Quote from: irreverent ad on December 28, 2010, 08:17:49 PMQuote from: Karl Bridges on December 28, 2010, 08:13:34 PMJust got back. They were much better technically. Our players are not good enough although I was in the players lounge after the game and the vibe from our players was not good. Bannan was straight into the lobby looking glum. Petrov had a face like thunder and was on his own away from the rest of them. We need a big clearout because the players we have just cannot play possession football. City had a team full of players that can take the ball in tight situations, our players seem to panic and lump it. Karl would you say the players were unhappy because of the result? I.e. did it seem like they cared or did they come out happy and not bothered?They definitely looked pissed off because of the result, there was no laughing and joking. There was just a weird vibe amongst the players.
Quote from: Karl Bridges on December 28, 2010, 08:13:34 PMJust got back. They were much better technically. Our players are not good enough although I was in the players lounge after the game and the vibe from our players was not good. Bannan was straight into the lobby looking glum. Petrov had a face like thunder and was on his own away from the rest of them. We need a big clearout because the players we have just cannot play possession football. City had a team full of players that can take the ball in tight situations, our players seem to panic and lump it. Karl would you say the players were unhappy because of the result? I.e. did it seem like they cared or did they come out happy and not bothered?
Just got back. They were much better technically. Our players are not good enough although I was in the players lounge after the game and the vibe from our players was not good. Bannan was straight into the lobby looking glum. Petrov had a face like thunder and was on his own away from the rest of them. We need a big clearout because the players we have just cannot play possession football. City had a team full of players that can take the ball in tight situations, our players seem to panic and lump it.
Imagine the reaction to this situation if Ellis was still in charge!There would be Ellis out march along Trinity Road, banners all around the ground and the Hereos and Villians would be filled with all the bile and anger it could carry.However as Randy et al are still sort of basking in the last few years sunlight we have no real focus for our anger.Randy appointed Mr Frenchscouse [and it has been a disaster] his managerial record would have got any manager the sack.Randy needs to face up to the fact that it was a crap appointment and get rid. We need a battler at themoment, someone who can give the team some motivation and get them out of this relegation fight.If we don't we are highly likely to repeat 1986/87WE ARE NOT TO BIG TO GO DOWNJust my thoughts100% agree i,m just so dissapointed this morming my mood hasnt lifted at all
Amongst all the hysteria, hand wringing and gnashing of teeth, here is an alternative view.Since GH joined us we have experienced what many have said is the worst injury situation in the club's history. Because we have also had some senior players who for reasons best known to themselves "can't be arsed" (Dunne, Carew, Ireland....) we have been forced to field players who have been largely untried reserves most of whom have come up through the youth system and in all fairness have performed brilliantly. But it is a big step up to the Premier League and for all their youthful skill and endeavours they are not the finished article and right now lack the experience needed to be sufficiently successful at this level. I'm sure that many of the current crop of youngsters will, in time, progress to great things, but in the meantime, games have been lost, points dropped and the fabled bottom three has come into sight.The injury situation has at last now eased, with the return of players such as Petrov and Delph, but players who have been sidelined through long term injuries take time to recover their form. It takes games. There is no alternative. What has resulted from these circumstances is a loss of belief in themselves that was so evident yesterday. A soft penalty and it's "Oh no here we go again." and a ball cleared off the line given as a goal without even a token protest. Clearly, what is needed now is to rebuild the team's confidence. These are not bad players and neither is the manager a bad manager. It's a tough thing to do, but right now they desperately need all the support they can get. Isn't that what supporters are for?
Quote from: E I Adio on December 29, 2010, 10:09:56 AMAmongst all the hysteria, hand wringing and gnashing of teeth, here is an alternative view.Since GH joined us we have experienced what many have said is the worst injury situation in the club's history. Because we have also had some senior players who for reasons best known to themselves "can't be arsed" (Dunne, Carew, Ireland....) we have been forced to field players who have been largely untried reserves most of whom have come up through the youth system and in all fairness have performed brilliantly. But it is a big step up to the Premier League and for all their youthful skill and endeavours they are not the finished article and right now lack the experience needed to be sufficiently successful at this level. I'm sure that many of the current crop of youngsters will, in time, progress to great things, but in the meantime, games have been lost, points dropped and the fabled bottom three has come into sight.The injury situation has at last now eased, with the return of players such as Petrov and Delph, but players who have been sidelined through long term injuries take time to recover their form. It takes games. There is no alternative. What has resulted from these circumstances is a loss of belief in themselves that was so evident yesterday. A soft penalty and it's "Oh no here we go again." and a ball cleared off the line given as a goal without even a token protest. Clearly, what is needed now is to rebuild the team's confidence. These are not bad players and neither is the manager a bad manager. It's a tough thing to do, but right now they desperately need all the support they can get. Isn't that what supporters are for?I think you are missing the point with the fans anger. Why should we support that? We've turned up and just rolled over and died, again. We have injuries etc but that's no excuse for not trying.Surely Houllier should be able to motivate these so called 'reserve' players even more and tell them to take their chance, no? Watch his interview after the Man City game, is that bloke going to inspire anyone? Does he really want to be here?