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Author Topic: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it  (Read 94863 times)

Offline eastie

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #270 on: March 09, 2011, 01:24:47 PM »
I'd far rather milner than ash anyday personally, but it will not happen.

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #271 on: March 09, 2011, 01:26:14 PM »
I would easily change Milner with Ash..

Get over Milner, he ain't coming back

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #272 on: March 09, 2011, 02:11:02 PM »
I rate Ashley Young as  a very good player. I offer you two independent insights.

I enjoyed a dinner with a football professional who has been involved with AY since he joined Watford.His view was that AY's lack of intelligence and inadequate  footballing ambition and desire meant that he was destined to fall short at the highest level IInternationals/ CL).

I know a much capped ex England international who has spent time with AY, Milner and Barry on a number of occasions. He told me that, Barry and Milner in particular fired volleys of questions at him seeking to learn from his experiences (Milner had an encyclopedic knowledge of International football, teams, players and tactics from the 60's onwards). Young just put his headphones on.
Interesting stuff and very believable.

Believable maybe, but so what?  Barry and Milner both strike me as of above average intelligence for footballers, whereas Ashley Young is probably more your stereotypical thickie.  But so what?  Some of the best footballers in the league are as thick as pigshit and twice as arrogant.  I can't imagine Ashley Cole or Wayne Rooney behaving any differently to Young for example.

I'd rather keep Young than have Milner or Barry back, personally.
My 'take' on the GaryFourOaks post above is:
Players with perception, an interest in their sport and a natural inquisitiveness will get on better than those who sit back and accept their talent unquestioningly.
Another example is Rooney: not clever, but he is a v perceptive player.

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #273 on: March 11, 2011, 08:54:21 AM »

Offline WikiVilla

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #274 on: March 11, 2011, 09:01:22 AM »
Let's hopefully enjoy his last 9 games in Villa colours

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #275 on: March 11, 2011, 09:15:20 AM »
Supposedly Man Utd after him, but come on, is he really good enough to play for them?

I'd say not.

Offline Risso

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #276 on: March 11, 2011, 09:19:07 AM »
Supposedly Man Utd after him, but come on, is he really good enough to play for them?

I'd say not.

I'd back Ferguson to get the best out of him.

Offline Merv

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #277 on: March 11, 2011, 09:20:39 AM »
Me too. And when you look at Man United's squad, there are a lot of fairly ordinary players in there now.

He's leaving in the summer; just a case of to who and how much we can ratchet the price up.

Offline VillaZogmariner

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #278 on: March 11, 2011, 09:29:11 AM »
Supposedly Man Utd after him, but come on, is he really good enough to play for them?

I'd say not.

I'd back Ferguson to get the best out of him.

For a start he wouldn't have the sway he has at Villa with regards to set pieces.

Offline CJ

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #279 on: March 11, 2011, 09:35:18 AM »
I said after the Manc FA Cup surrender that it would be the final deciding factor for Ash to leave, and to be honest - although it would be annoying to yet again lose possibly our best player - I wouldn't begrudge him a move to Manure.  I was resentful of Barry and Milner going to Mancs because at the time we seemed to be pressing for a top four place ourselves, and their moves seemed money-driven.  But with us fighting a relegation battle, and with a manager who thinks our best 11 aren't good enough compete for the FA Cup, you couldn't blame him for wanting to move to a team where he'll win something and probably cement his England place - and Ferguson will get the best out of him in his best position on the wing, not 'in the hole'.

Offline WikiVilla

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #280 on: March 11, 2011, 09:49:52 AM »
For the 3rd summer in a row we will lose our most gifted player

Speaks volumes about where we sit in the pecking order

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #281 on: March 11, 2011, 09:55:40 AM »
Supposedly Man Utd after him, but come on, is he really good enough to play for them?

I'd say not.

I'd back Ferguson to get the best out of him.

For a start he wouldn't have the sway he has at Villa with regards to set pieces.

Indeed.  He really shouldn't ever be allowed to take a free kick again.

Offline badluckeric(gates)

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #282 on: March 11, 2011, 09:58:38 AM »
Ash is a ringer for Marlow in series 3 of 'The Wire'
And he was a contestent on the last series of professional masterchef!!

Offline Rigadon

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #283 on: March 11, 2011, 10:12:50 AM »
It's been nailed on obvious that he's off since he didn't sign the contract earlier this season.

Offline fbriai

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Re: Ashley Young - tell it how you see it
« Reply #284 on: March 11, 2011, 10:28:08 AM »
For the 3rd summer in a row we will lose our most gifted player

Speaks volumes about where we sit in the pecking order

That, for me, is the big problem. It's difficult to progress and build something worthwhile if you lose your best player every summer.

 


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