Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[Muscle-Dolphin]

We got "outmuscled" in the box.  Albrighton's dekes were really good - he is becoming my favourite Villa player (as is Bannan).  I find that Downing takes too long to strike.  He needs to work on his "one timers".  Does anyone know what "Redclap" said to Pires to get Pires so pissed off?"

[django]

Worryingly, i didn't think most players performed that badly. Unfortunately we are simply toothless. We are a team whose greatest strength probably lies in our ability to put crosses in from wide but who has no one in the middle trying to get on the end of them when they arrive.

What was worrying today was that, although we may have been out thought, possibly should have started with an extra player in midfield or whatever, we actually ended up with the extra player and saw a lot of the ball but still looked so poor in front of goal.

Gabby was poor and under par but otherwise those were the levels of performance that i would expect from those players. Ok, all able enough 6/10 type performers and performances but lacking any standout quality and not good enough collectively against anyone but the poorest teams.

GH is going to have to do a lot of good work in the transfer market and hope that any new arrivals hit the ground running because by the time they arrive i suspect the pressure of a survival battle will be crippling. I hope our current playing squad has more character than recent performances suggest.

[ROBBO]

Where was Ashley Young today? never saw an injury report. lichaj played well, Delf looks as if he will be a player, once Heskey went off we were toothless up front. These next few weeks will tell us more about Lerners committment than anything else, he has had a lot of money come in and didn't have to spend a penny in the summer.

[KevinGage]

How does this points tally at this stage of the season compare to other struggling campaigns?

In particular, 1990/91 1994/95 2002/03 and 2005/06.

I have a feeling that it's lower than all of them.

We might scratch out a few victories here and there against worse teams than us in the second part of the season, but I can't see us putting a sustained run of form together. Not with this current manager and this personnel. His dealings in Jan will need to be inspired to lift the gloom.

Thankfully there are quite a few worse teams than us this year, and staying up might require a lower points total than previous seasons. But at the moment if feels like we're aimlessly drifting, with a manager not particularly bothered.

[richardhubbard]

We are shit under GH, he has fuck all idea and needs to leave now

[ronshirt]

Something is really not very right. When we used to wonder about Mon's replacement the mention of Allardyce would've  been hooted at. I think we are in for interesting things.

[Ads]

Warnock is a huge weak link in the side. He got caught out again today with him being to narrow and way out of position, giving Hutton all the time in the world.

We're still in urgent need of a goal scorer and dominating central midfielder. Chalk up a left back as well.

[avfcpg]

Where was Ashley Young today? never saw an injury report. lichaj played well, Delf looks as if he will be a player, once Heskey went off we were toothless up front. These next few weeks will tell us more about Lerners committment than anything else, he has had a lot of money come in and didn't have to spend a penny in the summer.

A Young was injured...Knee and Ankle problems according to the press all last week...

[ROBBO]

I agree with django i didn't think any particular player played that badly it was a simply a lack of class. The Fonz is an enigma he can waltz past defenders yet he will never have the presence to be the key forward. I hope Houllier already has players lined up.

[Irreverent ad]

I think we really missed Heskey after he went off. I thought he was playing well before hand. The 'penalty', winning the header to send Gabby one-on-one and his all round play.

[Greg N'Ash]

Depressing but what can he do? the squad is paper thin with us relying on  kids. If there was some midfield general not being picked to come in for the kids perhaps you could point the finger but there's no-one. We desperately need someone in there now but hopefully petrov's return will steady things, hogg, well it was men versus boys

[Toronto Villa]

We are shit under GH, he has fuck all idea and needs to leave now

so let's say you're Randy. Option 1 - You sack GH and bring in Allardyce. I don't think we are going down under Houllier, and I don't think we would under Allardyce so mission accomplished there. January rolls around and we give Big Sam 10-15m to spend on a bunch of lumpers to ensure we are playing PL football next year. By next August we have another 10-15m worth of additional lumpers, and low and behold we spend the next few years finishing between 8th and 12th every year with football from the dark ages.

Or , Option 2 - you give GH some time to get in the type of players that in the long run will massively benefit the club and play attractive football, even if it feels as though, right now, the sky is caving in?

I'm choosing option 2

[littlevillain]

spurs fan told me after the game" Don't worry mate, you're too good to go down"
after dispatching a few insults his way and then calming down for a minute I started to remember the fantastics times I had following the villa in the old 2nd and third divisions and with a tremendous up and coming young team maybe it could be a great new era?

[Ads]

No, it would be fucking disastrous.

But we're not going down anyway.

[sfx412]

there is no way that shower of shite can be blamed on a bloke who took over a few months back.
Until you ask why Delph and no Coker, because hes made it clear hes leaving ? The blokes first competitive game for 12 months is to start a game. Lunacy.
I appreciate we are desperate but Gabby starting, why ?
All that said yet again Ged puts out a much changed side again what hope have we until we put out the same or near the same team for several games.
None.
Wrong mentality and 2 demoralising defeats likely to come next. Time for RL to prove the media and many fans wrong.
If he doesn't Houllier could be managing a relegation side.