Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[Bosco81]

If Petrov and NRC had started it still wouldn't alter Warnock being caught out week in and week out. People have blamed Collins for the first goal, but the danger arose from that Scouse tit being yet again, woefully out of position.

Tchoi battered him on the 11th too.

Warnock wasn't out of position for the first goal, he was exactly where a full back should be, it was a great ball by Modric, Hutton shanked the cross but Warnock or Collins could have cut the cross out.

[hawkeye]

So focusing on a few good performances individually hides the fact that as a team we were totaly clueless

[Tony]

We weren't that bad, Gabby did ok, he made the keeper work, but defensively we've been a shower of shit all season and whilst that carries on, we've got big problems, we are leaking goals.

[Holtenderinthesky]

We are shit under GH, he has fuck all idea and needs to leave now

so let's say you're Randy. Option 1 - You sack Allardyce. I don't think we are going down under Houllier, and I don't think we would under Allardyce so mission accomplished there. January rolls around and we give Big Sam 10-15m to spend on a bunch of lumpers to ensure we are playing PL football next year. By next August we have another 10-15m worth of additional lumpers, and low and behold we spend the next few years finishing between 8th and 12th every year with football from the dark ages.

Or , Option 2 - you give GH some time to get in the type of players that in the long run will massively benefit the club and play attractive football, even if it feels as though, right now, the sky is caving in?

I'm choosing option 2

Option 2 for me, too.

Option 1.  We bring in a new manager and stay up.

Option 2.  We get relegated under Houllier.

Still want option 2?

[dave.woodhall]

And who's this new manager going to be?

[avfcpg]

And who's this new manager going to be?

The new scapegoat

[Legion]

We won't be relegated under Houllier.

[ronshirt]

And who's this new manager going to be?

I think he's going to be better than Houllier.

[Gazza1982]

Option 2 for me too. OK we are all pissed off, a quality striker and we would have won today.We have a great batch of youngsters coming through with Albrighton definately the stand out.Downing has started to prove a good buy at last and GH has the sense to drop Dunne. If we get 25M for Ash then thats good business IMO.
3 quality signings in January and we have a top 6 side again.
Give GH time, he will sort it.

[Toronto Villa]

We are shit under GH, he has fuck all idea and needs to leave now

so let's say you're Randy. Option 1 - You sack Allardyce. I don't think we are going down under Houllier, and I don't think we would under Allardyce so mission accomplished there. January rolls around and we give Big Sam 10-15m to spend on a bunch of lumpers to ensure we are playing PL football next year. By next August we have another 10-15m worth of additional lumpers, and low and behold we spend the next few years finishing between 8th and 12th every year with football from the dark ages.

Or , Option 2 - you give GH some time to get in the type of players that in the long run will massively benefit the club and play attractive football, even if it feels as though, right now, the sky is caving in?

I'm choosing option 2

Option 2 for me, too.

Option 1.  We bring in a new manager and stay up.

Option 2.  We get relegated under Houllier.

Still want option 2?

in your anger you must have missed the bit where I said I am quite sure under GH we're not going down. What makes you think there's some miracle worker out there that beyond this season you'll be glad to say is manager of Aston Villa?

And before anyone suggests Martin Jol, do a bit of research and see where Spurs were when he was fired despite a full pre-season and a number of transfer windows behind him.

[Holtenderinthesky]

We are shit under GH, he has fuck all idea and needs to leave now

so let's say you're Randy. Option 1 - You sack Allardyce. I don't think we are going down under Houllier, and I don't think we would under Allardyce so mission accomplished there. January rolls around and we give Big Sam 10-15m to spend on a bunch of lumpers to ensure we are playing PL football next year. By next August we have another 10-15m worth of additional lumpers, and low and behold we spend the next few years finishing between 8th and 12th every year with football from the dark ages.

Or , Option 2 - you give GH some time to get in the type of players that in the long run will massively benefit the club and play attractive football, even if it feels as though, right now, the sky is caving in?

I'm choosing option 2

Option 2 for me, too.

Option 1.  We bring in a new manager and stay up.

Option 2.  We get relegated under Houllier.

Still want option 2?

in your anger you must have missed the bit where I said I am quite sure under GH we're not going down. What makes you think there's some miracle worker out there that beyond this season you'll be glad to say is manager of Aston Villa?

And before anyone suggests Martin Jol, do a bit of research and see where Spurs were when he was fired despite a full pre-season and a number of transfer windows behind him.

Yes but my point is that there were two options in that post and I didn't agree that the things you pointed out in option 1 would happen but still it was that or option 2.  We may not go down under Houllier but we certainly won't be top half and that for me is unacceptable.  He is a terrible, terrible manager imo.

[Risso]

And who's this new manager going to be?

I think he's going to be better than Houllier.

Look at Spurs after Jol, they appointed the wrong replacement in Ramos, realised their mistake, got rid, and are now reaping the rewards.

[ronshirt]

And who's this new manager going to be?

I think he's going to be better than Houllier.

Look at Spurs after Jol, they appointed the wrong replacement in Ramos, realised their mistake, got rid, and are now reaping the rewards.

Lordy Lord if Risso and I agree about something then surely The Rapture cannot be far away.

[villa1]

Spurs did exactly what Blues and Liverpool did against us. Sat back and let us have possession, knowing we have no idea as to how to break them down, then make the most of their possession.

We had a lot of possession around their box, in the attacking third if you like, but no one who was willing to take responsibilty, or the risk, of a shot or through ball. Instead we kept playing square, left to right, until we put a cross in, which was a waste of time as we had no height in the box.

That said, I thought Lichaj did well against Bale, Delph looked enthusistic and wanted the ball and Allbrighton was relatively quiet tonight.

A small group of fan's chanting MON's name after their second and also some chanting 'sheep shagger' at Bale. obviously overlooked the fact that our captain tonight was Welsh too. I despair sometimes.

[Legion]

I was more pissed off at those who booed Pires when he came on to the pitch.