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Author Topic: Would YOU have MON back ??  (Read 38091 times)

Offline CheeriOneill

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2011, 02:40:23 PM »
Yes and hopefully Lerner would give him a nice big spending purse!

I hope he snaps up the lad Harewood, that new Wolves player you know the Ginger one, that Shorey bloke at WBA, we should get all them for about Ł5M each plus say 40k/wk wages and maybe he can extend the contracts of Salifou, Osbourne, Beye, Warnock, Heskey and Carew if we are lucky!

Perhaps raise more cash lets sell off the some fringe players like Bannan, Albrighton and Clark!


Offline Simba

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2011, 02:41:40 PM »
To summarise, do you want the manager who took us to Wembly twice and 3 6th places back or carry on in the relegation zone....hmmmmm?
The only people who are not wanting him back on here are those who slated him last season and demanded he went. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW???

Bit sweeping that and not true. I supported him and the results. And of course like everyone else I would take our position last year over this :(    I didn't actually find our football to be as bad as we make out either.

Whatever the truth, known only to the inner sanctum, he used his self proclaimed power to arm wrestle the Club.
He didn't buy wisely, utilised the same team until exhausted by March, took four others in the club with him, bought expensively and mostly unwisely and wouldn't give our excellent kids a chance. That's apart from the salaries he negotiated to a level that is unsustainable as a percentage of the Clubs revenue. And he didn't use a large number of those players anyway. He wasn't going any further. But not knowing some of this I supported him.

Take him back and he would be all powerful. Not good for us.

There are better managers/coaches out there anyway. Just not Houllier.

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2011, 02:44:40 PM »
He walked out on us. He did a lot of good things, much of which I supported. I have no issue defending that position. But he began to lose focus a little in my opinion in the last 6-9 months. The summer was a non event, and then he walked out on us. No man is bigger than Aston Villa, and no, we should never go back.

Offline eastie

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2011, 02:44:55 PM »
I'm very happy o neill went thanks lovejoy!
What I'm not happy about was that we did not replace him with a better manager than houllier - but as for wanting o neill back- no way!

Offline TaxDodger

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2011, 02:46:35 PM »
I would. Not even the smallest chance of it happening though.

Offline supertom

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2011, 03:00:43 PM »
Yes. For survival and for pushing us back up to the top 8 next season. He gets that bit extra out of average players, and turned a few half decent players into top quality performers. I don't think Gabby will ever be the same player he was under Martin O Neill. Just don't.

Okay, O Neill is a cock, and tactically clueless, but he motivates. For all the moaning we did about him last season and for being also-rans again, what he did in getting our squad to 6th, 3 years running, and not far shy of top 4 in two seasons, was excellent. Granted he wasted a fair wedge of cash, but made some excellent buys, got some cohesion with the british contingent, and made us a dangerous side to play. Tough to beat, and effective on the counter. We had no plan B granted, but plan A worked well enough to get us a top 6 spot.

If he was still here, we'd still be up there. And arguably, had he been allowed to spend the Milner money as he saw fit, or indeed hold on to Milner a bit longer, I think with the league as is, we could be right up there at the moment.

For me it's a case of not knowing what I had until it's gone. People may say O Neill is overrated, but the vast, vast difference in how his squad is performing under two different managers says it all. Houllier has some excuses, but he's had enough time that they don't wash anymore. We've a full squad pretty much to choose from now too. For me, we overachieved under O Neill. Getting our highest points total in 15 odd years, last season was an excellent achievement, after the loss of Barry.

Much as I now dislike the bloke. Who is out there who can do better who'd come here? It's sad, but I think our best chance of success in years left with O Neill, and I think he'd peaked anyway and left at the right time for his footballing reputation.

Like Houllier said when he arrived, we're an 8th-12th team. That annoyed people, but that's what we're looking at for a few years IMO. And that's only if Gerard sorts himself out, we sack him, or get someone better in for next season. Survival will do right about now though.

Offline Ger Regan

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2011, 03:42:27 PM »
To summarise, do you want the manager who took us to Wembly twice and 3 6th places back or carry on in the relegation zone....hmmmmm?
The only people who are not wanting him back on here are those who slated him last season and demanded he went. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW???

I think most of them didn't actually go to the matches anyhow... :-X
And what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Offline TonyD

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2011, 03:44:54 PM »
Rather feed my children to a pack of wolves.

Offline Arsey

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2011, 03:52:40 PM »
yes, but only because I think a potato would be doing a better job at the moment.  Take him back, let him get us safe and then sack him.

Offline peter w

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #69 on: January 06, 2011, 03:55:10 PM »
No. No, as in fuck-off O'Neill you fucking wanker.

Offline sfx412

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #70 on: January 06, 2011, 04:21:21 PM »
Yes, everyone that wanted him out are looking pretty stupid now.


You reckon?

Offline Witton Warrior

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2011, 04:52:51 PM »
Not under any circumstances and if the alternative was relegation, so be it.
I will never forgive him for what he did.

Interesting, did you forgive Ron Saunders?

I know what you mean but compare their actual achievements...

'nuf said

Offline MoetVillan

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2011, 05:23:36 PM »
I was a fully signed up "happy clapper" MON fan.  I did have some issues with who we bought, but more so in what we paid them, but the table doesnt lie, and there seemed a good working plan going forward.  Three top six finishes, and wembley twice in a season was great.  I liked his enthusiasm, it was infectious.  But regardless of what happened between the great and the good, you dont leave days before a season.  That seems the hangover for me, followed by a string of injuries.  It still feels like the season hasnt started yet for our team.  If you took him back, whats to stop him doing the same thing next season or the one after that?  My trust is not there, so I would regrettfully, not have him back

Offline Simba

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2011, 05:31:33 PM »
To the Champagne man. Moet -well put.

Offline Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: Would YOU have MON back ??
« Reply #74 on: January 06, 2011, 05:31:59 PM »
Not under any circumstances and if the alternative was relegation, so be it.
I will never forgive him for what he did.

Interesting, did you forgive Ron Saunders?

I know what you mean but compare their actual achievements...
One was a legend, the other a legend in his own mind.

 


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