Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[eastie]

keV mac? No way , remember Newcastle away- he is not the man to save us , big Sam would take it for 8 games if the money was right and keeping us up would enhance his reputation.

On a full time basis Owen coyle and David moyes may both be tempted in the summer or Martin jol is available- GED has lost the players and there is no way back once that happens - act now randy!

[ozzjim]

I would still, if I were Houllier or Randy, have the conversation on Monday and say right, how much to get Phil Thompson and Patrice Bergues in even for a 3 month period to do what needs to be done to stick some desire into them. His philosephy is right, but he needs a link to the players and someone that is willing to give them what for. At half time we needed a dogs of war speach, and I don't think that was what was delivered. I strangely really like him, and want him to do well, but want us to stay up more than that, and without fight we won't stay up, today we lacked that fight. Totally deflated.

[pauliewalnuts]

And by the way, that banner at the start was a fucking disgrace, the atmosphere was bad enough to begin with without that.

I said the same thing, absolutely moronic thing to do. How on earth was that going to help? *Before* the match?

[madirishvillain]

see these people that are saying no to big Sam and KM, what fucken planet are you all on?


under Houllier we wont pick up another point, never mind 3 or 4 wins... he has to go, something has to happen to lift the mood and confidence around Villa Park

[Percy McCarthy]

And by the way, that banner at the start was a fucking disgrace, the atmosphere was bad enough to begin with without that.

I said the same thing, absolutely moronic thing to do. How on earth was that going to help? *Before* the match?

You could tell what a wanker he was by his putting his name and copyright on it, the twat.

[sfx412]

I've seen some rubbish tonight, but to suggest putting KM back in charge tops them all.

The players like him, he knows MON's methods and can revert to type. It might not be pretty, but he'd get us the three wins that'd keep us up, probably. 

revert to Mons methods says it all

[Rip Van We Go Again]

And by the way, that banner at the start was a fucking disgrace, the atmosphere was bad enough to begin with without that.

You could tell what a wanker he was by putting his name and copyright on it, the twat.

I said the same thing, absolutely moronic thing to do. How on earth was that going to help? *Before* the match?

Seriously?
I only saw the HOULLIER OUT bit.

[The Situation]

I've seen some rubbish tonight, but to suggest putting KM back in charge tops them all.

From this weeks goings on it is obvious Houllier has lost control of the players and whilst the injury list has been catastrophic much of the problems look self inflicted.

I normally see no point in changing managers so late, KM was bad, Houllier is  no better, Allardyce is no answer, but keeping Houllier will not avoid relegation.
The squad have no idea and more importantly no will to fight for survival, all the others do.

Whether a new man can affect any change in so short a time is unlikely, but

You're right . At this late stage it'd be pointless, there is just no point in firing the manager with 8 games to go. It would be making things harder and we'd look desperate. We've just got to hold out with the current manager.

[Concrete John]

I've seen some rubbish tonight, but to suggest putting KM back in charge tops them all.

The players like him, he knows MON's methods and can revert to type. It might not be pretty, but he'd get us the three wins that'd keep us up, probably. 

revert to Mons methods says it all

Yeah - winning football matches is the last thing we need right now!

[Percy McCarthy]

I've seen some rubbish tonight, but to suggest putting KM back in charge tops them all.

The players like him, he knows MON's methods and can revert to type. It might not be pretty, but he'd get us the three wins that'd keep us up, probably. 

revert to Mons methods says it all

Yeah, cos he was shite at avoiding relegation wasn't he?

[spangley1812]

I've seen some rubbish tonight, but to suggest putting KM back in charge tops them all.

The players like him, he knows MON's methods and can revert to type. It might not be pretty, but he'd get us the three wins that'd keep us up, probably. 

revert to Mons methods says it all

Yeah - winning football matches is the last thing we need right now!

Playing a formation that the players know and understand yeah

[eastie]

Houllier has done a lot of good but he's made many errors too and I feel his choice of Garry mac was the worst of them- once a manager has lost the dressing room there is nowhere to go- it's a shame because I liked what he was trying to do but enough us enough- we must avoid relegation and we will not do that unless the players are motivated and fight for the manager- not in this case.

[NeilH]

I've seen some rubbish tonight, but to suggest putting KM back in charge tops them all.

From this weeks goings on it is obvious Houllier has lost control of the players and whilst the injury list has been catastrophic much of the problems look self inflicted.

I normally see no point in changing managers so late, KM was bad, Houllier is  no better, Allardyce is no answer, but keeping Houllier will not avoid relegation.
The squad have no idea and more importantly no will to fight for survival, all the others do.

Whether a new man can affect any change in so short a time is unlikely, but

You're right . At this late stage it'd be pointless, there is just no point in firing the manager with 8 games to go. It would be making things harder and we'd look desperate. We've just got to hold out with the current manager.

I have no doubt that this is precisely what the board are thinking. I think we simple have to play the percentages between now and the end of this season and hope and prey that there are 3 worse teams than us, because no matter what I can't see Randy pulling the trigger right now. If we manage to get out of this, I suspect Randy will be the first one breathing a massive sigh of relief, downing a stiff whisky and then getting shot of Houllie at the first possible opportunity.

[Concrete John]

I normally refrain from posting right after a match, but we were awful today.

Houllier's biggest problem is he seems not to know how to handle and motivate the modern player.  Technically he's bought the right players, is getting us playing the right way and making good use of the accademy, but from a sheer personality perspective he doesn't have it and never will, IMO.

Not sure I'd sack him now, although wouldn't blame Randy if he did, but regardless of what happens between now and the end of the season I think he HAS to go.

[caster troy]

Re: Emergency Houllier replacement. How about Martin Laursen? I bet we'd see a lot more fight if he was on the touchline. Plus it would galvanise the crowd, most of whom are just waiting for Houllier to fail.

Anyone hear the Downing interview? Not one 'back the manager' type comment. The way he spoke it was like we don't even have a manager.