Ashley Young - tell it how you see it

[spangley1812]

Thirdly....... look at the league table how many points are Man Utd ahead

They played 4-5-1 yesterday.

That was one game out of 30+ this season

No it wasn't, they've played it regularly.

No they dont if they have played 4 5 1 how come Berbatov has played 29 games and Rooney has played 21 games this season   

[eastie]

Many people are throwing up various midfield options but in the remainder of the season I would like to have a look at a player I believe could become an absolute villa legend- Gary gardner.

[luke25]

Many people are throwing up various midfield options but in the remainder of the season I would like to have a look at a player I believe could become an absolute villa legend- Gary gardner.

As soon as were mathematically safe im hoping he gets a few games

[Chris Smith]

Thirdly....... look at the league table how many points are Man Utd ahead

They played 4-5-1 yesterday.

That was one game out of 30+ this season

No it wasn't, they've played it regularly.

No they dont if they have played 4 5 1 how come Berbatov has played 29 games and Rooney has played 21 games this season

Rooney has regularly played in a wider role, the same sort of job that Gabby does for us. As Monty says they play a much more fluid system than us, not the rigid 4-4-2 many on here are calling fir.

I don't get why people keep banging on about it. It's obvious we're not going to change so it's like a wasp keep flying into a window.

[mozza]

You could see yesterday that Ashley was really getting up Webb's nose,
whilst he was wearing the armband you could expect dialogue but our man
went beyond the line and it was a wonder he didn't receive a caution-

Maybe it was Young's theatrics during the 90 that influenced the decision
by the 'male' assistant not to award a penalty ?

For what it's worth IF he stays which I believe is doubtful, it should be as
an out an out winger and the management should instruct him to cut out
the diving and whinging because he would be a better player for it and
Aston Villa would benefit

[spangley1812]

Thirdly....... look at the league table how many points are Man Utd ahead

They played 4-5-1 yesterday.

That was one game out of 30+ this season

No it wasn't, they've played it regularly.

No they dont if they have played 4 5 1 how come Berbatov has played 29 games and Rooney has played 21 games this season

Rooney has regularly played in a wider role, the same sort of job that Gabby does for us. As Monty says they play a much more fluid system than us, not the rigid 4-4-2 many on here are calling fir.

I don't get why people keep banging on about it. It's obvious we're not going to change so it's like a wasp keep flying into a window.

If GED/Monty/You think its a good system I have no issue but I dont, I dont think we are playing our best attacking players Gabby, Downing/Ash/Marc in their best, most natural positions but thats just how I see it and since we have started playing 4 5 1/4 3  3 we have not put a run of results together .

[tarzansbrother]

Chris isn't just we got a shit manager who bluntly hasn't got a clue?

[Chris Smith]

Chris isn't just we got a shit manager who bluntly hasn't got a clue?

No.

Most of us accepted that this would be a season of transition. We're 8th in the current form table which suggests that we are improving. We'd all love it to be quicker but we are getting there.

[spangley1812]

Chris isn't just we got a shit manager who bluntly hasn't got a clue?

No.

Most of us accepted that this would be a season of transition. We're 8th in the current form table which suggests that we are improving. We'd all love it to be quicker but we are getting there.

Chris......... Do you think he needs a defensive coach ?? 

[TheSandman]

By the first few weeks of next season we will finally have a real idea what we will be under Houllier as he will have been able to fully stamp himself on our side. He has already began this but the job is not fully done.

[Chris Smith]

Spangley, I think we need to defend better at set pieces, without a doubt. Whether that means a specialist coach or those that we have doing their job better I'm not sure

[tarzansbrother]

I got an idea now thanks. I don't buy into this with his own players bullshit. People keep saying we/Ashley young are playing well and we ain't. Sunderland,fulham,Blackpool yielded us 2 points and young was a moaning Billy big bollox in all of them. We were also very very lucky to get a win against man c.

[Monty]

If GED/Monty/You think its a good system I have no issue but I dont, I dont think we are playing our best attacking players Gabby, Downing/Ash/Marc in their best, most natural positions but thats just how I see it and since we have started playing 4 5 1/4 3  3 we have not put a run of results together .

I don't necessarily think our current system is the best we could do. I always think 4-2-3-1 is a bit rigid sometimes, a little bit 'special teams' - i.e. saying "you attack, you defend" instead of the whole team working together. However, that more holistic approach takes time and a lot of intensive training, so I don't mind this at the moment. I don't think he's necessarily getting the best out of our players playing them in the roles he's given them, but I think he's essentially right.

[spangley1812]

If GED/Monty/You think its a good system I have no issue but I dont, I dont think we are playing our best attacking players Gabby, Downing/Ash/Marc in their best, most natural positions but thats just how I see it and since we have started playing 4 5 1/4 3  3 we have not put a run of results together .

I don't necessarily think our current system is the best we could do. I always think 4-2-3-1 is a bit rigid sometimes, a little bit 'special teams' - i.e. saying "you attack, you defend" instead of the whole team working together. However, that more holistic approach takes time and a lot of intensive training, so I don't mind this at the moment. I don't think he's necessarily getting the best out of our players playing them in the roles he's given them, but I think he's essentially right.

I was very impressed with what he did in the Jan window and as u say he will need time to "mould" things into what he wants.

[Monty]

If GED/Monty/You think its a good system I have no issue but I dont, I dont think we are playing our best attacking players Gabby, Downing/Ash/Marc in their best, most natural positions but thats just how I see it and since we have started playing 4 5 1/4 3  3 we have not put a run of results together .

I don't necessarily think our current system is the best we could do. I always think 4-2-3-1 is a bit rigid sometimes, a little bit 'special teams' - i.e. saying "you attack, you defend" instead of the whole team working together. However, that more holistic approach takes time and a lot of intensive training, so I don't mind this at the moment. I don't think he's necessarily getting the best out of our players playing them in the roles he's given them, but I think he's essentially right.

I was very impressed with what he did in the Jan window and as u say he will need time to "mould" things into what he wants.

Fully agreed. We've debated the thing about United's formation and so on, but what's beyond dispute is that their players have trained and played together for a long time now, and certain things about each others' games will now be second nature to them. Same goes for Barcelona, Arsenal, Chelsea when they clicked last season, our own great side under Saunders - it's all about time and training and building a team unit, and we should give this to Ged.