Villa players in drunken bust up

[WikiVilla]

PFA Rules / guidelines

Thought they were going to hit Dunne harder - 6 weeks ??

Sorry, what I meant was what is the legal basis behind this? It's certainly not EU law because in the Armed Forces you can be fined a lot more than just 2 weeks pay (trust me, I know!)

No idea mate, if punches were thrown, in most workplaces you'd be gone for Gross Misconduct

[myf]

The last three weeks have been depressing.  Lets hope we can turn it around tomorrow

[Chris Smith]

PFA Rules / guidelines

Thought they were going to hit Dunne harder - 6 weeks ??

Sorry, what I meant was what is the legal basis behind this? It's certainly not EU law because in the Armed Forces you can be fined a lot more than just 2 weeks pay (trust me, I know!)

It's employment terms and conditions, most organisations will have a set of sanctions agreed between management and the union. 

[eastie]

From the report I read dunne and Collins were unhappy cowans wasn't punished too as according to the report all 3 were the worse for wear through drinking, anyway let's get to June and offload both.

[LeeB]

So under what circumstances can you fine a player more than two weeks wages?

Rape? Murder? Child Molesting? I'm sure the best paid union boss in the world would find a way to justify his memebers.

[peter w]

To be fair I think that would be more down the sacking route.

[LeeB]

To be fair I think that would be more down the sacking route.

I know, but I was just doing my "Outraged of Coleshill" bit.

And to be fair, probably everyone else in the world would be facing the sack for what they did.

[VillaZogmariner]

PFA Rules / guidelines

Thought they were going to hit Dunne harder - 6 weeks ??

Sorry, what I meant was what is the legal basis behind this? It's certainly not EU law because in the Armed Forces you can be fined a lot more than just 2 weeks pay (trust me, I know!)

It's employment terms and conditions, most organisations will have a set of sanctions agreed between management and the union.

So it seems the PFA (Union) have the football clubs by the bollocks then.

[Chris Smith]

So under what circumstances can you fine a player more than two weeks wages?

Rape? Murder? Child Molesting? I'm sure the best paid union boss in the world would find a way to justify his memebers.

If they break the law rather than breach internal discipline I assume.

The truth is we don't know what happened here, we have seen some reports but nothing of substance as to what exactly they were  disciplined over.

Althoug natural curiosity means I'd like to know I accept that from the point of view of the club the best thing is to keep it in house, we don't need more headlines dragging this on for weeks.

[Rigadon]

So under what circumstances can you fine a player more than two weeks wages?

Rape? Murder? Child Molesting? I'm sure the best paid union boss in the world would find a way to justify his memebers.

If they break the law rather than breach internal discipline I assume.

The truth is we don't know what happened here, we have seen some reports but nothing of substance as to what exactly they were  disciplined over.

Althoug natural curiosity means I'd like to know I accept that from the point of view of the club the best thing is to keep it in house, we don't need more headlines dragging this on for weeks.

Well said, Chris.  It will probably come out when one or both of the players have moved clubs.  Ultimately, whatever internal damage / discipline has been done / meted out regardless of our own morbid curiosity! 

[WikiVilla]

Damage already done. Club name dragged through mud via the tabloids
Both players unavailable for tomorrow and beyond ??

[DB]

PFA Rules / guidelines

Thought they were going to hit Dunne harder - 6 weeks ??

Sorry, what I meant was what is the legal basis behind this? It's certainly not EU law because in the Armed Forces you can be fined a lot more than just 2 weeks pay (trust me, I know!)

It's employment terms and conditions, most organisations will have a set of sanctions agreed between management and the union.

So it seems the PFA (Union) have the football clubs by the bollocks then.

Union??? How many companies nowadays have unions??? In my area of work, none of them do.

[Rancid custard]

DO NOT bloody stick him with the kids!!!
Jesus H Christ, man. You want HIS attitude rubbing off? No way.
Stick him on toilet cleaning duties.

Excellent Idea Troy! As well as fines and apologies dissent in the ranks of the first team should be met with community order style punishment, Hoover the offices, get on a scaffold and polish the AVFC sign, serve tea at board meetings, pick up fag butts littered around the concourses and clean the toilets.

[black pearl of inchicore]

BONDING SESSION EVENING SUPPLEMENT.

Just finished  Paddy's Day bonding session... 
Hash cakes washed down with a Tonne of Guinness=No Hangover.

[Jon Crofts]

Union??? How many companies nowadays have unions??? In my area of work, none of them do.

Your area of work?  You're using the term in it's loosest possible sense.

UCW & STE for Telco's