O'Neill Rejects west ham interest!

[Jimbo]

Fair enough, that's your opinion, but are we agreed that MON did more damage? And willfully so.

No. The timing of his departure was shitty, but no-one knows the exact circumstances, other than vague comments from both parties regarding a failure to agree on the future direction of the club. One can speculate of course, as many have on here but I know of no evidence to back up the theory that MON deliberately tried to damage the club.

And the signing of highly-paid, average-ability squad players who never got off the bench?

[Ross]

The timing of his departure was designed to damage us.  He saw the writing on the wall and wanted to make sure that Brand MON would be enhanced as a result.  Just look at how his fawning mates in the media have reacted: Villa are know shit because MON left.  We all now the reality, but it is quite a feat that he has pulled off.  He is a clever little man, I'll give him that.

[Nev]

Fair enough, that's your opinion, but are we agreed that MON did more damage? And willfully so.

No. The timing of his departure was shitty, but no-one knows the exact circumstances, other than vague comments from both parties regarding a failure to agree on the future direction of the club. One can speculate of course, as many have on here but I know of no evidence to back up the theory that MON deliberately tried to damage the club.

And the signing of highly-paid, average-ability squad players who never got off the bench?

So you really believe that he signed the likes of Beye and Sidwell in order to damage the club?

I fancy they were rather poor signings by the manager rather than a deliberate tactic to stitch us up.

[Nev]

The timing of his departure was designed to damage us.  He saw the writing on the wall and wanted to make sure that Brand MON would be enhanced as a result.  Just look at how his fawning mates in the media have reacted: Villa are know shit because MON left.  We all now the reality, but it is quite a feat that he has pulled off.  He is a clever little man, I'll give him that.

What damage would it have done his reputation to walk in May? I'll ask again, where is the evidence that the timing was deliberate? Your adding two and two and making five. Until the truth comes out, how about taking a more balanced view of the whole thing rather than creating a bogey man upon which to heap all your bitterness?

We are in the shit now because of rank bad management and players who don't want to fight for the club. The timing of MON's departure certainly made this season very difficult in terms of any sort of progress but relegation should not have been in the equation.

[damon loves JT]

Interesting, though, that he can't land a bigger job than West Ham. If he is as good as Hansen and Shearer say, why is he pissing about at the arse end of the table with Karen Brady?

We know the reason, of course. This way, he gets to be bigger than the club. But I don't think Sullivan will like being upstaged, whether things go well or badly.

[OzVilla]

Fair enough, that's your opinion, but are we agreed that MON did more damage? And willfully so.

No, not more damage than DOL and certainly not willfully so either.  Do you remeber Doncaster, not knowing when we last won the FA Cup, his belittling of our Club or his lecherous advances to waitresses.  He damaged our Club imo far more.  MON made some good signings, some poor signings, we enjoyed some great results and a run of derby games unequalled in our history I think, dragged us to finish in our most consistant finnishes for many a year, got European football back at Villa Park and took us to Wembley.

He left under a cloud at a terrible time which set the tone for the season but that record is hardly of someone whose set out to damage us.  Although MON has alot of questions to answer, I just don't see what you see obviously on this one.

[Jimbo]

Fair enough, that's your opinion, but are we agreed that MON did more damage? And willfully so.

No. The timing of his departure was shitty, but no-one knows the exact circumstances, other than vague comments from both parties regarding a failure to agree on the future direction of the club. One can speculate of course, as many have on here but I know of no evidence to back up the theory that MON deliberately tried to damage the club.

And the signing of highly-paid, average-ability squad players who never got off the bench?

So you really believe that he signed the likes of Beye and Sidwell in order to damage the club?

I fancy they were rather poor signings by the manager rather than a deliberate tactic to stitch us up.

I believe that, when it came to signings, he had lots of money to spend, but a very poor grasp of the market, especially overseas. Yes, he bought poorly, often, but was so pig-headed that he never learned from his mistakes and continued to splash Randy's cash.

I don't think he did this specifically to hurt the club, but he had so little regard for it that he squandered its money, refused to play the crap players he bought, refused to shift them on and demanded more money to buy new ones before flouncing out in a huff. Damaging to the club, and all his fault.   

[Nev]

Interesting, though, that he can't land a bigger job than West Ham. If he is as good as Hansen and Shearer say, why is he pissing about at the arse end of the table with Karen Brady?

We know the reason, of course. This way, he gets to be bigger than the club. But I don't think Sullivan will like being upstaged, whether things go well or badly.

He had the chance to prove himself above taking jobs at the arse end of the table, he gave that chance up in August.

[eastie]

I certainly do not agree that mon willfully  damaged our club- he gave the impression of loving his time here and understood our history and cared about Aston villa- for whatever reason he decided to walk away but we don't know the full story and what pushed him to make that decision.

[Jimbo]

I certainly do not agree that mon willfully  damaged our club- he gave the impression of loving his time here and understood our history and cared about Aston villa- for whatever reason he decided to walk away but we don't know the full story and what pushed him to make that decision.

You don't think then, that if he really cared about the club, he might have put it first and carried on regardless by putting the boardroom stuff behind him and getting the season underway?

[mikeb1982]

Right, who can we flog to West Ham then?

Reckon he'll be in for reo-coker....!

[D.boy]

The only interest I have in MON is that they stop the noses going to Wembley. Other than that what is in past is  in the past and we need to focus on the now.

[Chris Jameson]

I used to have a soft spot for West 'Am but should O'Neill take over and join their loathsome owners i'd dearl;y love to see them drop through the divisions before going into financial meltdown.

[eastie]

No jimbo, I think the time was right for a change and maybe he should have gone in may, something tipped him over the edge into walking out in august but I don't think it was pre planned and don't think he wilfully did it to hurt the club. Equally there would be no point him staying if either his heart was no longer in it or there was a breakdown between him and the board.

[hawkeye]

The facts would tend to sugest he left the club in a mess at the worst possible time, its pretty sad that tne MON fanatics still seem to put him above the club, just like he put his ego above the club