Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[ozzjim]

First time today I thought he was lost. He has lost them I think, and I think he needs to be eased upstairs. We need something to give us backbone, and fast. Felt desperate today. Not felt this low about a game for a long time. Time to go. I have been with him till now. Got to act to stay up if there is that little fight.

[Toronto Villa]

What about that Bolton bloke? He's doing alright, isn't he?

He's the flavour of the season, and he is doing very well. However, as much he might be interesting in the summer, do we really want a manager that will have jumped from two clubs in the space of 18 months? What's to say, he doesn't start something with us, and bolts as soon as the next bigger job comes along? That would leave us at square one yet again.

[Irish villain]

our mistake was not poaching a manager. Restricting ourself to non contracted managers was folly.

We should have spent big to get in Moyes or Jol.

[Monty]

our mistake was not poaching a manager. Restricting ourself to non contracted managers was folly.

As was restricting ourselves to those with Premier League experience. How much experience had Fergie, Wenger or Mourinho had before they came in? Bizarre, it was like MON's transfer policy.

[Toronto Villa]

First time today I thought he was lost. He has lost them I think, and I think he needs to be eased upstairs. We need something to give us backbone, and fast. Felt desperate today. Not felt this low about a game for a long time. Time to go. I have been with him till now. Got to act to stay up if there is that little fight.

Ozz, you and I have been very much on the same page on things throughout. I certainly don't advocate firing him, and I can certainly see what he is trying to build at the club. But maybe his time is past. Maybe he doesn't have the fire to get in players faces because of his health. I think his brain is fine, but physically he might not be the bloke anymore. I think as a director he could build a very good set up at the club for years to come. But he might not be the man for the touchline any more.

We need to stagger into the summer by any method possible now. Get there, exhale, and start a major renovation job. Because we need it. If Houllier isn't the man, I'd like for us to turn to someone young and hungry with a good track record, and ready to step up.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I'm in agony with a chest infection and I had to endure that gutless load of shit.

And by the way, that banner at the start was a fucking disgrace, the atmosphere was bad enough to begin with without that.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

First time today I thought he was lost. He has lost them I think, and I think he needs to be eased upstairs.

No way, get him out all together, it seems clear that the players don't want to fight for him so there is no point in having him at the club in any shape or form.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

What about that Bolton bloke? He's doing alright, isn't he?

He's the flavour of the season, and he is doing very well. However, as much he might be interesting in the summer, do we really want a manager that will have jumped from two clubs in the space of 18 months? What's to say, he doesn't start something with us, and bolts as soon as the next bigger job comes along? That would leave us at square one yet again.

He'd ceratinly be on my shortlist. Bolton were very unlucky not to get anything at Old Trafford today. I think Coyle will prove to be more than "flavour of the season".

[JJ-AV]

If you get rid alot of the shite will end up having a clean slate. I don't want Warnock, Dunne, Beye, Collins, Petrov etc. here anymore. Does anyone?

I like Coyle though. He is gettable.

[ozzjim]

If we got to the summer, in this league and GH went, Coyle would be my first choice my a mile.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

our mistake was not poaching a manager. Restricting ourself to non contracted managers was folly.

As was restricting ourselves to those with Premier League experience. How much experience had Fergie, Wenger or Mourinho had before they came in? Bizarre, it was like MON's transfer policy.

Spot on Monty. As I've mentioned a few times, I think we only got half the deal when GH became manager without Patrice Berges.

[Irish villain]

our mistake was not poaching a manager. Restricting ourself to non contracted managers was folly.

As was restricting ourselves to those with Premier League experience. How much experience had Fergie, Wenger or Mourinho had before they came in? Bizarre, it was like MON's transfer policy.

Indeed. It was an honest mistake though on Randy's part. GH has let Randy down, big time, especially given the money he was allowed to spend in January.

[Monty]

First time today I thought he was lost. He has lost them I think, and I think he needs to be eased upstairs. We need something to give us backbone, and fast. Felt desperate today. Not felt this low about a game for a long time. Time to go. I have been with him till now. Got to act to stay up if there is that little fight.

Ozz, you and I have been very much on the same page on things throughout. I certainly don't advocate firing him, and I can certainly see what he is trying to build at the club. But maybe his time is past. Maybe he doesn't have the fire to get in players faces because of his health. I think his brain is fine, but physically he might not be the bloke anymore. I think as a director he could build a very good set up at the club for years to come. But he might not be the man for the touchline any more.

We need to stagger into the summer by any method possible now. Get there, exhale, and start a major renovation job. Because we need it. If Houllier isn't the man, I'd like for us to turn to someone young and hungry with a good track record, and ready to step up.

Agreed. Klinnsmann or Bilic, for me, if possible. The club as a whole seems to have no vigour at the moment, no drive, spark or direction. Houllier has all the right ideas, but maybe the necessary madness isn't there anymore. I remember Arrigo Sacchi after he'd left Milan - he did so much to impose his vision and, when he'd finally achieved everything he'd set out to, he didn't have the will to impose his vision any more and hasn't managed successfully again. His ideas and philosophy are as impeccable as ever - but I wouldn't appoint him as manager because the fire is gone. The same may be said of Houllier.

[sfx412]

I've seen some rubbish tonight, but to suggest putting KM back in charge tops them all.

From this weeks goings on it is obvious Houllier has lost control of the players and whilst the injury list has been catastrophic much of the problems look self inflicted.

I normally see no point in changing managers so late, KM was bad, Houllier is  no better, Allardyce is no answer, but keeping Houllier will not avoid relegation.
The squad have no idea and more importantly no will to fight for survival, all the others do.

Whether a new man can affect any change in so short a time is unlikely, but

[JJ-AV]

I've seen some rubbish tonight, but to suggest putting KM back in charge tops them all.

The players like him, he knows MON's methods and can revert to type. It might not be pretty, but he'd get us the three wins that'd keep us up, probably.