can play, i think he did well, notice he has a very good leap

[Sexual Ealing]

I've got back, had a beer, watched some rugby and generally tried to forget what I've witnessed this afternoon.

But it is no good.

That was about as abject as it gets. 

Back in December there were those of us who were worried about the way the club was heading and started to use the 'R' word.   We were castigated for that view.  Look at the injuries, we were told.  Look at the run of fixtures.   It will all be all right.

Well look at us now.

We need at least three wins from the next six matches to save us.  Can you see that happening?  I can't.

Today a team wearing Villa shirts put on the must gutless, passionless display I've seen at home for a long, long time.  No pride, no desire, no spirit.    Something that at least six of the teams around us have in abundance.

Houllier is a joke.  Never has a manager alienated the fans and presided over such a massive reversal of fortunes.  He is the worst incumbent of the Villa dugout I've ever known.  And I knew the Villa under Billy McNeill.   

Today, his failings in terms of team selection, tactical set-up, deployment of substitutes and motivational skills were - yet again - glaringly obvious.  And that's before I even consider the fact that he threw in the towel on the FA Cup to garner zero points from the next two league games. 

What Collins and Dunne did was unacceptable, but, I actually have sympathy for their assertions that the coaching is joke.  Can anyone who has been today, really say that the Clairefontaine way is reaping any rewards?  The currency of footballing success is victories.  At this stage of the season, it doesn't matter how they are earned.     

The main difference between Houllier and McNeil & O'Leary is the mistifying support he maintains among those supporters who took against our previous manager, O'Neill.

Seemingly no surrender, no relegation can surpass in their disgust the 6th placed finishes he saddled us with.

Are you persisting with that boys?

[Percy McCarthy]

 

Back in December there were those of us who were worried about the way the club was heading and started to use the 'R' word.   We were castigated for that view.     

To be fair, I remember people disagreeing. I can't recall being castigated. But you're right, the signs were all there in that Man City game.

[Greg N'Ash]

most villa fans have a sense of fair play, and while no-one i've met had GH even on their radar as a possible villa manager or even particulary rate him now, they do realise that a lot of his problems in the job have not been helped by the disgusting behavour of some of the players which mirror the attitude of the man who bought them

[Tony]

The main difference between Houllier and McNeil & O'Leary is the mistifying support he maintains among those supporters who took against our previous manager, O'Neill.

Seemingly no surrender, no relegation can surpass in their disgust the 6th placed finishes he saddled us with.

Are you persisting with that boys?

As someone who was 1 an O'Neill fan and 2, has a father and loads of relations from the part of world O'Neill hails from I will say, O'Neill quitting when he did caused maximum damage and was likely planned to do so.

[Percy McCarthy]

I've got back, had a beer, watched some rugby and generally tried to forget what I've witnessed this afternoon.

But it is no good.

That was about as abject as it gets. 

Back in December there were those of us who were worried about the way the club was heading and started to use the 'R' word.   We were castigated for that view.  Look at the injuries, we were told.  Look at the run of fixtures.   It will all be all right.

Well look at us now.

We need at least three wins from the next six matches to save us.  Can you see that happening?  I can't.

Today a team wearing Villa shirts put on the must gutless, passionless display I've seen at home for a long, long time.  No pride, no desire, no spirit.    Something that at least six of the teams around us have in abundance.

Houllier is a joke.  Never has a manager alienated the fans and presided over such a massive reversal of fortunes.  He is the worst incumbent of the Villa dugout I've ever known.  And I knew the Villa under Billy McNeill.   

Today, his failings in terms of team selection, tactical set-up, deployment of substitutes and motivational skills were - yet again - glaringly obvious.  And that's before I even consider the fact that he threw in the towel on the FA Cup to garner zero points from the next two league games. 

What Collins and Dunne did was unacceptable, but, I actually have sympathy for their assertions that the coaching is joke.  Can anyone who has been today, really say that the Clairefontaine way is reaping any rewards?  The currency of footballing success is victories.  At this stage of the season, it doesn't matter how they are earned.     

The main difference between Houllier and McNeil & O'Leary is the mistifying support he maintains among those supporters who took against our previous manager, O'Neill.

Seemingly no surrender, no relegation can surpass in their disgust the 6th placed finishes he saddled us with.

Are you persisting with that boys?

Persisting? They're stepping it up - apparently he's texting them telling them to play crap and get pissed.

[Greg N'Ash]

ah percy. you must be loving this. Still he's never coming back. ever :0)

[Sexual Ealing]

The main difference between Houllier and McNeil & O'Leary is the mistifying support he maintains among those supporters who took against our previous manager, O'Neill.

Seemingly no surrender, no relegation can surpass in their disgust the 6th placed finishes he saddled us with.

Are you persisting with that boys?

As someone who was 1 an O'Neill fan and 2, has a father and loads of relations from the part of world O'Neill hails from I will say, O'Neill quitting when he did caused maximum damage and was likely planned to do so.

I don't see what your first two points have to do with your (difficult to believe and, even if true, increasigly irrelevant) third?

[Tony]

The main difference between Houllier and McNeil & O'Leary is the mistifying support he maintains among those supporters who took against our previous manager, O'Neill.

Seemingly no surrender, no relegation can surpass in their disgust the 6th placed finishes he saddled us with.

Are you persisting with that boys?

As someone who was 1 an O'Neill fan and 2, has a father and loads of relations from the part of world O'Neill hails from I will say, O'Neill quitting when he did caused maximum damage and was likely planned to do so.

I don't see what your first two points have to do with your (difficult to believe and, even if true, increasigly irrelevant) third?

O'Neill quitting when he did fucked up our season.

[Percy McCarthy]

ah percy. you must be loving this. Still he's never coming back. ever :0)

Greg, while O'Neill was here, you were absolutely delighted every time Villa got beat. I hate us losing, as I did then, so don't judge me by your standards. I was as desperate for GH to succeed as you were for MON to fail. Me because I love Villa, you because you said MON was aterrible manager when he was appointed and wanted to be proved right. For all your talk of the Messiah, the Blessed Martin and all that shit that only you and the other MON-haters ever called him, I only judged him on results, not personality, which I don't give a shit about.

I think it's pretty clear, given your sympathy for the hapless present incumbent and your hatred of the previous one, that you place greater emphasis on other things.

By the way, I posted as soon as MON went that if his heart wasn't in it, it's better he goes, and that he bottled a challenging situation. Therefore, I wouldn't want him back.

[Sexual Ealing]

The main difference between Houllier and McNeil & O'Leary is the mistifying support he maintains among those supporters who took against our previous manager, O'Neill.

Seemingly no surrender, no relegation can surpass in their disgust the 6th placed finishes he saddled us with.

Are you persisting with that boys?

As someone who was 1 an O'Neill fan and 2, has a father and loads of relations from the part of world O'Neill hails from I will say, O'Neill quitting when he did caused maximum damage and was likely planned to do so.

I don't see what your first two points have to do with your (difficult to believe and, even if true, increasigly irrelevant) third?

O'Neill quitting when he did fucked up our season.

As I said, it doesn't matter where your dad is from.  O'Neill leaving meant we were unlikely to challenge seriously for Europe (unless we appointed a decent replacement). The board and the board's appointment have to carry the can for our imminent relegation/avoidance of relegation.

And I say that as someone who couldn't give a fuck where anyone's dad is from.