Quote from: toronto villa on December 30, 2010, 07:26:23 PMQuote from: Willie Anderson-14 Goal Difference worst in the premier, how many stats do you want?.In my opinion GH was a bad appointment(from the looks of the poll I'm not in the minority by some margin). I was however prepared to give him time, I now fear to give him anymore will decimate the squad(a la Graham Turner) he will bring in foreign youngsters which will displace our own very good homegrown players. So when we get relegated at the end of the season we will have less money with a shitload of disgruntled foreigners we have to ship out when GH finally gets the bullet.Get rid of NOW let the new guy spend whatever transfer kitty we have & hopefully we will be satified with sixth from bottom at the end of the seasonyou've given two stats and 7 of those goals were in two games that Houllier wasn't a part of.And who is out there, that would either ditch his current employer on the eve of the transfer window, or is free that will galvanzie the club, know what it needs and bring in suitable talent to change our current position.tick, tick, tick ... waits for Jol's name to be thrown out or the newest poster boy Coyle, but privately fears he'll say AllardyceAgain how many stats do you want? Stats can be used anyway you want to prove or disprove a point of view the table doesn't lie, its the manner of our defeats, the dejectedness in the playing squad that worry me the most.Who do I want? Anyone but Houllier! Please God his time is at an end & we will have a new man in by the Sunderland game.
Quote from: Willie Anderson-14 Goal Difference worst in the premier, how many stats do you want?.In my opinion GH was a bad appointment(from the looks of the poll I'm not in the minority by some margin). I was however prepared to give him time, I now fear to give him anymore will decimate the squad(a la Graham Turner) he will bring in foreign youngsters which will displace our own very good homegrown players. So when we get relegated at the end of the season we will have less money with a shitload of disgruntled foreigners we have to ship out when GH finally gets the bullet.Get rid of NOW let the new guy spend whatever transfer kitty we have & hopefully we will be satified with sixth from bottom at the end of the seasonyou've given two stats and 7 of those goals were in two games that Houllier wasn't a part of.And who is out there, that would either ditch his current employer on the eve of the transfer window, or is free that will galvanzie the club, know what it needs and bring in suitable talent to change our current position.tick, tick, tick ... waits for Jol's name to be thrown out or the newest poster boy Coyle, but privately fears he'll say Allardyce
-14 Goal Difference worst in the premier, how many stats do you want?.In my opinion GH was a bad appointment(from the looks of the poll I'm not in the minority by some margin). I was however prepared to give him time, I now fear to give him anymore will decimate the squad(a la Graham Turner) he will bring in foreign youngsters which will displace our own very good homegrown players. So when we get relegated at the end of the season we will have less money with a shitload of disgruntled foreigners we have to ship out when GH finally gets the bullet.Get rid of NOW let the new guy spend whatever transfer kitty we have & hopefully we will be satified with sixth from bottom at the end of the season
Quote from: Willie Anderson on December 30, 2010, 07:40:08 PMWho do I want? Anyone but Houllier! Please God his time is at an end & we will have a new man in by the Sunderland game.Smashing. I think Dowie's available. Curbishley and Megson are probably at a loose end as well. We could probably tempt Gregory back from Israel as well.Shame Newcastle already snapped up Pardew.I'm guessing you didn't actually mean 'anybody'?
Who do I want? Anyone but Houllier! Please God his time is at an end & we will have a new man in by the Sunderland game.
Quote from: toronto villa on December 30, 2010, 07:33:42 PMQuote from: clampy on December 30, 2010, 07:31:14 PMIt's the motivational side of GH that worries me, or lack of it. Liverpool was a good case in point. He could'nt even motivate the players against a side without Gerrard and Torres and instead we found ourselves 2 goals down inside 10 mins. I agree to a point, but why do professionals need motivation, especially at this level, at the start of a game. These aren't kids. These are grown men paid handsomely to do a job.I agree entirely, but if we are dragged into a relegation scrap, we need someone who's going to get 100% out of his players and i'm just not sure if GH is capable of it.
Quote from: clampy on December 30, 2010, 07:31:14 PMIt's the motivational side of GH that worries me, or lack of it. Liverpool was a good case in point. He could'nt even motivate the players against a side without Gerrard and Torres and instead we found ourselves 2 goals down inside 10 mins. I agree to a point, but why do professionals need motivation, especially at this level, at the start of a game. These aren't kids. These are grown men paid handsomely to do a job.
It's the motivational side of GH that worries me, or lack of it. Liverpool was a good case in point. He could'nt even motivate the players against a side without Gerrard and Torres and instead we found ourselves 2 goals down inside 10 mins.
Quote from: Dave on December 30, 2010, 07:46:23 PMQuote from: Willie Anderson on December 30, 2010, 07:40:08 PMWho do I want? Anyone but Houllier! Please God his time is at an end & we will have a new man in by the Sunderland game.Smashing. I think Dowie's available. Curbishley and Megson are probably at a loose end as well. We could probably tempt Gregory back from Israel as well.Shame Newcastle already snapped up Pardew.I'm guessing you didn't actually mean 'anybody'?dont forget Big Sam, Strachan, Ferguson jrn and Phil Brown all available ASAP
Quote from: clampy on December 30, 2010, 07:41:35 PMQuote from: toronto villa on December 30, 2010, 07:33:42 PMQuote from: clampy on December 30, 2010, 07:31:14 PMIt's the motivational side of GH that worries me, or lack of it. Liverpool was a good case in point. He could'nt even motivate the players against a side without Gerrard and Torres and instead we found ourselves 2 goals down inside 10 mins. I agree to a point, but why do professionals need motivation, especially at this level, at the start of a game. These aren't kids. These are grown men paid handsomely to do a job.I agree entirely, but if we are dragged into a relegation scrap, we need someone who's going to get 100% out of his players and i'm just not sure if GH is capable of it. Exactly, I am convinced he has lost the dressing room, only the senior players have made their displeasure known & I am afraid he will throw the baby out with the bathwater in an attempt to exert his authority
If he does go and I don't think he will be sacked, how about Martin Jol?
Quote from: Willie Anderson on December 30, 2010, 07:51:14 PMQuote from: clampy on December 30, 2010, 07:41:35 PMQuote from: toronto villa on December 30, 2010, 07:33:42 PMQuote from: clampy on December 30, 2010, 07:31:14 PMIt's the motivational side of GH that worries me, or lack of it. Liverpool was a good case in point. He could'nt even motivate the players against a side without Gerrard and Torres and instead we found ourselves 2 goals down inside 10 mins. I agree to a point, but why do professionals need motivation, especially at this level, at the start of a game. These aren't kids. These are grown men paid handsomely to do a job.I agree entirely, but if we are dragged into a relegation scrap, we need someone who's going to get 100% out of his players and i'm just not sure if GH is capable of it. Exactly, I am convinced he has lost the dressing room, only the senior players have made their displeasure known & I am afraid he will throw the baby out with the bathwater in an attempt to exert his authoritywhich "senior" players? If you're referring to Carew or Dunne then they don't represent the majority. I don't even consider Ireland as Villa player. I've not heard Downing, Petrov, Ash, Gabby or Heskey say anything bad about him. Have you?
Quote from: toronto villa on December 30, 2010, 07:53:50 PMQuote from: Willie Anderson on December 30, 2010, 07:51:14 PMQuote from: clampy on December 30, 2010, 07:41:35 PMQuote from: toronto villa on December 30, 2010, 07:33:42 PMQuote from: clampy on December 30, 2010, 07:31:14 PMIt's the motivational side of GH that worries me, or lack of it. Liverpool was a good case in point. He could'nt even motivate the players against a side without Gerrard and Torres and instead we found ourselves 2 goals down inside 10 mins. I agree to a point, but why do professionals need motivation, especially at this level, at the start of a game. These aren't kids. These are grown men paid handsomely to do a job.I agree entirely, but if we are dragged into a relegation scrap, we need someone who's going to get 100% out of his players and i'm just not sure if GH is capable of it. Exactly, I am convinced he has lost the dressing room, only the senior players have made their displeasure known & I am afraid he will throw the baby out with the bathwater in an attempt to exert his authoritywhich "senior" players? If you're referring to Carew or Dunne then they don't represent the majority. I don't even consider Ireland as Villa player. I've not heard Downing, Petrov, Ash, Gabby or Heskey say anything bad about him. Have you?Yes