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Author Topic: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread  (Read 85828 times)

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #330 on: December 29, 2010, 04:50:09 AM »
Hard to know how to react to a considerate City fan, the condescending *&%$!

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #331 on: December 29, 2010, 04:51:58 AM »
Just got back. They were much better technically. Our players are not good enough although I was in the players lounge after the game and the vibe from our players was not good. Bannan was straight into the lobby looking glum. Petrov had a face like thunder and was on his own away from the rest of them. We need a big clearout because the players we have just cannot play possession football. City had a team full of players that can take the ball in tight situations, our players seem to panic and lump it.

Karl would you say the players were unhappy because of the result? I.e. did it seem like they cared or did they come out happy and not bothered?

They definitely looked pissed off because of the result, there was no laughing and joking. There was just a weird vibe amongst the players.

Wouldn't you have been pissed-off if they had all been laughing and joking? Maybe a bout of self-reflection will make them wake up a bit.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #332 on: December 29, 2010, 09:07:14 AM »
Imagine the reaction to this situation if Ellis was still in charge!

There would be Ellis out march along Trinity Road, banners all around the ground and the Hereos and Villians would be filled with all the bile and anger it could carry.

However as Randy et al are still sort of basking in the last few years sunlight we have no real focus for our anger.

Randy appointed Mr Frenchscouse [and it has been a disaster] his managerial record would have got any manager the sack.

Randy needs to face up to the fact that it was a crap appointment and get rid. We need a battler at themoment, someone who can give the team some motivation and get them out of this relegation fight.

If we don't we are highly likely to repeat 1986/87

WE ARE NOT TO BIG TO GO DOWN

Just my thoughts

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #333 on: December 29, 2010, 09:16:05 AM »
Imagine the reaction to this situation if Ellis was still in charge!

There would be Ellis out march along Trinity Road, banners all around the ground and the Hereos and Villians would be filled with all the bile and anger it could carry.

However as Randy et al are still sort of basking in the last few years sunlight we have no real focus for our anger.

Randy appointed Mr Frenchscouse [and it has been a disaster] his managerial record would have got any manager the sack.

Randy needs to face up to the fact that it was a crap appointment and get rid. We need a battler at themoment, someone who can give the team some motivation and get them out of this relegation fight.

If we don't we are highly likely to repeat 1986/87

WE ARE NOT TO BIG TO GO DOWN

Just my thoughts

100% agree i,m just so dissapointed this morming my mood hasnt lifted at all  :(

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #334 on: December 29, 2010, 10:09:56 AM »
Amongst all the hysteria, hand wringing and gnashing of teeth, here is an alternative view.

Since GH joined us we have experienced what many have said is the worst injury situation in the club's history. Because we have also had some senior players who for reasons best known to themselves "can't be arsed" (Dunne, Carew, Ireland....) we have been forced to field players who have been largely untried reserves most of whom have come up through the youth system and in all fairness have performed brilliantly. But it is a big step up to the Premier League and for all their youthful skill and endeavours they are not the finished article and right now lack the experience needed to be sufficiently successful at this level. I'm sure that many of the current crop of youngsters will, in time,  progress to great things, but in the meantime, games have been lost, points dropped and the fabled bottom three has come into sight.

The injury situation has at last now eased, with the return of players such as Petrov and Delph, but players who have been sidelined through long term injuries take time to recover their form. It takes games. There is no alternative.

What has resulted from these circumstances is a loss of belief in themselves that was so evident yesterday. A soft penalty and it's "Oh no here we go again." and a ball cleared off the line given as a goal without even a token protest. Clearly, what is needed now is to rebuild the team's confidence. These are not bad players and neither is the manager a bad manager. It's a tough thing to do, but right now they desperately need all the support they can get. Isn't that what supporters are for?

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #335 on: December 29, 2010, 10:16:57 AM »
I agree with E I, we've just got to tough it out at the moment - it will change

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #336 on: December 29, 2010, 10:21:15 AM »
Amongst all the hysteria, hand wringing and gnashing of teeth, here is an alternative view.

Since GH joined us we have experienced what many have said is the worst injury situation in the club's history. Because we have also had some senior players who for reasons best known to themselves "can't be arsed" (Dunne, Carew, Ireland....) we have been forced to field players who have been largely untried reserves most of whom have come up through the youth system and in all fairness have performed brilliantly. But it is a big step up to the Premier League and for all their youthful skill and endeavours they are not the finished article and right now lack the experience needed to be sufficiently successful at this level. I'm sure that many of the current crop of youngsters will, in time,  progress to great things, but in the meantime, games have been lost, points dropped and the fabled bottom three has come into sight.

The injury situation has at last now eased, with the return of players such as Petrov and Delph, but players who have been sidelined through long term injuries take time to recover their form. It takes games. There is no alternative.

What has resulted from these circumstances is a loss of belief in themselves that was so evident yesterday. A soft penalty and it's "Oh no here we go again." and a ball cleared off the line given as a goal without even a token protest. Clearly, what is needed now is to rebuild the team's confidence. These are not bad players and neither is the manager a bad manager. It's a tough thing to do, but right now they desperately need all the support they can get. Isn't that what supporters are for?

I think you are missing the point with the fans anger. Why should we support that? We've turned up and just rolled over and died, again. We have injuries etc but that's no excuse for not trying.
Surely Houllier should be able to motivate these so called 'reserve' players even more and tell them to take their chance, no? Watch his interview after the Man City game, is that bloke going to inspire anyone? Does he really want to be here?

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #337 on: December 29, 2010, 10:39:09 AM »
predictably depressing...

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #338 on: December 29, 2010, 10:41:21 AM »
Can someone in the know please explain to me what the craze to swap shirts is all about!!
  do they have so much disrespect for the Claret & Blue shirts that as soon as the final whistle blows they have to get rid??
   them shirts which any 1 of us would wear so proudly---should have been given to the travelling fans who once again gave great support whilst enduring yet another shocking display by our Boyz In Claret &Blue (ok black yesterday but you get my drift)
  i gues i am old fashioned but i findthis trend to get souvenirs from someone who has just thumped you quite appaling--i guess it just fuels the fire that they dont give a tinkers cuss about our feelings or the final score,

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #339 on: December 29, 2010, 11:02:42 AM »
Delph is a spiky little fucker isn't he, one of the few the defeat seemed to hurt. Nice little battle between him and Milner for the last few minutes.

I'd have been tempted to give him the armband, it might calm him down a bit. He's going to be some player, probably not for us though.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #340 on: December 29, 2010, 11:14:17 AM »
Amongst all the hysteria, hand wringing and gnashing of teeth, here is an alternative view.

Since GH joined us we have experienced what many have said is the worst injury situation in the club's history. Because we have also had some senior players who for reasons best known to themselves "can't be arsed" (Dunne, Carew, Ireland....) we have been forced to field players who have been largely untried reserves most of whom have come up through the youth system and in all fairness have performed brilliantly. But it is a big step up to the Premier League and for all their youthful skill and endeavours they are not the finished article and right now lack the experience needed to be sufficiently successful at this level. I'm sure that many of the current crop of youngsters will, in time,  progress to great things, but in the meantime, games have been lost, points dropped and the fabled bottom three has come into sight.

The injury situation has at last now eased, with the return of players such as Petrov and Delph, but players who have been sidelined through long term injuries take time to recover their form. It takes games. There is no alternative.

What has resulted from these circumstances is a loss of belief in themselves that was so evident yesterday. A soft penalty and it's "Oh no here we go again." and a ball cleared off the line given as a goal without even a token protest. Clearly, what is needed now is to rebuild the team's confidence. These are not bad players and neither is the manager a bad manager. It's a tough thing to do, but right now they desperately need all the support they can get. Isn't that what supporters are for?

I think you are missing the point with the fans anger. Why should we support that? We've turned up and just rolled over and died, again. We have injuries etc but that's no excuse for not trying.
Surely Houllier should be able to motivate these so called 'reserve' players even more and tell them to take their chance, no? Watch his interview after the Man City game, is that bloke going to inspire anyone? Does he really want to be here?

My point is that a very unusual set of circumstances, starting with MON's departure, has resulted in a very demoralised and demotivated team. I don't believe that crying "ain't it awful - sack the lot of 'em" is of any help, when that would clearly not improve the situation.

I thought that supporting a team was a way of encouraging and motivating the team to play better, achieve more, score more goals and win games. It's not always an easy ride, but if you're not a supporter, you're just a spectator.

Right now they need all the support they can get.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #341 on: December 29, 2010, 11:22:40 AM »
I still can't get over how bad we are, we just didn't compete anywhere on the pitch and they left Teves on the bench i was going to give Houllier time but now i'm not too sure. 

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #342 on: December 29, 2010, 12:47:57 PM »
Not one of our players ventured over the half way line at the final whistle
to acknowledge the travveling support,the vast majority of which had stayed
to the bitter end. Having said that if Warnock had come within reach I reckon
he would have been 'strung up' for his contribution to our demise (he wasn't
alone)

No doubt the players, and management overheard some of the 'gallows humour'
and stronger language thrown in the their direction - how they react will go along
way to determining the club's demise between now and May -

I'd like to believe it will give them the kick up the proverbial and prove to be positive
with players, management team and even Mr Lerner taking a long look in the mirror
and being able to say they are doing enough to reverse the slide downwards -

The possibility of relegation is real, unless all involved pull in the same direction it
will be a probability.

I've retained my Wigan ticket for the re-arranged match and will be starting off
on the annual road to Wembley at Bramall Lane full of optimism (but it's days like
yesterday that make you wonder if it's worth the heartache)           

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #343 on: December 29, 2010, 01:45:32 PM »
Here's a strange one - decided to take my 8 year old to his first away game today and just got some tickets for Chelsea on Sunday. Must be mad.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #344 on: December 29, 2010, 02:13:54 PM »
shit!!!!!!!!!

 


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