Gerard Houllier

[Toronto Villa]

Robbie Savage, I know a former blues player and ex MON player, waxed lyrical about MON and stuck the knife into GH, referring to our midfield as being a Championship midfield.

Proves what a fucking thick Bellend his is as they are players brought by MON

I heard the rant that Gobby S had re MON and it made my blood boil that there was such a one-sided view being expressed on national radio.
However, that's the way it is: football "is all about opinions" [cliche # 357, from the football lexicon of cliches]. The only way to deal with it is for GH to come out and prove them all wrong by getting the team on a run of victories.

Whilst I agree with what you're saying, and the fact that Savage is a tool, they're just doing their job. Say something controversial or have a dig at someone, and you guarantee yourself callers, and that's what they need.

for every Savage there's a Collymore. I'll listen to Collymore, but I have no doubt whatsoever that many people think he's a cock.

[eastie]

Of course it was basically mons team - houllier hasn't had a chance to bring his own players in yet- much better performance though than o neill got out them against Chelsea last April- give him time to build a team and style of play and we will be fine.

O neill had 4 yrs and the quality of football under him was very poor , already we are seeing signs of better football under houllier!

[taylorsworkrate]

Of course it was basically mons team - houllier hasn't had a chance to bring his own players in yet- much better performance though than o neill got out them against Chelsea last April- give him time to build a team and style of play and we will be fine.

O neill had 4 yrs and the quality of football under him was very poor , already we are seeing signs of better football under houllier!

In fairness we never had a serious chance of relegation under MON though.

[Shrek]

Houllier has apparently said he will pay the £25k fine for all the yellow cards, because the players acted under his instruction.

Well done gerrard, but I'd ask Randy too make an official complaint about Lee Mason.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Of course it was basically mons team - houllier hasn't had a chance to bring his own players in yet- much better performance though than o neill got out them against Chelsea last April- give him time to build a team and style of play and we will be fine.

O neill had 4 yrs and the quality of football under him was very poor , already we are seeing signs of better football under houllier!

To compare all of our performances under MON with the Chelsea game last March is very unfair. One thing yesterday did stand out for me though was Carlos' performance at right back. He was always looking for the pass rather than hoofing it down the line. Yesterday for me was probably his best performance in that position.

[Risso]

I agree Mark, there was one cross in particular that was especially good.

[Clampy]

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Of course it was basically mons team - houllier hasn't had a chance to bring his own players in yet- much better performance though than o neill got out them against Chelsea last April- give him time to build a team and style of play and we will be fine.

O neill had 4 yrs and the quality of football under him was very poor , already we are seeing signs of better football under houllier!

Can't you post something positive about yesterday's performance without  bringing up the previous manager?

[eastie]

Clampy I've posted plenty of positives about yesterdays performance- too many on here are unwilling to give houllier a crack and always bigging up o neill- I'm saying it was nice to see us go to Chelsea and play some decent stuff- I was very impressed with the display and also the 2 centre backs playing at right back- both Clark and cuellar looked better than our current full backs.

It was a huge result and performance and now we need to follow up against sunderland- there are brighter days ahead and I cannot fault one player yesterday- nice to see dunne back to his best too and well done to everyone involved!

Ridiculous referreeing to book so many players in a game that never merited it, he seemed to brandish a card nearly every foul and was appalling!

[TopDeck113]

Let's not get carried away.  Today was a good result, albeit with some of this season's frailties also present for all to see.  It is now all about how we kick-on from here, or not as the case may be.  It will be only then that we'll be able to identify as to whether today really was a turning point in Houllier's reign.

the only people getting carried away were those like yourself who were demanding 'evidence' to how we were going to avoid relegation,
even if we had of lost yesterday i still think the team are good enough to avoid going down,
i think those that were coming on here saying we were definitley down if we stuck with Houllier were the ones getting carried away.

maybe they still think that,
 but having said that you were one of those who were calling for a shred of evidence, and i think yesterday was a performance that gave you a little of that,
doesnt mean we cant go down, but does show us that Houllier isnt the complete numtey people had him down as

I'm glad that some evidence can now be presented for the case against relegation.  Just a pity that 48 hours ago it wasn't so readily available and we simply had to rely on far too many people saying: we won't go down. Period.  When what was put in front of us as the case for the prosecution was a club in free-fall.

As I said previously, yesterday was a much better performance and a good result, better than most of us would have expected, but let's not get carried away.  Chelsea are also in a woeful run of form.   

We had a week of the self-congratulation after the last good performance: the match when we failed to hold on to a two goal lead against Man Utd.  What then followed was one win and five defeats in the course of which we conceded sixteen goals and served up some pretty gutless displays.

If yesterday's result is to mean anything with regard to our prospects for the remainder of this season then our next six league games need to yield a minimum of three wins.

[Dave]

Clampy I've posted plenty of positives about yesterdays performance- too many on here are unwilling to give houllier a crack and always bigging up o neill- I'm saying it was nice to see us go to Chelsea and play some decent stuff- I was very impressed with the display and also the 2 centre backs playing at right back- both Clark and cuellar looked better than our current full backs.

Yes, I seem to remember that you were a big fan of playing centre-backs at full-back under the previous manager.

A good tactic, just as long as it's not O'Neill doing it eh?

[Shrek]

Clampy I've posted plenty of positives about yesterdays performance- too many on here are unwilling to give houllier a crack and always bigging up o neill- I'm saying it was nice to see us go to Chelsea and play some decent stuff- I was very impressed with the display and also the 2 centre backs playing at right back- both Clark and cuellar looked better than our current full backs.

Yes, I seem to remember that you were a big fan of playing centre-backs at full-back under the previous manager.

A good tactic, just as long as it's not O'Neill doing it eh?

Too be fair Dave, you are actually forgetting what we complained about under Martin.

We agreed to Cuellar at RB against teams like Stoke and Chelsea, it was teams like Sunderland and wolves we wanted a proper full back with better distribution,

Martin was in hindsight a good manager who would be a great manager if he would have used his squad abit more and was abit more tactically aware. He had one way of playing no matter what the opposition.

[eastie]

Yes dave , I was against playing cuellar at right back last season when luke young was available, but cuellar seemed much better on the ball yesterday and impressed me , I still think he's a better centre half but he did look a better option than lichaj, and Clark looked a much better option than warnock- I would be happy with them to continue at full back on those displays.

I fully appreciate the job martin did for us as manager but I felt he had taken us as far as he could and it was time for a change- I'm happy with the football houllier is trying to play but I accept and thank martin for some of the many good things he did during his time here.I am not an o neill hater but equally I would not want him back .

[pauliewalnuts]

Of course it was basically mons team - houllier hasn't had a chance to bring his own players in yet- much better performance though than o neill got out them against Chelsea last April- give him time to build a team and style of play and we will be fine.

O neill had 4 yrs and the quality of football under him was very poor , already we are seeing signs of better football under houllier!

In fairness we never had a serious chance of relegation under MON though.

Really?

April 1st, 2007

15    Aston Villa              p 30 34 pts   
16    Wigan Athletic     p 31 33 pts   
17    Sheffield United      p 31 31 pts      
18    Charlton Athletic  p 31 30 pts
19    West Ham United p 31 26 pts      
20    Watford                p 31 20 pts

Now, I'm not saying that we were seriously going to go down at that point, but if you accept some of the "OMG, we are certain to go down!!" hysteria of this week as justified, then you have to ask yourself how people would be feeling if, with 6 weeks of the season left, we were 15th and 4 points off a relegation place.

If you reckon we're seriously threatened by relegation now, then by the same measure, we were then too.

[JUAN PABLO]

Clampy I've posted plenty of positives about yesterdays performance- too many on here are unwilling to give houllier a crack and always bigging up o neill- I'm saying it was nice to see us go to Chelsea and play some decent stuff- I was very impressed with the display and also the 2 centre backs playing at right back- both Clark and cuellar looked better than our current full backs.

Yes, I seem to remember that you were a big fan of playing centre-backs at full-back under the previous manager.

A good tactic, just as long as it's not O'Neill doing it eh?

Too be fair Dave, you are actually forgetting what we complained about under Martin.

We agreed to Cuellar at RB against teams like Stoke and Chelsea, it was teams like Sunderland and wolves we wanted a proper full back with better distribution,

Martin was in hindsight a good manager who would be a great manager if he would have used his squad abit more and was abit more tactically aware. He had one way of playing no matter what the opposition.

spot on Shrek, hows Donkey?

[Toronto Villa]

Of course it was basically mons team - houllier hasn't had a chance to bring his own players in yet- much better performance though than o neill got out them against Chelsea last April- give him time to build a team and style of play and we will be fine.

O neill had 4 yrs and the quality of football under him was very poor , already we are seeing signs of better football under houllier!

In fairness we never had a serious chance of relegation under MON though.

Really?

April 1st, 2007

15    Aston Villa              p 30 34 pts   
16    Wigan Athletic     p 31 33 pts   
17    Sheffield United      p 31 31 pts      
18    Charlton Athletic  p 31 30 pts
19    West Ham United p 31 26 pts      
20    Watford                p 31 20 pts

Now, I'm not saying that we were seriously going to go down at that point, but if you accept some of the "OMG, we are certain to go down!!" hysteria of this week as justified, then you have to ask yourself how people would be feeling if, with 6 weeks of the season left, we were 15th and 4 points off a relegation place.

If you reckon we're seriously threatened by relegation now, then by the same measure, we were then too.

Can you imagine what this place would be like if we were in this position with a few weeks to go? I dread to think of the utter carnage and white flag waving. We finished in 11th that season if my memory serves correctly. So much will change between now and the end of the season, and aside from the top 4 not one team from 5th through 20th has shown a real ability to put a good sequence of results together.