Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[brian green]

We had our chance at Christmas when there was still enough time to stave off the spectre of relegation but we bottled it.

The standard perceived wisdom then was we don't want to play ugly football a la Allardyce we don't want survival football.   If playing a weakened team when a home tie in the FA Cup quarter finals against Reading is the prize in order to play elaborate pretty LOSING football to Bolton Wanderers is not survival football I don't know what is.   We are going right down to the wire and I think Liverpool will send us down.

[madirishvillain]

We

If we can get the defence sorted out for next season (and we don't go down) then there's plent to be optimistic about. A worry is though that at least 3 of that side (Young, Walker and Reo Coker) might not be here.

For the first time this season Chris, I think we're going down.
He hasn't sorted out the comically bad defence and I don't think he will any time soon.
We're fucked.

we had 3 central defenders injured. Were not going down

this is why we are going down


we created loads of chance, we had 3 central defenders out today

we got

nil points

if we keep getting nil points

we are fucked

end of

[Billy Walker]

Haven't seen it posted so

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/9415840.stm

First time we have seen him like that by my reckoning. Looks a bit bothered.

He does look bothered. I don't dislike Houllier as a man, he's a decent sort, in fact I feel for him. I just really can't see him being successful with us, I just can't.

I can but we've got to stick with him, get behind the team and simply fight our way  up that table.  No negativity -  just positivity to see us through this incredibly frustrating season.  There'll be one or two more setbacks between now and season's close but we've just got to stick together and see it through.   

[Chris Smith]

But we don't "keep getting nil points" do we?

We are still in a precarious position but there is no need to exaggerate it to try to make a point.

[sfx412]

However, we've actually got some tricky fixtures left - Arsenal away, Liverpool at home towards the end of the season. Next we have Wolves at home next, then followed by Everton away, Newcastle at home, West Ham away, Stoke at home.

If these defensive frailities persist, then I can see matches like West Ham and Stoke (we've got form against them) going against us, and that would put us in a very dodgy situation.

I think we'll be ok, but the fact is we shouldn't be anything like in so much trouble.

Well hopefully we will soon have Collins, Cuellar and Dunne back, which should help shore up the defence especially if they get a run of games together and the rest perform as they did today and against Blackburn.

[TimTheVillain]

Haven't seen it posted so

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/9415840.stm

First time we have seen him like that by my reckoning. Looks a bit bothered.

He does look bothered. I don't dislike Houllier as a man, he's a decent sort, in fact I feel for him. I just really can't see him being successful with us, I just can't.

My thoughts Jimbo.

Decent enough bloke, past it as a Manager.

[WikiVilla]

Just back from The Reebok.

First of all, as always the away support was fantastic.

Secondly, I can't believe we lost, we had a hatful of chances, they had 3 and took them all. All of their goals from corners !!

Friedl is finished IMO, never comes off his line for the ball or to clear the ball, now a liability.

Bent was wasteful, other than that I thought they played well.

[sfx412]

But we don't "keep getting nil points" do we?

We are still in a precarious position but there is no need to exaggerate it to try to make a point.

True, but he's not a lucky manager is he, in all his years with us Mon never had a season so full of injuries.
In fact its hard to remember when we last did, was it one of JG's seasons.

I can't see us going down 3 wins should do it along with a few draws, but if this injury blight continues as the kids despite the rhetoric aren't up to it, we could just miss out and go down.

[madirishvillain]

But we don't "keep getting nil points" do we?

We are still in a precarious position but there is no need to exaggerate it to try to make a point.

sorry about that Chris

fantastic game today, loads of goals all jolly good fun

them chaps scored 1 more than us - nil points

hey ho, still too good to go down

[AVFCRob]

Ah, I love all the posters who decry anyone with a negative take on events. Ok, let's look at it. With 9 games to go, even if we win every damn game left we can't reach our points total of last or the season before's, total. That's impressive isn't it? If we win every one we equal our points total of 3 seasons ago.

It's extremely unlikely that we'll make the 50 points of MON's first season. Believe me, I've no time for MON. However I've no time either for the apologists who excuse every defeat.

If we lose our last nine games someone on here would explain every bastard one away!

[brian green]

Well said Rob   Needed saying.

[cheltenhamlion]

If nothing else this season has shown we need a massive overhaul in the summer.

[Bottom Right 89]

I actually think Nigel Clough could do a better job.

I don't, he's a whinging cunt.

A dreadful appointment at Derby.

Burton manager for years and fuck all else, employed purely on the basis that his Dad was revered there.

Not ready for the Premier league by any means but I think you are doing him a disservice - he worked miracles at Burton and turned them from a struggling southern league outfit with a tin pot ground into a thriving league club. To the people of Burton he is thought of in the same way we think of Paul McGrath and this is why the club up the road took a punt on him not because of who is Dad is.

He also gives a fuck about the FA Cup something our club could learn from.

[WikiVilla]

The next 4 games all of a sudden look a bit trickier
Wolves
Everton
West ham
Stoke
Unless the defence is finally addressed we could easily lose them all

[tarzansbrother]

Ah, I love all the posters who decry anyone with a negative take on events. Ok, let's look at it. With 9 games to go, even if we win every damn game left we can't reach our points total of last or the season before's, total. That's impressive isn't it? If we win every one we equal our points total of 3 seasons ago.

It's extremely unlikely that we'll make the 50 points of MON's first season. Believe me, I've no time for MON. However I've no time either for the apologists who excuse every defeat.

If we lose our last nine games someone on here would explain every bastard one away!

Great post. Dave Woodhall will explain the 9 defeats i bet you, at the same time licking Mr Lerner all over.