Gerard's gaffes

[Percy McCarthy]

Fickle to the core is spot on ROBBO!

Without Houllier we wouldn't have Bent Makoun or Walker.

He has improved us massively and will continue to improve, but people need to stop having such a blinkered view on everything.

He tried Gabby on the wing to protect Clark at LB which worked perfect at Chelsea, he has now dropped Gabby and played a much more effective Albrighton there. He isn't perfect and is getting hammered for every mistake yet getting no credit for the outweighing positives.

I predict alot of people will be on here next season saying "I was wrong about gerrard etc" like most have been about Downing, sure there will be the idiots who will never give him a chance like the people who still slate downing now.

I'd rather be fickle than completely deluded.

Massively improved?  Outweighing positives?  What are the postives that outweigh being in a relegation battle all season, chucking the FA Cup in like a coward, and generally being inept at every single turn?

See this is what I don't get.

Fickle to me would be "Gerard's great!  We've never had a manager as great as him!"  one game. And then the same people saying "Boo!  Get rid." Next time out.

What I actually see is those who have had doubts about him from the beginning not being swayed by the odd good result (and when you strip it down, that's all it's been this year) and those who think he's doing a good/acceptable/  job not seemingly swayed by a whole series of poor results.  I wouldn't suggest either are fickle, I'm sure both believe what they believe based on some form of logic. It just appears to me that the latter argument relies more on faith/ hope than substance.

When a new manager takes over, you look for signs that he is having a positive effect. That generally manifests itself in results most obviously, but also individual player form. On both counts (minus a brief up turn in form from Ivanhoe for a few months) that hadn't been the case. Indeed, it seems a fair few players have regressed.  That's why I don't automatically think that more time for Houllier past this summer = guaranteed upturn in fortune next year.

If there was a sustained period of improvement over a number of games, hell if the defence even put a few clean sheets together, some of those who have major doubts about the bloke (like me) might revisit that. If that qualifies as fickle then I'll wear it. On most decisions my conclusions may change when the evidence changes, but maybe I'm funny that way.

Spot on Kevin. I admit I was warming to him, after wanting him sacked after the Man City away league game. Then there was the cup, and now this absolute tripe that he is spouting about our defending, and I'm beginning to lose the hope that some better football had instilled in me. So, still undecided, but I don't expect to be called fickle when the evidence either way becomes more compelling.

[Risso]

It shouldn't come as a complete surprise that people don't know the true meaning of the word "fickle" Kev.  It's been used by people to mean "I don't agree with you" since that infamous night against Wycombe.

[richardhubbard]

I often think its a brummy trate that we like to argue especially re footy. H&V is this poor run goes on, may hit the peaks of the era of DOL!!!

Houiller biggest gaff was signing the contract, I dont think he will be around in the summer personally.

Looking at him on the bench on Wednesday he looked like he wanted to be on the beach in St Tropez.

Not in Manchester on a cold wednesday night.

I know we keep saying we got an easy run in, but we making hard work of it at the moment.

I dont over rate his signing, yeah bent scored 3 well done and Walker looks good.

Bradley not started more than 1 game in 2 months and Pires is over the hill.

Makoun looks good in patches but then is missing for a month.

Time will tell but I think we struggle all season now, we are firmly in a rut

[ozzjim]

I love the "this poor run" bit that we are seeing trotted out. We have lost once, having led twice and been the better team by a mile, and yet we are on a bad run. The league game before we won 4-1. We are out the cup and people need to get to grips with that, but all in we have been better recently and the team is playing quite well in many aspects. With our best defenders back soon, i am sure that we will win the 3 matches it will take to stay up, then GH can continue the sorting.

[richardhubbard]

Piss Poor Run Ozz, we beat Blackburn, there on a shocking run

Since Jan 1 we run 3, Wigan Away a relegation outfit, Man City at home but we had one chance! and Blackburn

We drew 3, Fulham, Blackpool and Bham. All potential relegation teams

We lost against Sunderland, Bolton and Man Utd.

12 points out of 27! yippee

I would expect us to beat Blackpool, Fulham and Bham in recent seasons and draw with Sunderland at home and Bolton away.

We really have fallen away

[Shrek]

Alot on here don't like Houllier, that's fair enough but I have simply identified his positives, I havent said he is perfect, far from it.

He was a cock at Liverpool, abit to gobby in the media and unbelievably gave up on the FA cup. But I for one am so so glad he is here instead of Oneil.
The football is much better an less predictable and we seem to be planning for the future instead of being used as a stepping stone to a bigger club.

[Cuz]

tried to like him tried to be posistive with him now i can't wait until him and the GMac mute leave, been a shockin season no positives like the last days of D O'L 

[koreanmeatballs]

Another stunning quote from Geddy Bear. Speechless.

Anybody else watch Wolves keep whipping quality balls in yesterday? uh-oh.

[Clampy]

He said something the other day along the lines of 'Villa fans are blaming me for the Arsenal Keeper messing up' referring to the Carling Cup Final. I hope he was misquoted because that's a pretty ridiculous thing to say.

As for gaffes, other than the Man City game, i think being happy to loan John Carew to the Baggies, a relegation rival, was one i'm glad did'nt actually happen.

[JUAN PABLO]

Piss Poor Run Ozz, we beat Blackburn, there on a shocking run

Since Jan 1 we run 3, Wigan Away a relegation outfit, Man City at home but we had one chance! and Blackburn

We drew 3, Fulham, Blackpool and Bham. All potential relegation teams

We lost against Sunderland, Bolton and Man Utd.

12 points out of 27! yippee

I would expect us to beat Blackpool, Fulham and Bham in recent seasons and draw with Sunderland at home and Bolton away.

We really have fallen away

Im sure Liverpool would expect to beat Blackpool home and away . Well it didnt happen.

[cheltenhamlion]

17 points from their last 27 and Kung Fu Kenny is a masterstroke of an appointment I might add.

I honestly wonder about the the meltdown this site would go into if Oliver Cunting Holt wrote some of the thins about us our fans do.

And I hate that sanctimonious little prick.

[hawkeye]

Richard Dunne has played dozens of Internationals, has vast experience in the Pl, so why not get him to organise the defence?

[cheltenhamlion]

Because he would organise them into a trio of desserts?

[Risso]

Richard Dunne has played dozens of Internationals, has vast experience in the Pl, so why not get him to organise the defence?

Because 4 years of playing for O'Neill has taught him bad habits.

[Shrek]

Richard Dunne has played dozens of Internationals, has vast experience in the Pl, so why not get him to organise the defence?

Because everything is Gerrards fault you know