Gerard Houllier

[Clampy]

The window hasn't began yet Tarzan so we dint know who will be coming in- maybe the young French lad is one of several signings so we cannot judge him on that till jan 31st.

As for the players clampy, houllier is trying to play a totally different style of passing football and the team o neill built played very differently to pass and move.the players he inherited are not good enough for the style houllier wants to play.

It's like allardyce taking over a team like arsenal and telling them from now on it's going to be all up and under football- teams are built to play a certain way and o neill and houllier are opposites in style!

Yes i realise GH want's to change our style, but we still should'nt be 1 point off relegation. Besides yesterday you suggested it was Gary Mac who might be the problem, today it's the players. Which is it?

[imull43]

You have to give a new manager time, your right he is trying to change the way we play, we have to get behind him and the players otherwise we will impload.

Changing the manager now will only bring more unrest and uncertanty

[eastie]

Arsene wenger made a career out of buying young foreign talent - let's hope GED has the same results in January- we cannot judge him on his deals yet as the window hasn't even began- I'm sure he will have some experience signings lined up as well as youth- it is not ideal dealing in January but we simply have to get players in even if it means paying over the odds.

[E I Adio]

They are not, but like Gareth Bale and James Milner , i.e the kinds of players who would make an impact at such an early age our probably out of our price bracket. Maybe not, but can anyone think of an example of, say , an U21 player who had an immediate impact , especially when coming from abroad, that wasn't already a superstar?

I tend to agree, but I meant it was possible to bring in experienced players who could make an immediate impact as well as young potential stars. In fact I would be surprised if that did not happen.

[Bosco81]

The window hasn't began yet Tarzan so we dint know who will be coming in- maybe the young French lad is one of several signings so we cannot judge him on that till jan 31st.

As for the players clampy, houllier is trying to play a totally different style of passing football and the team o neill built played very differently to pass and move.the players he inherited are not good enough for the style houllier wants to play.

It's like allardyce taking over a team like arsenal and telling them from now on it's going to be all up and under football- teams are built to play a certain way and o neill and houllier are opposites in style!

We had a style of play under MON, I've yet to see one under Houllier.

Which players can't play this "new brand" of football we are supposedly playing.

[Pete3206]

We have a playing style known as the 'roll over and die' formation.

[eastie]

There are many reasons we are where we are - Gary mac is one of them and I don't think he's the man for the job- we are where we are for a collection of reasons, players coaching staff and manager can all take part of the blame - it's not just one reason!

Defensively we are inept, the distribution is poor and it is quite clear who is and isn't suited to the passing game, midfield we have had injuries but have lacked flair and the strikers do not convert enough chances., add to that a keeper well past his prime and there are problems all over the field- it is a huge rebuilding job!

[Willie Anderson]

Well Owen Coyle has done decent job in the few months he has been at Bolton and changed their style of football.

Owen Coyle has the respect of his players, GH hasn't, in fact he has alienated much of the squad. I don't like him. I don't trust him. I want him out now before he does anymore damage, lets face it at his age he was only going to be a short term manager anyway. Lerner has to hold up his hands admit it was a mistake & ship him back to France where he can do more damage with our blessing.

[cdward]

We have a playing style known as the 'roll over and die' formation.

 the new French players will fit right in then , i wonder what Didier Six is doing at the moment?

[Willie Anderson]

You have to give a new manager time, your right he is trying to change the way we play, we have to get behind him and the players otherwise we will impload.

Changing the manager now will only bring more unrest and uncertanty

Au contraire we will have the certainty that GH will not be in charge & quell the unrest in the squad.

[Villa'Zawg]

There are many reasons we are where we are - Gary mac is one of them and I don't think he's the man for the job- we are where we are for a collection of reasons, players coaching staff and manager can all take part of the blame - it's not just one reason!

Yes but what about Randy and Sid? What proportion of the blame are you assigning to them and is it more or less than McAllister?

[CorkVilla]

I remember seeing a highlights package of a game we were involved in on the news about a year ago. The commentator described one of our goals as a 'typical Aston Villa goal'...and it was not meant in a derogatory way. I remember being kind of shocked when I heard it as usually that type of statement is reserved for Arsenal or the like.

Whatever you may say about the way we played under O'Neill, we had a definative style, one which was, to a point, effective and which distinguished us from other teams in the league. Now we are yet another rag-taggle bunch of kids and has-beens trying to play a brand of football which is unfortunately beyond us.

Houllier was a terrible, terrible appointment. We all knew it, most of the pundits knew, but the board did not.

[Clampy]

The window hasn't began yet Tarzan so we dint know who will be coming in- maybe the young French lad is one of several signings so we cannot judge him on that till jan 31st.

As for the players clampy, houllier is trying to play a totally different style of passing football and the team o neill built played very differently to pass and move.the players he inherited are not good enough for the style houllier wants to play.

It's like allardyce taking over a team like arsenal and telling them from now on it's going to be all up and under football- teams are built to play a certain way and o neill and houllier are opposites in style!

We had a style of play under MON, I've yet to see one under Houllier.

Which players can't play this "new brand" of football we are supposedly playing.

Quite. You'd think GH had taken over at Hereford, not Aston Villa.

[MarkM]

Houllier was a terrible, terrible appointment. We all knew it, most of the pundits knew, but the board did not.

lets hope they do now before its to late

[eastie]

Owen coyle has impressed me immensely in his style of play and his man management looks very good- if and when we are in the Market for a new manager I'd hope that owen coyle figures highly on the list.

Graham alexanders parents live next door to me and graham was down last week- he said coyle was the best manager he has known in his career by a mile and the players would run through a brick wall for him- definately one for the future!