Where's O'Neill Now?

[WikiVilla]

Correct about his wife, but he could have left Celtic in a healthier fiscal position

[Villa'Zawg]

I don't give a shit what people say about O'Neill, or whether he really is a tosser or not.

I do care about the lack of understanding and perspective that causes people to think we should have done better.

How many times have teams outside the Sky 4 reached 60+ points in the last 10 years?

How much time and money have Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man City spent on building their squads compared to us?

How much do those teams spend on wages compared to us?

I hate the soap opera version of football where every manager and player is endowed with a fictional character, when in reality we know almost nothing about them. Who cares what they are like if they're getting the results?

Come on then, how many clubs spent more money than us while he was manager?

It's worth bearing in mind that most of those clubs had much stronger squads than ours at the start of that period and didn't need an entirely new squad as we did e.g. Man Utd with Ferdinand, Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo etc..

Man City and Spurs spent considerably more than we did.

I posted the Spurs figures on here some time ago, taken from their annual financial reports but I'm not aware of a easily accessible source of reliable info/data for PL transfer spending so don't know what the figures are for the Sky 4.

[maidstonevillain]

I fondly remember the good times BL gave me as a fan during his days in the claret and blue and as our manager. I appreciated but didn't like his decision to leave, but his personal circumstances didn't really leave him much choice. He's never reached the heights again.
Being a fan under Saunders managership was one of the best in my 54 years of supporting Villa. He put the pride back he allowed us to hold our heads high and while I understood why he left I always thought he'd made a huge mistake.
He never reached the same heights again.
Unlike the 2 above, Martin O'Neill joined a Villa club who thanks to Randy, had superb finacial backing and little if any boardroom interferance. He had an ideal environment, wasted a fortune on players and wages as he played the big man. Then unlike the others he achieved sweet fa, quit just before the season started leaving a club in crisis, one it has not yet recovered from.
The effects of his mismanagent could hit our club for some time yet, where ever he is I hope he keeps his low profile for a long time yet, but my gut says unlike Little and Saunders who remain revered ambassadors of Villa who have only kind words and memories of the club, that little shit has more aggro in line for the club to come.

As a fan of similar age (slightly younger I should say) and with similar memories, I agree almost word for word.

[Shrek]

I don't give a shit what people say about O'Neill, or whether he really is a tosser or not.

I do care about the lack of understanding and perspective that causes people to think we should have done better.

How many times have teams outside the Sky 4 reached 60+ points in the last 10 years?

How much time and money have Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man City spent on building their squads compared to us?

How much do those teams spend on wages compared to us?

I hate the soap opera version of football where every manager and player is endowed with a fictional character, when in reality we know almost nothing about them. Who cares what they are like if they're getting the results?

Come on then, how many clubs spent more money than us while he was manager?

It's worth bearing in mind that most of those clubs had much stronger squads than ours at the start of that period and didn't need an entirely new squad as we did e.g. Man Utd with Ferdinand, Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo etc..

Man City and Spurs spent considerably more than we did.

I posted the Spurs figures on here some time ago, taken from their annual financial reports but I'm not aware of a easily accessible source of reliable info/data for PL transfer spending so don't know what the figures are for the Sky 4.

If our squad was so poor, why did he spent millions on players he never used? Why did he stifle our youth academy?

He bought mainly shit players on high wages and never gave youth a chance.

Face it, he was shit and should have achieved alot more with the resources he had available.

[Dave]

...and we're back in the feedback loop.

[ez]

Perhaps its not gone unnoticed by chairmen that ONeil walks out on clubs.

Tends to happen with managers that no Chairman is daft enough to sack.

And i don't believe Randy wanted him out either although most people i speak to are under the impression ONeil was forced out.

[dave.woodhall]

I don't give a shit what people say about O'Neill, or whether he really is a tosser or not.

I do care about the lack of understanding and perspective that causes people to think we should have done better.

How many times have teams outside the Sky 4 reached 60+ points in the last 10 years?

How much time and money have Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man City spent on building their squads compared to us?

How much do those teams spend on wages compared to us?

I hate the soap opera version of football where every manager and player is endowed with a fictional character, when in reality we know almost nothing about them. Who cares what they are like if they're getting the results?

Come on then, how many clubs spent more money than us while he was manager?

It's worth bearing in mind that most of those clubs had much stronger squads than ours at the start of that period and didn't need an entirely new squad as we did e.g. Man Utd with Ferdinand, Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo etc..

Man City and Spurs spent considerably more than we did.

I posted the Spurs figures on here some time ago, taken from their annual financial reports but I'm not aware of a easily accessible source of reliable info/data for PL transfer spending so don't know what the figures are for the Sky 4.

Strange how you always seem so sure of your figures when they suit you.

[Villa'Zawg]

I don't give a shit what people say about O'Neill, or whether he really is a tosser or not.

I do care about the lack of understanding and perspective that causes people to think we should have done better.

How many times have teams outside the Sky 4 reached 60+ points in the last 10 years?

How much time and money have Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Man City spent on building their squads compared to us?

How much do those teams spend on wages compared to us?

I hate the soap opera version of football where every manager and player is endowed with a fictional character, when in reality we know almost nothing about them. Who cares what they are like if they're getting the results?

Come on then, how many clubs spent more money than us while he was manager?

It's worth bearing in mind that most of those clubs had much stronger squads than ours at the start of that period and didn't need an entirely new squad as we did e.g. Man Utd with Ferdinand, Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo etc..

Man City and Spurs spent considerably more than we did.

I posted the Spurs figures on here some time ago, taken from their annual financial reports but I'm not aware of a easily accessible source of reliable info/data for PL transfer spending so don't know what the figures are for the Sky 4.

Strange how you always seem so sure of your figures when they suit you.

I don't think it is strange that I back up my opinion with facts, I think it strange when people hold a firm opinion that is at odds with the facts.

And it isn't a question of what suits, it is a question of what authoritative and comparable data is available. Feel free to let me know where we can get comprehensive data on transfer spending.

[Shrek]

facts and figures are irrelivent if you are going to buy THREE full backs for over 10 million on an absolute fortune a week and never play any of them.

[dave.woodhall]

I don't think it is strange that I back up my opinion with facts, I think it strange when people hold a firm opinion that is at odds with the facts.

And it isn't a question of what suits, it is a question of what authoritative and comparable data is available. Feel free to let me know where we can get comprehensive data on transfer spending.

You say other clubs spent more than us then say you can't prove it. That, by your own admission, is a fact.

[not3bad]

And i don't believe Randy wanted him out either although most people i speak to are under the impression ONeil was forced out.

That must be the impression O Neil is under otherwise why the tribunal?

[cdbearsfan]

I have nothing much to contribute to this thread except my fervent hope that O'Neill gets raped by a herd of rhinoceroses.

[Villa'Zawg]

I don't think it is strange that I back up my opinion with facts, I think it strange when people hold a firm opinion that is at odds with the facts.

And it isn't a question of what suits, it is a question of what authoritative and comparable data is available. Feel free to let me know where we can get comprehensive data on transfer spending.

You say other clubs spent more than us then say you can't prove it. That, by your own admission, is a fact.

I say that Spurs and Man City spent more than us.

I've previously posted the Spurs figures on here, taken from their annual accounts reports at http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/investor/investor_annual_report.html. I haven't bothered attempting to find a definitive source for the Man City spending figures because I don't think anyone doubts that they have spent more.

[Shrek]

Who gives a fuck about spurs when talking about MON, it's depressing, they have 3 world class players and we have there reserve right back on loan.

Both clubs have sold there best players carrick and Berbatov, Barry and Milner.

We are no where near them because of Martin Oneil the prick, not because they have spent a little bit more than us. I just can't see how you can argue against that.

[TheSandman]

Another ten pages.