Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[oldtimernow]

sorry we are starting to look a lot like the Aston Vanilla of a few years back, the kids are in danger of being overwhelmed by it which would be a great shame.
I think Houllier really needs to think hard and long about the role that Ashley Young is fulfilling(or not), I feel that he is allowed far too much leeway in a match, tries to make himself the star of the team when taking corners, freekicks etc.....I wait until he takes the goal kicks and then I will know its time to give up.

[dave.woodhall]

Ah, I love all the posters who decry anyone with a negative take on events. Ok, let's look at it. With 9 games to go, even if we win every damn game left we can't reach our points total of last or the season before's, total. That's impressive isn't it? If we win every one we equal our points total of 3 seasons ago.

It's extremely unlikely that we'll make the 50 points of MON's first season. Believe me, I've no time for MON. However I've no time either for the apologists who excuse every defeat.

If we lose our last nine games someone on here would explain every bastard one away!

Great post. Dave Woodhall will explain the 9 defeats i bet you, at the same time licking Mr Lerner all over.

Hey, that was clever. Really funny, and at the same time veritably Wildean.

I wasnt being funny I was being truthful.

And now you're being banned.

[Tony]

Not long back and about to go out again, so to keep it brief.

I can't believe we didn't get 3 points, let alone lose.

Fault? Not Houllier's today.  With the exception of bringing off Albrighton, I don't think he got much wrong.  If a £20 million striker can't put away the chances he got today, then we may as well have saved the money.

I've said before Ashley is a liability as a penalty taker.  I don't know his record, but he's not a nine out of tenner, which is what you want.

Oh, and why the fuck didn't we have a defender on the far post for their first goal? Text book defending from a corner.

Creating chances and not taking them, that happens to all teams and that's something you can't pin on the manager, in fact he gets credit for putting out a team capable of creating chances like that, but your final point explains why we're in the shit and I'm sorry, I do blame the manager for that because we've been crap at defending corners all season and he doesn't seem to have a clue how to deal with the problem.

[madirishvillain]

Ah, I love all the posters who decry anyone with a negative take on events. Ok, let's look at it. With 9 games to go, even if we win every damn game left we can't reach our points total of last or the season before's, total. That's impressive isn't it? If we win every one we equal our points total of 3 seasons ago.

It's extremely unlikely that we'll make the 50 points of MON's first season. Believe me, I've no time for MON. However I've no time either for the apologists who excuse every defeat.

If we lose our last nine games someone on here would explain every bastard one away!

Great post. Dave Woodhall will explain the 9 defeats i bet you, at the same time licking Mr Lerner all over.

Hey, that was clever. Really funny, and at the same time veritably Wildean.

I wasnt being funny I was being truthful.

And now you're being banned.

harsh, very harsh Dave

no sense of humour?

anyway tell us why mods on here stopped the general threads agian?

[DeKuip]

Gave my ticket away for today in disgust at the other night, so have only heard reports.
Being at home did enable me to watch some Soccer Saturday though and pre-match there was an interesting interview with Bryan Jones of the academy and Barry Bannan. Jones spoke of an exciting group of u16s we now have, and also quite rightly of his pride at seeing Craig Gardner and Ridgewell getting cup winners medals last week. There was mention of all the lads who have come through the academy, including Gareth Barry.
The one that wasn't mentioned was Gary Cahill. Of all the ex-academy players we've let go, he's one that would walk back into our team now. The annoying thing is he was good enough to be in the side when we sold him too.

Also Rambo spoke from the heart about his disappointment as a Villa fan at Houllier's decision on Weds, like most of us he just couldn't understand the reasoning behind it. But I've said enough about that on other threads.

[Eigentor]

One league victory and the thread "how much credit does the manager deserve for our progress" is started. Posters generally agree that he deserves a lot, and the future looks bright. And, hey, Randy deserves praise, as well, for not resorting to knee-jerk reactions but backing GH when things looked bad.

One cup defeat against Man City and an unfortunate defeat against Bolton and we're going down for sure.

We will stay up. Next season GH will have the opportunity to mould his own squad and his own coaching team (God knows how many phone calls he had to make to finally get an assistant manager in). He'll have a full pre-season, and then we'll see.
 

[dave.woodhall]

Ah, I love all the posters who decry anyone with a negative take on events. Ok, let's look at it. With 9 games to go, even if we win every damn game left we can't reach our points total of last or the season before's, total. That's impressive isn't it? If we win every one we equal our points total of 3 seasons ago.

It's extremely unlikely that we'll make the 50 points of MON's first season. Believe me, I've no time for MON. However I've no time either for the apologists who excuse every defeat.

If we lose our last nine games someone on here would explain every bastard one away!

Great post. Dave Woodhall will explain the 9 defeats i bet you, at the same time licking Mr Lerner all over.

Hey, that was clever. Really funny, and at the same time veritably Wildean.

I wasnt being funny I was being truthful.

And now you're being banned.

harsh, very harsh Dave

no sense of humour?

anyway tell us why mods on here stopped the general threads agian?

Oh yes, it's hilarious. I'm just here to be insulted all day long.

It hasn't been stopped; the last time he replied was yesterday afternoon.

[madirishvillain]

Ah, I love all the posters who decry anyone with a negative take on events. Ok, let's look at it. With 9 games to go, even if we win every damn game left we can't reach our points total of last or the season before's, total. That's impressive isn't it? If we win every one we equal our points total of 3 seasons ago.

It's extremely unlikely that we'll make the 50 points of MON's first season. Believe me, I've no time for MON. However I've no time either for the apologists who excuse every defeat.

If we lose our last nine games someone on here would explain every bastard one away!

Great post. Dave Woodhall will explain the 9 defeats i bet you, at the same time licking Mr Lerner all over.

Hey, that was clever. Really funny, and at the same time veritably Wildean.

I wasnt being funny I was being truthful.

And now you're being banned.

harsh, very harsh Dave

no sense of humour?

anyway tell us why mods on here stopped the general threads agian?

Oh yes, it's hilarious. I'm just here to be insulted all day long.

It hasn't been stopped; the last time he replied was yesterday afternoon.

insulted?

jesus wept, do you get out of the house often?

im away before i get banned

[VillaZogmariner]

You won't be missed.

[madirishvillain]

You won't be missed.

very true.

imagine if they banned both of us?

[darren woolley]

I didn't see it but i'm feeling really down and pissed off now other than that i did have Darren Bent to score first goal.

[Dave Cooper please]

If nothing else this season has shown we need a massive overhaul in the summer.

And I'm going to disagree.
I saw enough today (okay via a dodgy feed) and against Blackburn to tell me that we need tweaking, not overhauling.
New keeper, yes, one more dominant defender, yes, perhaps another striker, yes, but a massive overhaul? No.

If we could somehow persuade some numpty to pay £25million for Ashley that would probably buy us the players we need to be a very good side indeed, that and a whole summer of training our defence on how to defend a corner.

We aren't far away you know, and we are not, I repeat, NOT, going down.

[cheltenhamlion]

Sorry Dave, I didn't make it clear. I was talking squad overhaul rather than team. We are 3 short in the first eleven and 7 for changing of the guard for the squad.

[Dave Cooper please]

I actually think Nigel Clough could do a better job.

I don't, he's a whinging cunt.

A dreadful appointment at Derby.

Burton manager for years and fuck all else, employed purely on the basis that his Dad was revered there.

Not ready for the Premier league by any means but I think you are doing him a disservice - he worked miracles at Burton and turned them from a struggling southern league outfit with a tin pot ground into a thriving league club. To the people of Burton he is thought of in the same way we think of Paul McGrath and this is why the club up the road took a punt on him not because of who is Dad is.

He did very well to get Burton into The Conference I'll admit, but the approximately two million quid they made from playing Manchester United in The Cup and the fact that the local council gave them a spanking new stadium with fantastic facilities for nothing meant that they were able to outspend everyone to get into the League.
He didn't work miracles, he did okay, shame he had to be such an arsehole while he was doing it.

[Dave Cooper please]

Sorry Dave, I didn't make it clear. I was talking squad overhaul rather than team. We are 3 short in the first eleven and 7 for changing of the guard for the squad.

Fair enough.