Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread

[ChrissyPrice]

Everyone just calm down a bit.  Everyone is angry and directs it at houllier but sacking him isnt the way forward. If this lot wont play for him, ged needs to get rid and replace them. It looks like im a lone voice but im keeping the faith...

 I agree Matt. You are not alone in the wilderness.

I wish I still shared your confidence but it is getting pretty desperate.

[mr woo]

Everyone just calm down a bit.  Everyone is angry and directs it at houllier but sacking him isnt the way forward. If this lot wont play for him, ged needs to get rid and replace them. It looks like im a lone voice but im keeping the faith...

Not sure you are a lone voice mate.

Most people would realise its a very, very dangerous time to be sacking a manager. Randy has a hell of a decision to make.

If we have decent striker lined up, ready to sign,  for example - what would you do? See it through and hope for the best?

IF we sacked him now, it'll take 3 weeks at least to invite applications, conduct interviews and come to a decision. In other words, another transfer window passes us by.....

[Fuse]

The manager is getting the flack - and rightly so, in regard to tactics and substitutions (or lack of)

BUT

the players deserve alot of critcism too .

Absolutely spot on. I could not agree more.

These gutless tossers are getting away with it because the fans are so preoccupied with the manager. He doesn;t go out onto the pitch and he cannot do anything if an overpaid wanker doesn;t want to put a shift in. In fact he has so man of them who are of this mindset that this is the problem for us.

Get some new fresh faces in now and clear these wankers out in the summer

Cuellar - woeful distribution

Petrov - anonymous

Reo Coker - limited

Downing - hid all game - wouldnt take players on 'one on one' but tried to when he had 3 round him

Gabby - dreadful - again. Wasted on the wing , no better centrally

Ash - all over the place( I expected him to take the goal kicks towards the end, he had every other dead ball)

The players need to take their share of the blame too. I am officially concerned. 

[achilles]

Everyone just calm down a bit.  Everyone is angry and directs it at houllier but sacking him isnt the way forward. If this lot wont play for him, ged needs to get rid and replace them. It looks like im a lone voice but im keeping the faith...

You obviously didn't go there tonight to watch that absolute utter crap!

[saunders_heroes]

Dreadful dreadful performance. That was the final straw for me. Lerner has to sack the fool in charge and put Martin Jol in place.

[Tony]

I hope GH falls on his sword, he has been the worst appointment since Billy Mc Neill.

I had a great away day at Anfield under McNeill, we drew 3-3, it all looked positive and as if improvement after the disaster of Graham Turner was on .... it didn't end well!

After seeing the Chelsea game and tonight's farce, it's got an eerily similar feel about it.

[picicata]

Everyone just calm down a bit.  Everyone is angry and directs it at houllier but sacking him isnt the way forward. If this lot wont play for him, ged needs to get rid and replace them. It looks like im a lone voice but im keeping the faith...

 I agree Matt. You are not alone in the wilderness.

But he really has been an unmitigated disaster. In fact it would have been difficult for a manager to have been this bad if he had actually been trying to be completely useless and was on a pay off from SHA.

GH has done absolutely nothing to suggest he is capable of turning this round.

[Lobsterboy]

We have been in a relegation battle for weeks; sadly what is looking increasingly likely is that we will be relegated - well done Gerard  Houllier.

Absolutely clueless tonight after the great performance at Chelski

Still we have all those marquee signings to look forward to this January... Huddersfields keeper and a Spurs reserve on loan :0(

[andyh]

New players is NOT the answer.
Think about it, any foreigners will need time to adapt to our game, and time is one thing we dont have... AND there are no guarantees anyone would actually turn things round for us.
British based players will be overpriced,cossetted and looking for a payday.
And ultimately, who, ANY GOOD, wants to sign for a club in the bottom 3.
No, the squad we have can get us up to at least 17/16/15...get a manager in who can motivate the current pricks to do what is needed. 

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Everyone just calm down a bit.  Everyone is angry and directs it at houllier but sacking him isnt the way forward. If this lot wont play for him, ged needs to get rid and replace them. It looks like im a lone voice but im keeping the faith...

It wasn't down to lack of effort that we lost tonight, it was down the absolute shite tactics adopted by the manager, shite tactics that took him 86 minutes to change.

[Irish villain]

Being Martin O'Neill FC was preferable to being relegation candidates FC! And I say this as a constant crtitique of him.

[SoccerHQ]

We will rise again.

If we can survive not getting relegated in O'dreary and Ellis's final season, we can do so again and challenge at the right end next season.

Utter garbage from Houllier though, it's a HOME game, play Gabby through the bleeding middle especially as all he was used for was to nulify Phil fcuking Bardsley's attacks on the right.

And btw you know things are bad when a mediocre former loan player slots in effortesley from 25 yards out.

Heskey actually held the ball up really well but no excuse for costing us the game twice, by missing from two yards and not getting sent off. We need a new striker a.s.a.p.

And after playing our hearts out on Sunday, why did he leave it so long to get on Albrighton and Bannan?!

When you go down to 10 men it usually makes sense to bring on fresh legs and a bit of pace to relieve the pressure a bit but no all we got was 5 minutes of constant Sunderland pressure until they scored. The football was garbage aswell, even more long ball than under the previous manager!!

I think he'll be sacked if we don't win at SHA as we certainly won't be beating Man. City the week after.

[tarzansbrother]

Only Heskey played for the french twat tonight. The players basically said fuck you Houllier in the second half. Did I actually see Ashley Young as centre half and Richard Dunne as striker towards the end, fukin hilarious. I will be very interested to see what Dave Woodhall will say after his mantra of 3 points and were motoring posted a few days ago. Houllier is a clown and i wouldnt give him my daughters pocket money to spend in the window. Short term i would give Sam allardyce a go, we can look no further.

[Rigadon]

Sorry to say, but we have no option but to get rid now.  Whether you like the manager or not he's got to go.

[Tony]

As for the game, when the half time whistle went someone behind me said "Thank fuck for that", both teams were poor, our best player was Heskey, who had missed an absolute sitter, I have to do an Arsene Wenger about what happened with the red card, I saw a lot of handbags and posturing but nothing that looked red card worthy, but something happened.

Gabby on the wing might work in away games, but it doesn't work at home. Downing on the right wasn't working, has he been told not to be too adventurous. They targetted Ciaran Clark all night and we didn't do anything to change it, 87 minutes and Houllier makes a sub, 87 fecking minutes.

Two quality moments, their goal, which was struck very sweetly and Barry Bannan's pass just after he came on, besides that it was an awful game.