Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread

[villaledge]

Everyone just calm down a bit.  Everyone is angry and directs it at houllier but sacking him isnt the way forward. If this lot wont play for him, ged needs to get rid and replace them. It looks like im a lone voice but im keeping the faith...

 I agree Matt. You are not alone in the wilderness.

i also agree

[TonyD]

Everyone just calm down a bit.  Everyone is angry and directs it at houllier but sacking him isnt the way forward. If this lot wont play for him, ged needs to get rid and replace them. It looks like im a lone voice but im keeping the faith...

 I agree Matt. You are not alone in the wilderness.

i also agree

blind leading the blind.

[PONGO49]

im going to sit back and try to enjoy watching the villa on line this season cos i wont be able to get many championship games on

[PONGO49]

Everyone just calm down a bit.  Everyone is angry and directs it at houllier but sacking him isnt the way forward. If this lot wont play for him, ged needs to get rid and replace them. It looks like im a lone voice but im keeping the faith...

 I agree Matt. You are not alone in the wilderness.

i also agree

blind leading the blind.

i also agree

[D.boy]

This season will be about survival. Avoid relegation then have a major, and I mean MAJOR overhaul in the summer.

[Fin Feds Dad]

The manager is getting the flack - and rightly so, in regard to tactics and substitutions (or lack of)

BUT

the players deserve alot of critcism too .

Cuellar - woeful distribution

Petrov - anonymous

Reo Coker - limited

Downing - hid all game - wouldnt take players on 'one on one' but tried to when he had 3 round him

Gabby - dreadful - again. Wasted on the wing , no better centrally

Ash - all over the place( I expected him to take the goal kicks towards the end, he had every other dead ball)

The players need to take their share of the blame too. I am officially concerned. 

[mattjpa]

Everyone just calm down a bit.  Everyone is angry and directs it at houllier but sacking him isnt the way forward. If this lot wont play for him, ged needs to get rid and replace them. It looks like im a lone voice but im keeping the faith...

With respect, you're mental.  If there were signs of him getting it right, you'd have a point, but we're sinking like a stone.  He's been an unmitigated disaster since Randy appointed him.

For 85mins we were beating chelsea. For 85mins we were beating united. If (I know its a big if) we had held those results we would be up around mid table now and looking forward to a good jan transfer window and the team pushing on.
emotions are high at the moment but margins are very fine in this league, were just a bit down on luck...

[luke25]

For four years we we're effectively Martin O'Neill FC. Everything seemed to be geared towards finding and developing players that suited the Martin O'Neill philosophy of football. It didn't work terribly well when we was in charge and now that he is gone it is a total disaster. It's going to take a total overhaul of the team to put this right.

One of the most depressing aspects of this whole scenario is that, far from diminishing O'Neill's reputation, it will make him even more of a legend in the eyes of the media. The Clough-protoge who took 'little' Aston Villa within ear shot of the Champions League...

The best post of the last 6 months

[Fuse]

Utter garbage tonight and as others have said half a dozen were a disgrace to their profession tonight as they didn;t put a shift n.

We can't sack the amanager as it has been proven not to work. We need to give him £20m now to get 3 or 4 players in within the window and clear the shite out in the summer.

If we don't then with this bunch of gutless tossers, we will go down.

Keep Houlier and give him some cash now!

[Richard C]

I hope GH falls on his sword, he has been the worst appointment since Billy Mc Neill.

[CorkVilla]

For four years we we're effectively Martin O'Neill FC. Everything seemed to be geared towards finding and developing players that suited the Martin O'Neill philosophy of football. It didn't work terribly well when we was in charge and now that he is gone it is a total disaster. It's going to take a total overhaul of the team to put this right.

Yeah, because three consecutive top 6 finishes and a LC Final appearance and FAC semi-final in his last season was an unmitigated failure, wasn't it?

Sorry what I meant was that considering the monetary outlay and considering that it was all about the result with O'Neill, attractive football was not on the agenda, 6th place was the least you could have hoped for. At least there was stability and the prospect of progress. Lerner should never have let him go. If he was going to give him that amount of money to blow in the first place and such control over every aspect of the club then he should have made damn well sure he was staying for the long haul.

[ozzjim]

Whatever happens Randy needs to be bold, either back GH with big cash or get rid off him asap and make an appointment within the week, however I'm not sure that the board have the knowledge to make the right appointment in such a short amount of time.

Sensible comment.


Clearly the squad he has he cannot get playing at all.


He needs a new heartbeat to the side, 2 central midfielders of quality, and 2 strikers that have movement and skill. Young needs to be a left winger, or be sold.

Downing has to stay left. Albrighton needs to be back in on the right.

Tonight, Heskey fair play son, you cared more than the rest put together, and I hope you come back into the team and do well after the ban. Sunderland should be ashamed of their play acting and their actions in getting you sent off.


The rest of the side - Cuellar at home showed all the old weaknesses, the midfield was pedestrian and clueless, Gabby up top with Heskey made a difference - not a chnace, he looked completely uninterested from the start. Young is rubbish behind the striker too. We miss Milner so badly. He was the golden thread that tied us together, the bag is split open now and the shit is falling out.

[pauliewalnuts]

That was utterly inept from start to finish.

[RossLeach]

we can't even blame Doug.....

[JJ-AV]

The players wont play for him, and while it's their fault we're in this we need them to get us out of it, weather we like it or not.

Get KMac and revert to the tactics they know. Play hoofball/on the counter and stay up and they clear the wankers out in the Summer.