Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[mikeb1982]

If we do find ourselves relegated and in big debt will some people still be singing randys praises? I remember ridsdale was lauded when spending the cash to chase the dream at Leeds and we all know how that turned out - are we about to be the next Leeds?

If we do go down we're more likely to do a Leeds than a Newcastle - we'll lose our best players and effectively have a reserve team go from the reserve league to a 50 game season in the championship

[Oscar Arce]

Talking of Leeds, what another great decision to renew Lichaj's loan just when we have a defensive crisis.
Another Houllier cockup in the Big Book of Houllier Cock-ups

[mr woo]

Mr Woo, you can split hairs over what has gone on, but if you were there today, you surely can see that we are going one way only. Tactically naive, weak in the tackle, and basically not up for the fight.

Totally agree with you there Moose, see my earlier post.

Houllier has to go - I just don't understand how people can be so critical of Lerner when the circumstances at the time left us with a 'new-manager choice' of precisely fuck-all.

It hasn't worked but how many here KNEW it wouldn't ? 

In fact up until a month ago some of the big-shots on here were insisting he was a better manager than Martin O Neill.

Sorry lads, I don't think so..........

[eastie]

Team battling relegation and total lack of fight yet according to radio wm we have 9 players out on loan- wouldn't some of those players be better off helping our cause?

The fonz , bannan and lichaj would all add to our options .

[Fin Feds Dad]

Horrible day - again.

I have tried to be patient with the manager -however, I cannot see what he is trying to do - and liverpool away and man city in the cup were both monumental fuck ups.

The stories I hear from the training ground beggar belief - I can't go into details but no one will be surprised - in a nutshell, an ageing, forgetful old man with no authority and a weak training staff.

Its not too late to get rid - we have two weeks before Everton away - plenty of time for a new regime to make its mark.

Gabby is not a left midfielder - Ashley Young should play on the wing, not 'in the hole' or wherever he fucking wants - Lichaj and Bannan should not have had their loans extended.

I would have brought on Heskey today - their number 5 won everything in the air, without challenge.

There is no leader , no drive or passion from the players - I really fear for our survival.

Its been a truly dreadful season - and it wont be long before season ticket renewal time. 

[TheSandman]

If we do find ourselves relegated and in big debt will some people still be singing randys praises? I remember ridsdale was lauded when spending the cash to chase the dream at Leeds and we all know how that turned out - are we about to be the next Leeds?

If we do go down we're more likely to do a Leeds than a Newcastle - we'll lose our best players and effectively have a reserve team go from the reserve league to a 50 game season in the championship

I think if we go down we might be stuck with a few big earning players like Dunne, Warnock and Beye who no one else would touch with a barge pole. Meanwhile our young players who we want to keep the Albrightons, Bannans etc would get moves to lower premiership clubs leaving us without many good players and in a tricky situation financially. Basically the club fucked by the mismanagement of the past two managers.

[madirishvillain]

If we do find ourselves relegated and in big debt will some people still be singing randys praises? I remember ridsdale was lauded when spending the cash to chase the dream at Leeds and we all know how that turned out - are we about to be the next Leeds?

eastie thats what im scared off

i dont think people on here realise just how bad it will be if we go down

but still not everybody wants Houllier out?!?!?!?!?

[eastie]

Agreed sandman , but the chairman must have sanctioned the wages on those signings and cannot be absolved from any blame.

[Risso]

Agreed sandman , but the chairman must have sanctioned the wages on those signings and cannot be absolved from any blame.

We've had top 6 spending on players and wages, but it's all going to count for nowt because our owner appointed a bottom three level manager.

[Brian Taylor]

that was one to win..essential..8 clubs covered by 3 points..nice.
Roll on the next stage of the torture

[bob]

Horrible day - again.

The stories I hear from the training ground beggar belief - I can't go into details but no one will be surprised - in a nutshell, an ageing, forgetful old man with no authority and a weak training staff.

Stories? Give some details or don't bother mentioning them.

[KevinGage]

There are no excuses left for Houllier.  It was an awful appointment, yet he's managed to do even worse than anybody feared.  He's been abysmal, with no feel for the club and its supporters and absolutely no clue as to how to manage a modern Premier League club.  If we get relegated, which is looking more and more likely as each games passes, Lerner only has himself to blame.  Appointing a past it, washed up no mark as manager, then giving him £20m to spend on one player.  We'd have been better spending the money attracting a proper manager and then asking him to get the best out of players like Agbonlahor and Carew.

The season has been a farce from start to finish, and I'm afraid that the problems have for a large part have been caused by the owner.  I'm starting to see why Cleveland fans haven't got a good word to say about him.

Didn't think he was an awful appointment at the time, I must say. Wasn't my first choice by any means but with candidates like Curbishley, Sven and Phil Orange being touted, I think we got the best we could from a limited selection pool (why we limited it to a selection of out of contract managers is a different argument). And his previous record is not to be sniffed at.

You're right about about the 'worse than anyone could have possibly feared' bit though. That's the clincher for me. Even with pessimistic head on after we'd gobbed it in the last few minutes to Fulham away and Man U at home back in Nov, I didn't envisage 1 point above the drop zone 3 off the bottom going into April.

[luke25]

They sell 6 different varieties of tea in the Lower Trinity, shocking.

[Ethnic Tours]

Lerner and Faulkner deserve their share of the blame for this debacle too, but notwithstanding that point, this bumbling oaf has to go, and go now. Today was a disgrace.  As for who to replace him with, that is frankly a ridiculous reply - ANYONE would be better. I know perceived wisdom amongst certain members of supporters groups is to back this bumbling oaf - heaven forfend one would wish to fall from grace with the most faceless CEO of any club I can think of - surely now the paper thin defence of the man, his method and his madness has to end.

[PeterWithesShin]

Can we have a mid season break that covers the whole of March every year please.

God i'm fucked off with football.