Go away Golloway

[Toronto Villa]

I don't agree with Holloway on a lot of things lately, but I do entirely on this one. This really is judgement against smaller clubs and it is totally unfair. If you have a 25 man squad rule, then any team should be able to the players they feel will suit them in any game.

[Merv]

Surely managers have to be allowed to pick within their 25 man squad to try and get results.

That line there should end any debate. It's ridiculous... why impose a 25-man squad limit if managers are then not able to select from that 25 without fear of being fined? They're all classed as first team players, I don't see the problem.

Holloway's p****d me off the last couple of weeks but I think this is very harsh.

[john e]

so all the posters who think a manager should be able to pick whatever team he likes from the 25,

will have no complaints if say Wigan/Wolves/Blackpool next season decide to target ONLY the games against fellow strugglers and play there top strongest side against them,

 and against ManUtd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man City they put out there kids and weakest 2nd and 3rd choice players in all positions when they play them home and away in every game they play against them.

vurtually handing the points over before they even start, ie throwing the game.

would make it very difficult to get into the top 6 if they were vurtually guaranteed a load of points before the season even starts.

dont think it couldnt happen, managers have absolutley no scruples, and will only ever think of there own skin and not the longterm good of football

[German James]

The rule is vague at best and unfair in practice. Also, it was 2-2 until the last minutes when we played Blackpool. Would this have come up had they held on for a point? I doubt it. And the daft little troll would be hailing himself as a tactical genius.

[MoetVillan]

its a muddy waters issue.  Look at the result Wolves got against Chelsea.  Or Blackpool against Liverpool (both times)  Even Blackpools second eleven were a pretty good outfit, coupled with them playing their hearts out in a drive to get picked.  I dont think the manager buys anyone to fill up the 25 positions, they have to justify the purchase and wages.  So on that, it should be down to them who they pick to play.  Who is the FA to say what the best or poorest player for each position is, or for that matter decide against the managers tactics (he may wish to play second choice defender in a certain game as said player may suit the opposition).  Who polices the police?  On the other hand, Golloway raised concerns by swapping all of the players in one go.  A better rotation system (ie opoosite to MON's) would have meant that no-one noticed.  Only himself to blame.  I wonder if he has to pay the fine out of his cut of Charlie Adams sale.  Which smacks a bit of insider trading

[Chris Smith]

Does he get a cut of the fine?

[Ian.]

so all the posters who think a manager should be able to pick whatever team he likes from the 25,

will have no complaints if say Wigan/Wolves/Blackpool next season decide to target ONLY the games against fellow strugglers and play there top strongest side against them,

 and against ManUtd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man City they put out there kids and weakest 2nd and 3rd choice players in all positions when they play them home and away in every game they play against them.

vurtually handing the points over before they even start, ie throwing the game.

would make it very difficult to get into the top 6 if they were vurtually guaranteed a load of points before the season even starts.

dont think it couldnt happen, managers have absolutley no scruples, and will only ever think of there own skin and not the longterm good of football

It wont happen, the fans will stop going surely.
Once in a while it happens and that angers the fans, ie us last season. I know Wolves fans who were pissed off with it last year. If it happens regularly the fans will not be turning up, gates go down and in the long run that is no good for any club.

[john e]

so all the posters who think a manager should be able to pick whatever team he likes from the 25,

will have no complaints if say Wigan/Wolves/Blackpool next season decide to target ONLY the games against fellow strugglers and play there top strongest side against them,

 and against ManUtd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man City they put out there kids and weakest 2nd and 3rd choice players in all positions when they play them home and away in every game they play against them.

vurtually handing the points over before they even start, ie throwing the game.

would make it very difficult to get into the top 6 if they were vurtually guaranteed a load of points before the season even starts.

dont think it couldnt happen, managers have absolutley no scruples, and will only ever think of there own skin and not the longterm good of football

It wont happen, the fans will stop going surely.
Once in a while it happens and that angers the fans, ie us last season. I know Wolves fans who were pissed off with it last year. If it happens regularly the fans will not be turning up, gates go down and in the long run that is no good for any club.

that'l be a first then, clubs thinking about the fans,

i'm not saying its about to happen,
but when you have clubs playing weakened sides against top clubs so they can put out stronger teams against there peers at the bottom, we are on a slippery slope,

if it becomes more and more acceptable other than the as you say 'one off' game, then footballs on its way down the toilet

[Ian.]

I hope it does not happen, surely though clubs can not afford half (or even less that that) full stadiums for a large percentage of fixtures.

Your quite if this does happen it will be going further down the pan than it already is.

[Merv]

Would we be fined for fielding this team? We're at home to Wigan and have a midweek trip to the Emirates three days later...

                 Guzan

Walker  Cuellar Clark Baker

Albrighton NRC Bannan Downing

           Delfouneso Gabby


We've picked our No.2 keeper, left both our first choice CBs on the bench, played our reserve LB, left our two strongest central midfielders out of the starting line-up, left out our leading two front players, along with Emile Heskey.

[peter w]

No, because its still a mostly first-team team.

[Villa'Zawg]

EXCLUSIVE: Holloway WILL resign over fine


By Steve Canavan
Published on Fri Jan 28 11:42:47 GMT 2011

KARL Oyston has vowed to “fight to the death” to keep Ian Holloway at Blackpool when the manager offers his resignation.

Holloway repeatedly threatened to quit if the club was punished because of his 10 team changes for the 3-2 defeat at Aston Villa in November – and yesterday the Premier League hit Pool with a £25,000 fine.

Holloway remained true to his word, telling The Gazette late on Thursday night: “He (the chairman) will be getting my resignation because that is how strongly I feel. It is up to him whether he chooses to take it.

“I don’t know who I am working for. I have done the best job I could for this club and have tried to win every single game, including the game at Aston Villa.”

But Oyston made his position perfectly clear. “I absolutely would not accept his resignation and I would fight to the death to keep him in his post,” said the chairman. “He has done fantastically well and deserves to manage at this level for ever.

“It would be absolutely ridiculous if Ian felt compelled to resign because of what is an unjust decision and he shouldn’t compound that by stopping doing what he is doing so well.”


Blackpool Gazette - Clicky

[cheltenhamlion]

Its just as well this doesn't apply to European games or we would owe a fortune.

[Merv]

Although if Wigan beat that team, getting three points and thereby condemning West Ham to relegation instead, would the Hammers have reason to complain by citing the fact we left out Friedel, Luke Young, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Petrov, Makoun, Ashley Young, Darren Bent, Emile Heskey?

I agree, that team of ours is still relatively first team and all we've done is use our squad to the full. As Blackpool did. It's just that our overall squad is stronger than Blackpool's.... but effectively we've still fielded an understrength team there. It could be argued.

It's a really difficult thing to judge, unless you play your youth team. A lot of grey areas involved, I think.

[peter w]

Its just as well this doesn't apply to European games or we would owe a fortune.

Not so, because the money made from making the groups stages offsets the...oh.