Will GH last the season?

[Risso]

If on Saturday evening we have 23 points from our last 24 games and have been beaten at home by Wolves - arguably the easiest fixture we have left to play this season - I think he should go.

That wouldn't be a knee-jerk reaction, it would be a reasonable reaction to a desperate situation that Le Gaffeur appears unable to deal with.

Having said that, if we do beat Wolves the board can and probably should wait till the end of the season.

So, the whole thing pivots around one game? The difference between a measured decision of "get rid" and "keep him"?

Out of interest, what would you do if we sacked him on Saturday? Who would you give the job to?

It wouldn't be just one game though really would it?  That game, if lost, would be the culmination of a season of ineptitude.

[Villa'Zawg]

 pauliebentnuts: --- Quote from: Villadawg on Today at 10:30:13 AM ---If on Saturday evening we have 23 points from our last 24 games and have been beaten at home by Wolves - arguably the easiest fixture we have left to play this season - I think he should go.That wouldn't be a knee-jerk reaction, it would be a reasonable reaction to a desperate situation that Le Gaffeur appears unable to deal with.Having said that, if we do beat Wolves the board can and probably should wait till the end of the season. --- End quote ---So, the whole thing pivots around one game? The difference between a measured decision of "get rid" and "keep him"?Out of interest, what would you do if we sacked him on Saturday? Who would you give the job to?

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The decision is "get rid" or "get rid at the end of the season".

If he isn't able to put a team out to beat Wolves, there's no reason to hope he will be able to do better in the other games we have left.

With his appalling record so far as Villa manager and in light of his past health problems, I would hope that the board have a succession plan in place this time.

[freakypete]

wotever opinons we have on GH lets be fair Dunne is an arse hole he also bullied young players at manx c,if and its a big if.... we stay up the lets give him the summer to sort this fucking mess out

[eastie]

Let's not treat wolves as the be all and end all- we have serious defensive injuries at the moment and with Clark suspended and doubts over young, Collins and cuellar , dunne out too we are down to the bare bones - to blame him if we lose to wolves would be harsh in the circumstances.

[VillaAlways]

Let's not treat wolves as the be all and end all- we have serious defensive injuries at the moment and with Clark suspended and doubts over young, Collins and cuellar , dunne out too we are down to the bare bones - to blame him if we lose to wolves would be harsh in the circumstances.

Cuellar said he's 100 % fit to face Wolves on his live chat today

[Jimbo]

I don't want him to go this season, as that will mean we're seriously in the shit. If we escape, my head tells me he should probably be given a chance to clear out the disgusting, fat, self-important over-paid wankers masquerading as Aston Villa players, and crack on with establishing his team as a top-six side. My gut tells me he'll succeed with the former, but he hasn't got a prayer in achieving the latter. If we're still in the same boat come Christmas, he'll have to go. By then, by God, I hope Randy has got a plan B sorted because another season like this one will be too much to bear.

[WikiVilla]

Having Cuellar back is positive. I think Collins may feature also

[5ft811st2 Durham]

He will last to the end of the season, but no further.  Thank God!

What nakes you say that?  Surely the backing he was given in Jan suggests that Randy at least intends for him to be around longer than that?

Of course it does.

I'd liken in to Stuart Downing, everyone with any sense knew that it would take a proper pre-season for us to see the best of him. This summer GH has the opportunity to get the players he wants and the time to prepare them correctly.

I don't think the funds given to GH in January was in any way an indicator that Randy has any particular faith in him.

Randy had a choice in January. Either give a poor manager substantial funds for new players or sack him,, pay him off, pay compensation to the replacement's previous club  and trust the replacement to keep us up without any additions to  the current squad.

I think in the short term he he made the right choice. A bad manager with good players is better than a good manager with poor players (not to say our players were poor but clearly the squad has been improved) which is why I am confident we'll stay up easily.

However for the long term Houllier has to go. With the squad at his disposal our results are well short of par which I attribute to GH's failure to motivate and  organise. His man management needless to say is pathetic.
 

[villa for life]

A couple of things spring to mind having read the thread

This knee jerk reaction phrase that gets used very often on this site. I notice however that it is only used against posters who voice their dissatisfaction/overreaction after losing a game.
Could the term "knee jerk reaction" also be used against posters who talk about the possibility of getting 6th or qualifying for Europe, say as they did after our 4-1 win over Blackburn?

Secondly, I wonder how late into a season a manager has been sacked? Would it really be suicidal to sack a manager if the hypothetical situation occurred. How else could the morale be lifted?

[WikiVilla]

4-1 win over Blackburn?

4 !!?? Fuck it, I knew I shouldn't have left early

[eastie]

Having cuellar back is a huge boost and great news - forget about houllier being sacked , it would be ridiculous to do so with a few games left - give him at least until Christmas and see where we are - I feel he will get us back on track.

[WikiVilla]

I think after we've hammered Wolves, threads like this will be less common

[eastie]

Are you sure wiki, I think some people have made their mind up on GED and doubt a couple of wins will appease them?

[Risso]

I'd liken in to Stuart Downing, everyone with any sense knew that it would take a proper pre-season for us to see the best of him. This summer GH has the opportunity to get the players he wants and the time to prepare them correctly.

You could just as reasonably liken him to Marlon Harewood, Curtis Davies or Emile Heskey, who anybody with any sense knew would turn out to be as much use as tits on a nun, despite many people making excuses for them.

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

I think after we've hammered Wolves, threads like this will be less common

No way are we going to "hammer" Wolves. They were excellent against spurs. And have great fight back mentality, and with our defence being how it has been this will be a battle .......